when creating VMs, I don't want hosted_storage to be an option

Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain the default. Is there a way to do this? Thanks

On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote:
Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain the default. Is there a way to do this?
This would be a nice thing to have. AIUI, however, the oVirt folks are working towards not needing a dedicated storage domain for the hosted engine, which may alleviate this particular gripe. That being said, it would otherwise be nice to mark a storage domain as not usable for new volumes (a bit like the allocatable option for LVM physical volumes). Cheers, Chris -- Chris Boot bootc@bootc.net

As a workaround, I think that the list of storage domains in the new disk window is sorted alphabetically. You can try to edit the name of the storage domain to be on the bottom of the list and not first. On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net> wrote:
Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain
On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote: the default.
Is there a way to do this?
This would be a nice thing to have.
AIUI, however, the oVirt folks are working towards not needing a dedicated storage domain for the hosted engine, which may alleviate this particular gripe. That being said, it would otherwise be nice to mark a storage domain as not usable for new volumes (a bit like the allocatable option for LVM physical volumes).
Cheers, Chris
-- Chris Boot bootc@bootc.net _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Fred Rolland <frolland@redhat.com> wrote: =20 As a workaround, I think that the list of storage domains in the new = disk window is sorted alphabetically. You can try to edit the name of the storage domain to be on the bottom = of the list and not first. =20 On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net = <mailto:bootc@bootc.net>> wrote: On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote:
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I do not see any reference to the name in the engine source code. Hosted engine agent uses UUID to identify it. So I think it should be fine. Martin On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:49 PM, aduckers <alex.duckers@gmail.com> wrote:
Can it be safely renamed? It looks like the GUI will let me but I don’t feel confident that it won’t create other issues.
On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Fred Rolland <frolland@redhat.com> wrote:
As a workaround, I think that the list of storage domains in the new disk window is sorted alphabetically. You can try to edit the name of the storage domain to be on the bottom of the list and not first.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net> wrote:
On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote:
Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain the default. Is there a way to do this?
This would be a nice thing to have.
AIUI, however, the oVirt folks are working towards not needing a dedicated storage domain for the hosted engine, which may alleviate this particular gripe. That being said, it would otherwise be nice to mark a storage domain as not usable for new volumes (a bit like the allocatable option for LVM physical volumes).
Cheers, Chris
-- Chris Boot bootc@bootc.net _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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So far so good. I renamed it, but it was still listed first in the list when creating an image for a VM. After closing out my browser and reconnecting, it’s now behaving as I’d expect - in alphabetical order.
On Jun 22, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> wrote:
I do not see any reference to the name in the engine source code. Hosted engine agent uses UUID to identify it. So I think it should be fine.
Martin
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:49 PM, aduckers <alex.duckers@gmail.com> wrote:
Can it be safely renamed? It looks like the GUI will let me but I don’t feel confident that it won’t create other issues.
On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Fred Rolland <frolland@redhat.com> wrote:
As a workaround, I think that the list of storage domains in the new disk window is sorted alphabetically. You can try to edit the name of the storage domain to be on the bottom of the list and not first.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net> wrote:
On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote:
Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain the default. Is there a way to do this?
This would be a nice thing to have.
AIUI, however, the oVirt folks are working towards not needing a dedicated storage domain for the hosted engine, which may alleviate this particular gripe. That being said, it would otherwise be nice to mark a storage domain as not usable for new volumes (a bit like the allocatable option for LVM physical volumes).
Cheers, Chris
-- Chris Boot bootc@bootc.net _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi, Chris is right. We want to remove the specialty status from that storage domain. It is one of the highest priority items for hosted engine right now. There is currently no way to hide it I am afraid. Best regards -- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net> wrote:
On 19/06/17 15:30, Mike Farnam wrote:
Hi All - Is that a way to mark hosted_storage somehow so that it’s not available to add new VMs to? Right now it’s the default storage domain when adding a VM. At the least, I’d like to make another storage domain the default. Is there a way to do this?
This would be a nice thing to have.
AIUI, however, the oVirt folks are working towards not needing a dedicated storage domain for the hosted engine, which may alleviate this particular gripe. That being said, it would otherwise be nice to mark a storage domain as not usable for new volumes (a bit like the allocatable option for LVM physical volumes).
Cheers, Chris
-- Chris Boot bootc@bootc.net _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
Chris is right. We want to remove the specialty status from that storage domain. It is one of the highest priority items for hosted engine right now.
There is currently no way to hide it I am afraid.
Best regards
-- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt
Hello Martin (and list), any update on this item to remove specialty of hosted_engine storage? Any bugzilla RFE or pointer? I think it didn't catch 4.2, correct? Thanks, Gianluca

Hi, we got much closer to officially remove the specialty status of both the domain and the VM in 4.2 with features like Node 0 deployment (default since 4.2.1) and direct libvirtxml support in engine and HE (4.2.2 iirc). There are couple of outstanding issues: - HE needs to know how to connect all storage domains necessary for HE VM disks (not 100% related, but close) - (live) storage migration is not supported yet - HE nodes need to learn about the new connection details - changes to gluster topology are not supported yet - same reason as above - we have a bug with regards to block devices - will be fixed by https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/87325/ - fencing and SPM role need to be tested a bit more to make sure we have no surprises there - old deployments might not have some data in the engine DB (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373930) We will not be adding any additional limits as all seems to work in the usual cases and we work on removing the remaining restrictions. I am not 100% certain when it will be finished exactly, but you can use it now if you are careful (basically do not use custom mount options and do not add disks to the HE VM that would come from a different SD!!). We have two tracking bugs for the related work: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455169 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393902 - most of what was needed was fixed already. Best regards Martin Sivak On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
Chris is right. We want to remove the specialty status from that storage domain. It is one of the highest priority items for hosted engine right now.
There is currently no way to hide it I am afraid.
Best regards
-- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt
Hello Martin (and list), any update on this item to remove specialty of hosted_engine storage? Any bugzilla RFE or pointer? I think it didn't catch 4.2, correct?
Thanks, Gianluca
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aduckers
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Chris Boot
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Fred Rolland
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Martin Sivak
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Mike Farnam