what does `lvs -a` show ?

On May 4, 2017 21:50, "Beckman, Daniel" <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com> wrote:

Hi Yuval,

 

All three of those packages (ovirt-node-ng-image-update, ovirt-node-ng-image, ovirt-release41) were already installed. So I ran a ‘yum remove’ on all of them, removed everything from /etc/yum.repos.d, installed the release RPM, then installed the other two packages. Here’s the installation:

 

======================================================================================================================================================================================================

Package                                                   Arch                                  Version                                               Repository                                Size

======================================================================================================================================================================================================

Installing:

ovirt-node-ng-image-update                                noarch                                4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos                                  ovirt-4.1                                3.8 k

Installing for dependencies:

ovirt-node-ng-image                                       noarch                                4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos                                  ovirt-4.1                                526 M

 

Transaction Summary

======================================================================================================================================================================================================

Install  1 Package (+1 Dependent package)

 

Total download size: 526 M

Installed size: 526 M

Is this ok [y/d/N]: y

Downloading packages:

(1/2): ovirt-node-ng-image-update-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch.rpm                                                                                                              | 3.8 kB  00:00:00    

(2/2): ovirt-node-ng-image-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch.rpm                                                                                                                     | 526 MB  00:01:55    

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total                                                                                                                                                                 4.6 MB/s | 526 MB  00:01:55    

Running transaction check

Running transaction test

Transaction test succeeded

Running transaction

  Installing : ovirt-node-ng-image-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                                                                                                                                    1/2

  Installing : ovirt-node-ng-image-update-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                                                                                                                             2/2

mount: special device /dev/onn_labvmhostt05/ovirt-node-ng-4.1.1.1-0.20170406.0+1 does not exist

rm: cannot remove ‘/tmp/tmp.uEAD6kCtlR/usr/share/imgbased/*image-update*.rpm’: No such file or directory

umount: /tmp/tmp.uEAD6kCtlR: not mounted

  Verifying  : ovirt-node-ng-image-update-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                                                                                                                             1/2

  Verifying  : ovirt-node-ng-image-4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                                                                                                                                    2/2

 

Installed:

  ovirt-node-ng-image-update.noarch 0:4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos                                                                                                                                           

 

Dependency Installed:

  ovirt-node-ng-image.noarch 0:4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos                                                                                                                                                   

 

Complete!

 

Also, note output of ‘nodectl check’:

[root@labvmhostt05 yum.repos.d]# nodectl check

Status: FAILED

Bootloader ... FAILED - It looks like there are no valid bootloader entries. Please ensure this is fixed before rebooting.

  Layer boot entries ... FAILED - No bootloader entries which point to imgbased layers

  Valid boot entries ... FAILED - No valid boot entries for imgbased layers or non-imgbased layers

Mount points ... OK

  Separate /var ... OK

  Discard is used ... OK

Basic storage ... OK

  Initialized VG ... OK

  Initialized Thin Pool ... OK

  Initialized LVs ... OK

Thin storage ... OK

  Checking available space in thinpool ... OK

  Checking thinpool auto-extend ... OK

vdsmd ... OK

 

I’ll attach the /tmp/imgbased.log file.

 

Thanks,

Daniel

 

From: Yuval Turgeman <yuvalt@redhat.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:23 PM
To: "Beckman, Daniel" <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com>
Cc: "users@ovirt.org" <users@ovirt.org>, Yedidyah Bar David <didi@redhat.com>, "sbonazzo@redhat.com" <sbonazzo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Upgrade 4.0.6 to 4.1.1 -- How to Update oVirt Node (4.x) Hosts?

 

Hi, you can try the following:

 

1.  Make sure you have a /etc/iscsi/initiatorname.iscsi file.  If you don't, create an empty one (to avoid a migration bug)

2.  Install the ovirt-release41 rpm (http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release41.rpm)

3.  yum update ovirt-node-ng-image-update

4.  Make sure only 2 rpms are about to be installed (ovirt-node-ng-image-update and ovirt-node-ng-image) ~530M

 

Save /tmp/imgbased.log in case something fails so we could take a look :)

 

Thanks,

Yuval

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Beckman, Daniel <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com> wrote:

I don’t recall doing anything special with the repositories, apart from (recently) adding the oVirt 4.1 repository. These hosts were originally deployed by downloading the oVirt Node 4.0.3 ISO image.

