Hi,

NFS will be sparse. Preallocate is relevant for block storage.

There is a fix to change the UI to display the format (RAW/QCOW2) of the disk instead of the type (Sparse/Preallocated)  [1].
When creating a VM from a template, If you choose thin provisioning the disk format will be alway QCOW2, keeping the disk from the template as is read-only and creating a disk only for the diffs.
If you choose Clone, then the whole disk will be copied and you will have a new copy of template disk in whatever format you want (Raw or QCOW2).

>What happens if you clone a source VM which is using "thin" ?
The VM cloned from a thin templated base VM will be created with a full copy of the disk (as in "Clone" when creating from template)

>Interesting. Is there a way to "merge" the changes ? (I mean to change it from being "thin provision" after its creation and make it an independent VM)
No, a VM created as thin will remain like that. You can clone a new VM from it and them you will have an "independent VM"

>When you create a template for the first time, it seems you can't choose between clone and thin, which one is used ?
When you create a template you make a read-only copy of the VM disks (Clone) . You can choose the format of the disks (RAW/QCOW2)

[1] https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/57190/

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Alexis HAUSER <alexis.hauser@telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote:
>Regarding your examples, I cannot say exactly because of lack of some
>details. What storage type are you using? How do you measure the space used
>on the physical disk?


simply df -h on the PC sharing the NFS storage.


>> For example, when making a VM from template, using pre-allocated disk
>> option, for a 50GB Virtual disk, it only uses 3GB on the physical disk.

> 3GB is the VM's disk? What about the disk of the template?


3GB is the difference using df -h betweem before making the template, and after making it and running the VM.


>Generally, 50GB pre-allocated disk will take 50GB of physical space. A 50GB
>sparse disk will take as many 1GB chunks as needed to store all the
>information that was written to it, maximum 50GB.


so "pre-allocated" doesn't use pre-allocation but sparse instead ? I don't really get it, sorry.


>When you create a VM by cloning another VM or create a VM from a template
>in "clone" mode, a copy of the source disk will be created. The new disk
>will take as much space as the source disk did.


What happens if you clone a source VM which is using "thin" ?


>When you create a VM from a template in "thin provision" mode or creating a
>VM in a pool, the new disk will be initially only a reference to the source
>disk. Reading from it will read the source disk. Writing to it will write
>to the new disk, not touching the source. Thus, all disk fragments that
>were overwritten after disk creation will be physically stored in the new
>disk and read from it, those that were not overwritten, will be read from
>the source disk.


Interesting. Is there a way to "merge" the changes ? (I mean to change it from being "thin provision" after its creation and make it an independent VM)
When you create a template for the first time, it seems you can't choose between clone and thin, which one is used ?
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