[Users] ovirt vs RHEV-M

Gary Scarborough

10 Nov 2011 10 Nov '11

7:02 a.m.

I see you have instructions for building the ovirt manager up on the wiki. My question is: How does this compare to what Red Hat is shipping in RHEL? Is the code base currently the same as what Red Hat is shipping? I am evaluating ovirt for possible deployment in a university setting and wondering if it would be better to pursue a RHEL subscription for our cluster. Any light you could shed on this would be very helpful. Thanks, Gary

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José Román Bilbao Castro

10 Nov 10 Nov

10:27 a.m.

This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CC9F8A.F8950240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I will tell you my experience last week building and using oVirt. The installation process is long but easy if you follow the instructions (although I encountered some small problems). One oVirt is installed you = can access it through port 8080. For a production environment I would not recommend using oVirt right now. It is still under development and some important features are not yet available on the web interface, namely = the configuration options, the storage configuration and high availability. Therefore, it will surely not fit your requirements now. But as a work = in progress I would recommend you to follow its development as sooner than later it will be a polished and usable product. In the meantime, If = money is what concerns you, RHEL is free but after 60 days you won=92t have = access to support nor updates (which is not critical if the system is running = behind a firewall or is on an intranet which is not probably the case). If money = is not an issue, go for RHEL or Citrix XenServer. And If money is = definitely not an issue at all, I would go for vSphere from vmware as the best available choice for a production environment.=20 =20 Also, other alternatives exist for servers virtualization like proxmox = (the 2.0 beta is out) and eucalyptus (which will be release 3 soon). =20 Don=92t hesitate to contact me If you have further questions on my = experiences will all that software,=20 =20 Regards, =20 Jose. =20 De: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] En nombre = de Gary Scarborough Enviado el: jueves, 10 de noviembre de 2011 6:03 Para: users@ovirt.org Asunto: [Users] ovirt vs RHEV-M =20 I see you have instructions for building the ovirt manager up on the = wiki. My question is: How does this compare to what Red Hat is shipping in = RHEL? Is the code base currently the same as what Red Hat is shipping? I am evaluating ovirt for possible deployment in a university setting and wondering if it would be better to pursue a RHEL subscription for our cluster. Any light you could shed on this would be very helpful. Thanks, Gary ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CC9F8A.F8950240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta name=3DGenerator = content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DES link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1>Hi,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I will tell you my experience last week building and using oVirt. The = installation process is long but easy if you follow the instructions = (although I encountered some small problems). One oVirt is installed you = can access it through port 8080. For a production environment I would = not recommend using oVirt right now. It is still under development and = some important features are not yet available on the web interface, = namely the configuration options, the storage configuration and high = availability. Therefore, it will surely not fit your requirements now. = But as a work in progress I would recommend you to follow its = development as sooner than later it will be a polished and usable = product. In the meantime, If money is what concerns you, RHEL is free = but after 60 days you won’t have access to support nor updates = (which is not critical if the system is running behind a firewall or is = on an intranet which is not probably the case). If money is not an = issue, go for RHEL or Citrix XenServer. And If money is definitely not = an issue at all, I would go for vSphere from vmware as the best = available choice for a production environment. <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Also, other alternatives exist for servers virtualization like = proxmox (the 2.0 beta is out) and eucalyptus (which will be release 3 = soon).<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Don’t hesitate to contact me If you have further questions on = my experiences will all that software, <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Regards,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Jose.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>De:</= b> = users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] En nombre = de Gary = Scarborough Enviado el: jueves, 10 de noviembre de 2011 = 6:03 Para: users@ovirt.org Asunto: [Users] ovirt vs = RHEV-M<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I see you have instructions for building the ovirt = manager up on the wiki. My question is: How does this = compare to what Red Hat is shipping in RHEL? Is the code base = currently the same as what Red Hat is shipping? I am evaluating = ovirt for possible deployment in a university setting and wondering if = it would be better to pursue a RHEL subscription for our cluster. = Any light you could shed on this would be very = helpful. Thanks, Gary<o:p></o:p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CC9F8A.F8950240--

Andrew Cathrow

1:58 p.m.

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From: "Gary Scarborough" <gscarborough@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:02:53 AM Subject: [Users] ovirt vs RHEV-M

I see you have instructions for building the ovirt manager up on the wiki. My question is: How does this compare to what Red Hat is shipping in RHEL? Is the code base currently the same as what Red Hat is shipping? I am evaluating ovirt for possible deployment in a university setting and wondering if it would be better to pursue a RHEL subscription for our cluster. Any light you could shed on this would be very helpful.

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From a code point of view the oVirt project was seeded with the RHEV 3.0 code base but there are some differences. oVirt includes the HTML based web admin UI, it's still a work in progress, some areas haven't been completed yet but are under active development. RHEV includes a tech-preview version of web admin but also has a WPF based admin console, this is a .NET application, it's fully featured and stable. In the next downstream release we'll remove the WPF admin and replace it with the completed web admin. There are some other proprietary, 3rd party licensed components in RHEV for example the USB remoting support uses a 3rd party solution. In all these cases we're working to replace these, for example we've recently finished work upstream on remote USB 2.0 support in both KVM and Spice and we'll be working on migrating the code to use the new native components. Other differences include things like packaging, installing rhev is just "yum install rhevm".

As a community we are still working on completing and packaging oVirt ready for an upstream release, you'll see more discussions going on about this on-list. Right now working with oVirt will give you a good idea about where the project is going and a something to develop on but right now is not ready for production deployment. If you want to try out RHEV then you'll need a RHEV subscription (not included in RHEL) we have eval subscriptions, ping me off list if you'd like me to arrange one. Aic

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Thanks,

Gary

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