 

How should the repos be setup? Is there an RPM I can download that will install the appropriate repos?

 

Thanks,

Daniel

 

From: Yuval Turgeman <yuvalt@redhat.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:56 PM
To: "Beckman, Daniel" <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com>
Cc: "users@ovirt.org" <users@ovirt.org>, Yedidyah Bar David <didi@redhat.com>, "sbonazzo@redhat.com" <sbonazzo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Upgrade 4.0.6 to 4.1.1 -- How to Update oVirt Node (4.x) Hosts?

 

Looks like your repos are not set up correctly.  oVirt node is an image and the update is a complete image as well, containing a set packages that were tested and known to work well together.  This means that when you yum update your system, a single "ovirt-node-ng-image-update" rpm should be installed instead of a list of packages like you mentioned.  That's probably what messed things up.  How did you configure your repos ?

 

On May 1, 2017 6:15 PM, "Beckman, Daniel" <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com> wrote:

Hello,

I’ve attached the log file for one of the hosts from /var/log/ovirt-engine/host-deploy.

As to the manual update: yes, I ran it after removing the ovirt40 repo and adding ovirt41 repo. Here are the packages it updated:
Updated     cockpit-ovirt-dashboard-0.10.6-1.4.2.el7.centos.noarch              ?
    Update                              0.10.7-0.0.16.el7.centos.noarch             @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install collectd-5.7.0-2.el7.x86_64                                         @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install collectd-disk-5.7.0-2.el7.x86_64                                    @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install collectd-netlink-5.7.0-2.el7.x86_64                                 @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install collectd-virt-5.7.0-2.el7.x86_64                                    @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install collectd-write_http-5.7.0-2.el7.x86_64                              @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install fluentd-0.12.26-2.el7.noarch                                        @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install gdeploy-2.0.1-13.noarch                                             @rnachimu-gdeploy
    Updated     glusterfs-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                       ?
    Update                3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                       @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-api-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                   ?
    Update                    3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                   @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-cli-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                   ?
    Update                    3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                   @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-client-xlators-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                        ?
    Update                               3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                        @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-fuse-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                  ?
    Update                     3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                  @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-geo-replication-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                       ?
    Update                                3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                       @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-libs-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                  ?
    Update                     3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                  @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-rdma-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                  ?
    Update                     3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                  @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     glusterfs-server-3.7.20-1.el7.x86_64                                ?
    Update                       3.8.11-1.el7.x86_64                                @ovirt-4.1-centos-gluster38
    Updated     imgbased-0.8.11-0.201612061451git1b9e081.el7.centos.noarch          ?
    Update               0.9.23-1.el7.centos.noarch                                 @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ioprocess-0.16.1-1.el7.x86_64                                       @?ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Update                0.17.0-1.201611101241.gitb7e353c.el7.centos.x86_64        @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install libtomcrypt-1.17-23.el7.x86_64                                      @ovirt-4.1-epel
    Dep-Install libtommath-0.42.0-4.el7.x86_64                                      @ovirt-4.1-epel
    Dep-Install libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                  @updates
    Updated     mom-0.5.8-1.el7.centos.noarch                                       @?ovirt-4.1
    Update          0.5.9-1.el7.centos.noarch                                       @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install net-snmp-1:5.7.2-24.el7_3.2.x86_64                                  @updates
    Dep-Install net-snmp-agent-libs-1:5.7.2-24.el7_3.2.x86_64                       @updates
    Updated     openvswitch-2.5.0-2.el7.x86_64                                      ?
    Update                  2.7.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64                               @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     otopi-1.5.2-1.el7.centos.noarch                                     ?
    Update            1.6.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                                     @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-host-deploy-1.5.3-1.el7.centos.noarch                         ?
    Update                        1.6.3-1.el7.centos.noarch                         @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-hosted-engine-ha-2.0.6-1.el7.centos.noarch                    ?
    Update                             2.1.0.5-1.el7.centos.noarch                  @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-hosted-engine-setup-2.0.4.1-1.el7.centos.noarch               ?
    Update                                2.1.0.5-1.el7.centos.noarch               @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-imageio-common-0.4.0-1.el7.noarch                             ?
    Update                           1.0.0-1.el7.noarch                             @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Updated     ovirt-imageio-daemon-0.4.0-1.el7.noarch                             ?
    Update                           1.0.0-1.el7.noarch                             @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Updated     ovirt-node-ng-nodectl-4.0.6-0.20170111.0.el7.noarch                 ?
