I am planning on testing the modify existing to become an export domain.  That will only require me to copy within the isilon cluster a copy of the data which only will take about 1 hour.  The plan is to do the following:

1. Load Fedora 19 on new engine server and install the engine, add new storage domain shares and get fully up and running without adding any nodes
2. shutdown all VM's and then remove the nodes
3. shutdown engine on current server
4. copy the existing storage domain to another location on the NAS and share it out over NFS.  
5. Add nodes to new engine
6. Modify the copy of the storage domain to be an export domain (http://humblec.com/convert-master-data-domain-to-export-domain-in-a-crashed-rhevmovirt-setup/)
7. Add it in as an existing export domain on the new engine server and start import of VM's (will take probably 4-6 hours or maybe longer, total storage is ~1TB of data)

Are there any further suggestions to this?  If this plan fails then I will be able to revert back to the original engine server and domain.

Christian




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 10/01/2013 06:39 PM, Christian Kolquist wrote:
We have a NFS storage cluster (Isilon) for the domain.

The main question: is there a way to bring in an existing storage domain
to a new engine without exporting it then importing it?  This would be
good for not just upgrades but also disaster recovery as well.


yes, importing an existing data domain is a high priority for us for next version as the issue was raised several times by community users.

for 3.3, there a few options (the first one is the cleanest)
1. "save the export part"
- stop using the domain in 3.1
- change its meta data to that of an export domain
- import it as an existing export domain to 3.3
- import the VMs

2. "re-create the VMs / import disks"
- stop using the domain in 3.1
- create a new (empty) domain in 3.3
- move all disks to the new domain (assuming you create the new nfs
  export in a way allowing you to move, not copy, from the old export)
- use the register disk api to add all disks
- create VMs and associate the disks to them

yes, this one requires to document first which disk is for which VM.
i think someone scripted something around this option.

if your disks have snapshots, this may become too complex.

3. re-create the VMs and override their disks.
this was suggested several times in the past, but if you have snapshots, not relevant.



On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com
<mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:

    On 09/30/2013 04:55 PM, Christian Kolquist wrote:

        So, after many frustrating weekends of trying to upgrade ovirt
        from 3.1,
        I have come to the conclustion that it would just be best to
        export all
        of our VM's and Import them once I have redone the entire
        installation
        with FC19 and ovirt 3.3.  Is there a way to export the entire domain
        easily? Or to bring the entire domain into a new install of the
        engine?

        Exporting a single VM takes a very long while.  It would take a
        couple
        of days to export all of our VM's (33 total vm's using 1.017 TB
        of data)
        and then reimport them using the normal means of exporting the
        machines
        off then on to the export domain, load the new engine server
        then import
        them all back in.


        Any tips or tricks would be welcome.


    do you have a single data domain in the DC?
    is it nfs or something else?



        Christian


        FYI, I ran into just about every single bug that people had when
        upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2 and a few more.  I can't spend any
        more time
        troubleshooting the upgrade process.  If we can't do the
        export->import
        easily or migrate the current storage domain we will probably
        have to
        get rid of ovirt and move to another solution.



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