[Users] Problems with snapshots

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000705080103060009000502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab: Regards, --------------000705080103060009000502 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------050603070107010208020803" --------------050603070107010208020803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br> <br> I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this?<br> Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:<br> <br> <img src="cid:part1.02030901.04040401@gmail.com" alt=""><br> <br> Regards,<br> </body> </html> --------------050603070107010208020803 Content-Type: image/png; name="efbfjaaf.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <part1.02030901.04040401@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="efbfjaaf.png" iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAABU4AAADsCAYAAACrKTy6AAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAIABJ REFUeF7s3QecFOX9x/EfcPReLCigqIgCtmgiKIrYS2zYIUH9W4I11ij2jhp7bDFRYzdqTOyK HVDBLiooVroKUqSXg/98n3OWuWFmttze3d7u5/GFtzvlmed5P7Ozu799nmfqvfHGGyt79Ohh bdu2tfr16xtpdYEVK1bY7Nmzbdy4cbZw4cKUk5Y3a9bM8FvdrNSWcI5UrcXT+fXr169qByjh vd98802uW7XY/unObd4/qrdx8K+ab5RfgwYNqpYpeyOAAAIIIIAAAgjUuEB5ebkRw8qMPfwZ uN6kSZNWNm/ePLO9S3yrBQsW2NixY83/0qATb/PNNzf8SvzECFSfc6Rq50KcX+fOnauWcQnv PXnyZK5bBdD+cec27x810zj4V8056FdWVla1zNgbAQQQQAABBBBAoMYFli9fbsSwsmP3PwPX 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------=_Part_11131964_677207649.1383237754160 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_11131965_165627643.1383237754160" ------=_Part_11131965_165627643.1383237754160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Juan, When you a snapshot- the snapshot is being taken for image disks - lun/shareable disks aren't part of the snapshot. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo Lorier" <jplorier@gmail.com> To: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:24:27 PM Subject: [Users] Problems with snapshots
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
Regards,
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Hi Liron, Thanks for the reply. If I get what you said, when I take a snapshot of a vm, disk don't get copied, am I right? The system disk of the vm is not shared, is dedicated to that vm and in the engine is not declared as shared. How can I backup a live vm if it's not by a snapshot,? El oct 31, 2013 2:42 PM, "Liron Aravot" <laravot@redhat.com> escribió:
Hi Juan, When you a snapshot- the snapshot is being taken for image disks - lun/shareable disks aren't part of the snapshot.
From: "Juan Pablo Lorier" <jplorier@gmail.com> To: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:24:27 PM Subject: [Users] Problems with snapshots
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with
----- Original Message ----- direct
luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
Regards,
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

I think that Gianluca is correct in his answer. its a webadmin issue On 10/31/2013 05:06 PM, jplorier@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Liron,
Thanks for the reply. If I get what you said, when I take a snapshot of a vm, disk don't get copied, am I right? The system disk of the vm is not shared, is dedicated to that vm and in the engine is not declared as shared. How can I backup a live vm if it's not by a snapshot,?
El oct 31, 2013 2:42 PM, "Liron Aravot" <laravot@redhat.com <mailto:laravot@redhat.com>> escribió:
Hi Juan, When you a snapshot- the snapshot is being taken for image disks - lun/shareable disks aren't part of the snapshot.
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Juan Pablo Lorier" <jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com>> > To: "users" <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:24:27 PM > Subject: [Users] Problems with snapshots > > Hi, > > I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct > luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 > minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup > but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything > created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where > should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on > this? > Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab: > > > > Regards, > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
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-- Dafna Ron

Thanks, I'll take a look at the bug and see what I can do. Regards, On 31/10/13 15:11, Dafna Ron wrote:
I think that Gianluca is correct in his answer. its a webadmin issue
On 10/31/2013 05:06 PM, jplorier@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Liron,
Thanks for the reply. If I get what you said, when I take a snapshot of a vm, disk don't get copied, am I right? The system disk of the vm is not shared, is dedicated to that vm and in the engine is not declared as shared. How can I backup a live vm if it's not by a snapshot,?
El oct 31, 2013 2:42 PM, "Liron Aravot" <laravot@redhat.com <mailto:laravot@redhat.com>> escribió:
Hi Juan, When you a snapshot- the snapshot is being taken for image disks - lun/shareable disks aren't part of the snapshot.
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Juan Pablo Lorier" <jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com>> > To: "users" <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:24:27 PM > Subject: [Users] Problems with snapshots > > Hi, > > I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct > luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 > minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup > but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything > created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where > should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on > this? > Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab: > > > > Regards, > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case). See this mail of mine: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html and the whole thread referred there Gianluca