    Update                            4.1.0-0.20170406.0.el7.noarch                 @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-release-host-node-4.0.6.1-1.el7.noarch                        ?
    Update                              4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                 @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-release41-4.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                           @?ovirt-4.1
    Update                      4.1.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                         @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     ovirt-setup-lib-1.0.2-1.el7.centos.noarch                           ?
    Update                      1.1.0-1.el7.centos.noarch                           @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install python-babel-0.9.6-8.el7.noarch                                     @base
    Dep-Install python-dateutil-1.5-7.el7.noarch                                    @base
    Dep-Install python-httplib2-0.9.1-2.el7.noarch                                  @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Updated     python-ioprocess-0.16.1-1.el7.noarch                                @?ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Update                       0.17.0-1.201611101242.gitb7e353c.el7.centos.noarch @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install python-jinja2-2.7.2-2.el7.noarch                                    @base
    Dep-Install python-keyczar-0.71c-2.el7.noarch                                   @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Dep-Install python-markupsafe-0.11-10.el7.x86_64                                @base
    Dep-Install python-setuptools-0.9.8-4.el7.noarch                                @base
    Dep-Install python2-crypto-2.6.1-13.el7.x86_64                                  @ovirt-4.1-epel
    Dep-Install python2-ecdsa-0.13-4.el7.noarch                                     @ovirt-4.1-epel
    Dep-Install python2-paramiko-1.16.1-2.el7.noarch                                @ovirt-4.1-epel
    Dep-Install python2-passlib-1.6.5-1.el7.noarch                                  @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Dep-Install python2-pyasn1-0.1.9-7.el7.noarch                                   @base
    Dep-Install rng-tools-5-8.el7.x86_64                                            @base
    Dep-Install ruby-2.0.0.648-29.el7.x86_64                                        @base
    Dep-Install ruby-irb-2.0.0.648-29.el7.noarch                                    @base
    Dep-Install ruby-libs-2.0.0.648-29.el7.x86_64                                   @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-bigdecimal-1.2.0-29.el7.x86_64                              @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-cool.io-1.2.4-2.el7.x86_64                                  @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-fluent-plugin-rewrite-tag-filter-1.5.5-5.el7.noarch         @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-fluent-plugin-secure-forward-0.4.3-1.el7.noarch             @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-http_parser.rb-0.6.0-1.el7.x86_64                           @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-io-console-0.4.2-29.el7.x86_64                              @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-json-1.7.7-29.el7.x86_64                                    @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-msgpack-0.5.11-1.el7.x86_64                                 @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-proxifier-1.0.3-1.el7.noarch                                @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-psych-2.0.0-29.el7.x86_64                                   @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-rdoc-4.0.0-29.el7.noarch                                    @base
    Dep-Install rubygem-resolve-hostname-0.0.4-1.el7.noarch                         @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-sigdump-0.2.2-1.el7.noarch                                  @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-string-scrub-0.0.5-1.el7.x86_64                             @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-thread_safe-0.3.4-1.el7.noarch                              @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-tzinfo-1.2.2-2.el7.noarch                                   @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-tzinfo-data-1.2014.10-2.el7.noarch                          @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygem-yajl-ruby-1.2.1-1.el7.x86_64                                @centos-opstools-release
    Dep-Install rubygems-2.0.14.1-29.el7.noarch                                     @base
    Dep-Install screen-4.1.0-0.23.20120314git3c2946.el7_2.x86_64                    @base
    Dep-Install sshpass-1.05-5.el7.x86_64                                           @ovirt-centos-ovirt41
    Dep-Install tcpdump-14:4.5.1-3.el7.x86_64                                       @base
    Updated     vdsm-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.x86_64                                    ?
    Update           4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.x86_64                                  @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-api-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                                ?
    Update               4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                              @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-cli-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                                ?
    Update               4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                              @ovirt-4.1
    Dep-Install vdsm-client-4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                           @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-gluster-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                            ?
    Update                   4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                          @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-hook-ethtool-options-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch               ?
    Update                                4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch             @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-hook-fcoe-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                          ?
    Update                     4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                        @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-hook-macspoof-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                      ?
    Update                         4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                    @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-hook-nestedvt-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                      ?
    Update                         4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                    @ovirt-4.1
    Updated     vdsm-hook-openstacknet-4.18.21-1.el7.centos.noarch                  ?
    Update                             4.19.10.1-1.el7.centos.noarch                @ovirt-4.1
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Thanks,
Daniel

