On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 4:26 AM, TomK <tomkcpr@mdevsys.com> wrote:
On 4/5/2018 8:59 AM, Tom wrote:


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On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:29 AM, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com <mailto:ykaul@redhat.com>> wrote:



On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:08 AM, TomK <tomkcpr@mdevsys.com <mailto:tomkcpr@mdevsys.com>> wrote:

    On 4/4/2018 3:11 AM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:



        On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Tom <tk@mdevsys.com
        <mailto:tk@mdevsys.com> <mailto:tk@mdevsys.com
        <mailto:tk@mdevsys.com>>> wrote:



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            On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com
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            <mailto:ykaul@redhat.com <mailto:ykaul@redhat.com>>> wrote:



                On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:12 PM, TomK
            <tomkcpr@mdevsys.com <mailto:tomkcpr@mdevsys.com>
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            <mailto:tomkcpr@mdevsys.com>>> wrote:

                    Hey Guy's,

                    If I'm looking to setup the oVirt engine in an HA
                    configuration off the physical servers hosting my
            VM's (non
                    self hosted), what are my options here?

                    I want to setup two to four active oVirt engine
            instances
                    elsewhere and handle the HA via something like
            haproxy /
                    keepalived to keep the entire experience seamless
            to the user.


                You will need to set up the oVirt engine service as
            well as the PG
                database (and ovirt-engine-dwhd service and any other
            service we
                run next to the engine) as highly available module.
                In pacemaker[1], for example.
                You'll need to ensure configuration is also sync'ed
            between nodes,
                etc.
                Y.


            So already have one ovirt engine setup separately on a vm that
            manages two remote physical hosts.  So familiar with the
        single host
            approach which I would simply replicate.  At least that’s
        the idea
            anyway.  Could you please expand a bit on the highly available
            module and  syncing the config between hosts?


        That's a different strategy, which is also legit - you treat
        this VM as a highly available resource. Now you do not need to
        sync the config - just the VM disk and config.


    I think there's a postgres component too and if oVirt engine keeps
    all it's date on the postgres tables, then synchronizing this
    piece might be all I need?  I'm not sure how the separate oVirt
    engines sitting on various separate physical hosts keep their
    settings in sync about the rest of the physicals in an oVirt
    environment. (Assume we may have 100 oVirt physicals for example.)


There's more than just the database, although it contains 99% of what you need. See the content of the result of 'engine-backup' command.
I think you might be somewhat confusing between the number of oVirt hypervisors (we support hundreds) and the Engine - the management, which is single - and with hosted-engine, it's a single, but highly available virtual machine - that can run on one of several (I suggest 3-8) of those hypervisors.
Y.

Yah, still very new to much of this.  Thank you again.

I’ll take that away and do some reading.

Cheers,
Tom


"that can run on one of several (I suggest 3-8) of those hypervisors."
To clarify.  So if I have 3-8 copies of the oVirt Engine in a self-hosted config, only one can run at any one time?  Is this correct?

'One Engine to rule them all.' 
Y.


Cheers,
Tom



        Perhaps something like
        https://www.unixarena.com/2015/12/rhel-7-pacemaker-configuring-ha-kvm-guest.html
        <https://www.unixarena.com/2015/12/rhel-7-pacemaker-configuring-ha-kvm-guest.html>
        .

        But if you are already doing that, I'm not sure why you'd
        prefer this over hosted-engine setup.


    I'm comparing both options.  I really don't want to ask too many
    specific until I have the chance to read into the details of both.

        Y.


    Cheers,
    Tom



            Cheers,
            Tom


                [1] https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html
            <https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html>
                <https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html
            <https://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html>>


                    From what I've seen in oVirt, that seems to be
            possible
                    without the two oVirt engines even knowing each
            other's
                    existence but is it something anyone has ever
            done?  Any
                    recommendations in this case?

                    Having settings replicated would be a bonus but I
            would be
                    comfortable if they weren't and I handle that myself.

                    --         Cheers,
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