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080809060600020505060000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you, I'll take a look at that. Regards, On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case). See this mail of mine: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html and the whole thread referred there
Gianluca
--------------080809060600020505060000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Thank you, I'll take a look at that.<br> Regards,<br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAG2kNCyn90wM5YrFruyXmwbSOeaAFcyKe8bGfDkyxhviBee5vA@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:<br> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br> <br> I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this?<br> Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:<br> <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra">For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case).</div> <div class="gmail_extra"> See this mail of mine:</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html">http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html</a><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra"> and the whole thread referred there</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra">Gianluca</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------080809060600020505060000--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080306070306050207050607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gianluca, I saw your post and I think it does not apply to my problem. First of all, I have newer version than yours: ovirt-engine.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-backend.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 3.2.0.11-1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-genericapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-restapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 3.2.0.3-1.el6.centos.alt @ovirt_test ovirt-engine-setup.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-tools.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-userportal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable Another thing is that it looks like you had the vm started from a disk in the data storage, mine are from direct lun. Anyway, I'm trying to make backup from the vms by cloning the vms and exporting them, but even exporting a shut down vm does not copy the disk. Is exporting of a direct lun possible with ovirt? Regards, On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case). See this mail of mine: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html and the whole thread referred there
Gianluca
--------------080306070306050207050607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Gianluca,<br> <br> I saw your post and I think it does not apply to my problem. First of all, I have newer version than yours:<br> <br> ovirt-engine.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-backend.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 3.2.0.11-1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-genericapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-restapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 3.2.0.3-1.el6.centos.alt @ovirt_test <br> ovirt-engine-setup.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-tools.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-userportal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable<br> <br> <br> Another thing is that it looks like you had the vm started from a disk in the data storage, mine are from direct lun.<br> <br> Anyway, I'm trying to make backup from the vms by cloning the vms and exporting them, but even exporting a shut down vm does not copy the disk.<br> Is exporting of a direct lun possible with ovirt?<br> Regards,<br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAG2kNCyn90wM5YrFruyXmwbSOeaAFcyKe8bGfDkyxhviBee5vA@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:<br> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br> <br> I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this?<br> Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:<br> <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra">For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case).</div> <div class="gmail_extra"> See this mail of mine:</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html">http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html</a><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra"> and the whole thread referred there</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_extra">Gianluca</div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------080306070306050207050607--

On 10/31/2013 08:11 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Gianluca,
I saw your post and I think it does not apply to my problem. First of all, I have newer version than yours:
ovirt-engine.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-backend.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 3.2.0.11-1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-genericapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-restapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 3.2.0.3-1.el6.centos.alt @ovirt_test ovirt-engine-setup.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-tools.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-userportal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable
Another thing is that it looks like you had the vm started from a disk in the data storage, mine are from direct lun.
Anyway, I'm trying to make backup from the vms by cloning the vms and exporting them, but even exporting a shut down vm does not copy the disk. Is exporting of a direct lun possible with ovirt?
so as explained, snapshot are currently not supported for shared disks and for direct lun disks. export of direct lun disk should work though. allon?
Regards,
On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case). See this mail of mine: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html and the whole thread referred there
Gianluca
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Thanks Itamar, The thing is that export doesn't copy the direct lun. About snapshots, can it be done if the lun has lvm? I used to make a sort of live backup using lvm snapshots with this luns, maybe this can be done within ovirt in a future version. Regards, On 31/10/13 21:30, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 10/31/2013 08:11 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Gianluca,
I saw your post and I think it does not apply to my problem. First of all, I have newer version than yours:
ovirt-engine.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-backend.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 3.2.0.11-1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-genericapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-restapi.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 3.2.0.3-1.el6.centos.alt @ovirt_test ovirt-engine-setup.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-tools.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-userportal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal.noarch 3.2.2-1.1.el6 @ovirt-stable
Another thing is that it looks like you had the vm started from a disk in the data storage, mine are from direct lun.
Anyway, I'm trying to make backup from the vms by cloning the vms and exporting them, but even exporting a shut down vm does not copy the disk. Is exporting of a direct lun possible with ovirt?
so as explained, snapshot are currently not supported for shared disks and for direct lun disks. export of direct lun disk should work though. allon?
Regards,
On 31/10/13 15:03, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:
Hi,
I have a DC with an ISCSI data storage and several VMs running with direct luns discs for each one. Ovirt is 3.2 all running on top of centos 6.4 minimal(hosts and engine). I want to take snapshots of the vms for backup but though it claims everything went right, there's no file or anything created anywhere and the details of the snapshot shows no disks. Where should I look for the snapshot? what info do you need to give me a hand on this? Here's a capture of the web admin snapshot tab:
For details pane of snapshot missing information there was also a bug in 3.2 (in F18 in my case). See this mail of mine: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012764.html and the whole thread referred there
Gianluca
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Dafna Ron
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Itamar Heim
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jplorier@gmail.com
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Juan Pablo Lorier
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Liron Aravot