On 4/30/17, 12:44 AM, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com> wrote:

    On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Beckman, Daniel
    <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com> wrote:
    > Didi,
    >
    > Thanks for the tip on the utilities – I’ll add that for future upgrades. Since you pointed that out,  I’m reminded that in a previous upgrade (following one of the developer’s suggestions) I had added this:
    > /etc/ovirt-engine/engine.conf.d/99-custom-truststore.conf
    > So I guess that’s why my https certificate was preserved.

    Good.

    >
    > As to the documentation, I did submit a pull request (#923) and ‘JohnMarksRH’ added that along with some additional edits. I’ll move any continuing discussion on that to another thread. And yes, the RHV documentation is excellent and I’ve often turned to it. It’s too bad some of the effort ends up being duplicated. Anyway….
    >
    > Here’s what I did with one of the oVirt nodes:
    > yum -y remove ovirt-release40
    > yum -y install http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release41.rpm
    > cd /etc/yum.repos.d
    > # ls
    > CentOS-Base.repo       CentOS-fasttrack.repo         CentOS-Sources.repo       cockpit-preview-epel-7.repo
    > CentOS-CR.repo         CentOS-fasttrack.repo.rpmnew  CentOS-Vault.repo         ovirt-4.0-dependencies.repo
    > CentOS-Debuginfo.repo  CentOS-Media.repo             CentOS-Vault.repo.rpmnew  ovirt-4.0.repo
    > rm -f ovirt-4.0*
    >
    > After doing that, when I check again in the admin GUI for an upgrade, it shows one available (4.1.1.1). From the GUI I tell it to upgrade, and it runs along with no errors, seems to finish, and then reboots the host.
    >
    > When the host comes back up, it’s still running 4.0.6. When I check again for an available upgrade, it doesn’t see it available. I’m attaching the installation log that is referenced in Events in the GUI.
    >
    > If I go straight into the node and run ‘yum update’ and reboot, then it gets the latest 4.1.x image and the engine detects it as such.

    You mean you do that after the above (removing 4.0 repos, adding 4.1)?

    What packages did it update?

    Please check also time-wise nearby log files for this host in
    /var/log/ovirt-engine/host-deploy and share them.
    'ovirt-host-mgmt*' is the result of checking for updates from the admin web ui.

