On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:10 PM tferic@swissonline.ch <tferic@swissonline.ch> wrote:

Cloning VM's is a core feature of virtualization.

I remember having cloned VM's back in the 90's with the free VMware version 0.9.

My main use case ever since is cloning fully configured production servers into a testservers, for isolated testing.

Why would a hypervisor not offer cloning, when it is possible and useful?

regards, Toni


(Added users@ovirt.org back)

Sure, it can be handy in some cases - that's why we've implemented it in oVirt and enhance it in 4.4.3 (for running VMs).
But I wouldn't expect it to be commonly used via the user portal, that's why I am interested in the use-case.
 


On 10.11.20 16:22, Arik Hadas wrote:


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi Arik,

El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi Sharon,

Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it.

Regards,

Nico

  [1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389

El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,

This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3).
It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.

Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues
and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)

Thanks!
Sharon

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi,

We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses
the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a
VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case,
this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.

Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from template(s)?
 

Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very welcome having back the clone option.

Thanks Nicolás.
I'd say that even for the IT-related students it may make more sense to provision VMs from templates instead of cloning VMs - 
so you want them to deploy VMs from scratch, which means starting with a VM that is based on the blank template, add disk(s) and other devices, install and configure the guest and such; and then the students would use clone-VM to duplicate the VM they just prepared, right?
Why would you want them to clone the VM rather than creating a template out of this VM and provision further VMs from that template with thin-provisioned disks?
 

Regards,

Nico


Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to
open a RFE?

Thank you.

Regards,

Nico
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