On 09/18/2012 02:35 AM, Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

Given that this week is Rosh Hashana and next week is Yom Kippur, traditionally 2 weeks holiday in Israel, does it make sense to maintain the weekly call? I'd suggest cancelling this week and next week's meetings, and having a "drive to 3.2" meeting in 2 weeks time.

What do you think, Mike? As "the casual observer who used to be in these meetings more often" -- I know that it was mentioned last week that there would be a number of folks out through mid-october; holidays off in Israel extend past Yom Kippur. I'm not sure how large that group is, but that would actually be more like 3+ weeks; Sukkot ends on October 8th. That's a fairly good stretch of time with (hopefully) other activities in the works that need updating.

Results usually vary, but it might be worth trying to have meetings; there are other activities which don't necessarily require the presence of the folks in Israel. I've found that using holiday-ish times is usually good for things like brainstorming, finding easy fix-it items, etc; "top 5 wiki pages that need love," analyzing data/statistics on downloads from a new release. I'd be happy to pop in one of the weeks and talk a bit about release manager stuff from a features/schedule/etc. perspective, and I know Leslie has ongoing things with events -- maybe looking at collateral/flyers/handouts, new swag ideas, marketing stuff might be fun. Or there's always try out oVirt in the Fedora 18 Alpha release, or plan a test day around it :D... oh, wait, I might be biased there :D These things are always difficult; it's less exciting to have not as many folks in the meeting, and sometimes not incredibly productive, but I always feel like I'm somehow discouraging/disenfranchising people in other regions when cancelling meetings because of local holidays. I usually try to just keep the pulse going and try and bring in other folks to do some fun stuff that may be more enticing than usual :) Of course, all IMO - not trying to throw myself under the bus for anything here (except the release manager notes/observances). Those intending to show up get to make the decision! :) -robyn

Thanks, Dave.

On 09/17/2012 01:59 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

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Meeting Time and Place oVirt Weekly Sync * Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC (may change during DST changes) - always at 7:00am US Pacific, 10:00am US Eastern. * To see in your timezone date -d 'WEDNESDAY 1000 EDT' * On IRC: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net

This is the agenda for the 2012-09-19 meeting:

* Status of Next Release (Release Criteria, Target GA date) * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node, infra) * Workshops

If you have other topics, please reply to me and I will add them to the agenda. If you propose a topic, please be prepared to lead the discussion during the meeting.

Thanks

Mike

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On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 16:25 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

On 09/18/2012 01:48 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:

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Results usually vary, but it might be worth trying to have meetings; there are other activities which don't necessarily require the presence of the folks in Israel. I've found that using holiday-ish times is usually good for things like brainstorming, finding easy fix-it items, etc; "top 5 wiki pages that need love," analyzing data/statistics on downloads from a new release.

That's a good point - we would need a different agenda to focus the meetings and help people decide if they should be there.

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These things are always difficult; it's less exciting to have not as many folks in the meeting, and sometimes not incredibly productive, but I always feel like I'm somehow discouraging/disenfranchising people in other regions when cancelling meetings because of local holidays. I usually try to just keep the pulse going and try and bring in other folks to do some fun stuff that may be more enticing than usual :)

Yes, fair point - it's the wrong thing to do, and the wrong message to send. Let's maintain it - we can certainly have anopther meeting re the website redesign (Garrett's been working on a MediaWiki theme for a couple of weeks now) and release management, as you suggest.

Yes, I'd rather not cancel the meeting (even if we just meet for 10 min and decide that there isn't much to discuss today). Dave, perhaps we can organize a different agenda for next week with some of these other topics? Mike

Cheers, Dave.