    > But of course that’s not the ideal method. I used the manual method for the remaining hosts.
    >
    > I don’t know if this is related, but since the upgrade I’ve also noticed an unfamiliar error when I log in directly to the engine host. (It’s a standalone Centos7 VM running on a separate KVM host.) Here is is:
    >
    > nodectl must be run as root!
    > nodectl must be run as root!
    > This comes up when *any* user logs into the box. When I switch to root I get this:
    > /bin/python3: Error while finding spec for 'nodectl.__main__' (<class 'ImportError'>: No module named 'nodectl')
    > /bin/python3: Error while finding spec for 'nodectl.__main__' (<class 'ImportError'>: No module named 'nodectl')
    > So it looks like it’s been invoked from here:
    > ls -llh /etc/profile.d/nodectl*
    > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 13 Apr  6 06:46 /etc/profile.d/nodectl-motd.sh
    > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 24 Apr  6 06:46 /etc/profile.d/nodectl-run-banner.sh
    > According to ‘yum whatprovides’ this appears to have been installed by package “ovirt-node-ng-nodectl-4.1.0-0.20170406.0.el7.noarch”.
    >
    > Anyone else getting this? I can try fixing the python error by adding the module, but I thought I’d report this first. Any suggestions as to next steps?

    Adding Yuval for the node-specific issues.

    Best,

    >
    > Thanks
    > Daniel
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 4/25/17, 2:01 AM, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com> wrote:
    >
    >     On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:19 AM, Beckman, Daniel
    >     <Daniel.Beckman@ingramcontent.com> wrote:
    >     > So I successfully upgraded my engine from 4.06 to 4.1.1 with no major
    >     > issues.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > A nice thing I noticed was that my custom CA certificate for https on the
    >     > admin and user portals wasn’t clobbered by setup.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > I did have to restore my custom settings for ISO uploader, log collector,
    >     > and websocket proxy:
    >     >
    >     > cp
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/isouploader.conf.d/10-engine-setup.conf.<latest_timestamp>
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/isouploader.conf.d/10-engine-setup.conf
    >     >
    >     > cp
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/ovirt-websocket-proxy.conf.d/10-setup.conf.<latest_timestamp>
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/ovirt-websocket-proxy.conf.d/10-setup.conf
    >     >
    >     > cp
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/logcollector.conf.d/10-engine-setup.conf.<latest_timestamp>
    >     > /etc/ovirt-engine/logcollector.conf.d/10-engine-setup.conf
    >
    >     The utilities read these files sorted by name, last wins. So you
    >     can add '99-my.conf' to each and have it override whatever engine-setup does.
    >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > Now I’m moving on to updating the oVirt node hosts, which are currently at
    >     > oVirt Node 4.0.6.1. (I’m assuming I should do that before attempting to
    >     > upgrade the cluster and data center compatibility level to 4.1.)
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > When I right-click on a host and go to Installation / Check for Upgrade, the
    >     > results are ‘no updates found.’ When I log into that host directly, I notice
    >     > it’s still got the oVirt 4.0 repo, not 4.1. Is there an extra step I’m
    >     > missing? The documentation I’ve found
    >     > (http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade-guide/chap-Updates_between_Minor_Releases/)
    >     > doesn’t mention this.
    >
    >     You are right. It's mentioned for the engine in the release notes [1]
    >     but not for the hosts. Please file a github issue or send a pull request :-)
    >
    >     [1] https://www.ovirt.org/release/4.1.0/
    >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > **
    >     >
    >     > If I can offer some unsolicited feedback: I feel like this list is populated
    >     > with a lot of questions that could be averted with a little care and feeding
    >     > of the documentation. It’s unfortunate because that makes for a rocky
    >     > introduction to oVirt, and it makes it look like a neglected project, which
    >     > I know is not the case.
    >
    >     Patches are welcome :-)
    >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > On a related note, I know this has been discussed before but…
    >     >
    >     > The centralized control in Github for the documentation does not really
    >     > encourage user contributions. What’s wrong with a wiki? If we’re really
    >     > concerned about bad or malicious edits being posted, keep the official in
    >     > git and add a separate wiki that is clearly marked as user-contributed.
    >
    >     That was indeed discussed in the past, I am not aware of any conclusions.
    >     Perhaps start a separate thread about this? Adding Duck.
    >
    >     Please also note that you can have a look at RHV documentation [2].
    >     Almost all of it applies to oVirt as well (and oVirt's to RHV).
    >
    >     [2] https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/red-hat-virtualization/
    >
    >     Best,
    >
    >     >
    >     > **
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > Thanks,
    >     >
    >     > Daniel
    >     >
    >     >
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    >     Didi
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