[Users] oVirt 3.5 planning

with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...

On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
iso-upload through web gui vm view and acl's by folder ...

External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :) -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

ovirt-guest-tools-iso similar to rhev-guest-tools-iso and uploaded to ISO domain by default On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com>wrote:
External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :)
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

--_000_E1DA3226A946BC428B66CE34DAF3307FAE0BDAAEFEbl8esrv5aubgi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am also voting in favor of ovirt-guest-tools-iso. Best, Latcho -- Latchezar Filtchev American Universi= ty in Bulgaria Director Office of Communications 1 G.Izmirliev - Makednocheto sq. and Computing 2700 Blagoevgrad e-mail: latcho@aubg.bg Bulgaria Direct: +359 (73) 888346 Assistant: +359 (73) 888333 Fax: +359 (73) 888188 From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of= Liviu Elama Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:34 AM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning ovirt-guest-tools-iso similar to rhev-guest-tools-iso and uploaded to ISO d= omain by default On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com<mailt= o:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote: External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :) -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:users= -bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org>] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --_000_E1DA3226A946BC428B66CE34DAF3307FAE0BDAAEFEbl8esrv5aubgi_ Content-Type: text/html; 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&n= bsp;  = ; American University in Bulgaria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p= class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s= ans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Director Office of Communications &nbs= p; 1 G.Izmirliev - Makednocheto sq.<o:p></o:p></span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and Computing &nbs= p; &= nbsp; &nbs= p; &= nbsp; 2700 Blagoevgrad<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa= n style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>e-mail: latcho@aubg.bg &= nbsp; &nbs= p; Bulgaria<o:p></o:p></span></p><= p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","= sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Direct: +359 (73) 888346<o:p></o:p></span></p><p= class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s= ans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Assistant: +359 (73) 888333<o:p></o:p></span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: +359 (73) 888188<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c= lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","san= s-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s= pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4= 97D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s= ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o= :p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0= pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:user= s-bounces@ovirt.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Liviu Elama<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesda= y, February 25, 2014 4:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> users@ovirt.org<br><b>Subject:</= b> Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
<o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom= :12.0pt'>ovirt-guest-tools-iso similar to rhev-guest-tools-iso and uploaded= to ISO domain by default<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm= al style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoN= ormal>On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Maurice James <<a href=3D"mailto:= midnightsteel@msn.com" target=3D"_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a>> wrot= e:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>External authentication that does not= require the use of Kerberos in the<br>environment :)<o:p></o:p></p><div><d= iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"= mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a> [mailto:<a href= =3D"mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] On Behalf = Of<br>Itamar Heim<br>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM<br>To: <a hre= f=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br>Subject: [Users] oVirt = 3.5 planning<br><br>with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great= features, time to<br>collect requests for 3.5...<br>______________________= _________________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:Users@= ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman= /listinfo/users" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/= users</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Users maili= ng list<br><a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a hre= f=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target=3D"_blank">http:= //lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></di= v><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>=
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020708020001010400070703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/24/2014 11:08 PM, Latchezar Filtchev wrote:
I am also voting in favor of ovirt-guest-tools-iso.
+1 BTW this RFE is already in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489 It's my understanding that the biggest challenge is creating a suitable build environment. It's been pushed off for the last few releases. Interested parties could also add themselves to the CC of the report to emphasize interest. -Bob
Best,
Latcho
--
Latchezar Filtchev American University in Bulgaria
Director Office of Communications 1 G.Izmirliev - Makednocheto sq.
and Computing 2700 Blagoevgrad
e-mail: latcho@aubg.bg Bulgaria
Direct: +359 (73) 888346
Assistant: +359 (73) 888333
Fax: +359 (73) 888188
*From:*users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Liviu Elama *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:34 AM *To:* users@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
ovirt-guest-tools-iso similar to rhev-guest-tools-iso and uploaded to ISO domain by default
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :)
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org>] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM To: users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--------------020708020001010400070703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> On 02/24/2014 11:08 PM, Latchezar Filtchev wrote:<br> <blockquote cite="mid:E1DA3226A946BC428B66CE34DAF3307FAE0BDAAEFE@bl8esrv5.aubgin.local" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char"; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} span.BalloonTextChar {mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text"; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am also voting in favor of ovirt-guest-tools-iso.</span></p> </div> </blockquote> <br> +1<br> <br> BTW this RFE is already in Bugzilla: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489</a><br> <br> It's my understanding that the biggest challenge is creating a suitable build environment.<br> <br> It's been pushed off for the last few releases. Interested parties could also add themselves to the CC of the report to emphasize interest.<br> <br> -Bob<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:E1DA3226A946BC428B66CE34DAF3307FAE0BDAAEFE@bl8esrv5.aubgin.local" type="cite"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Latcho<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Latchezar Filtchev American University in Bulgaria<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Director Office of Communications 1 G.Izmirliev - Makednocheto sq.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and Computing 2700 Blagoevgrad<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">e-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:latcho@aubg.bg">latcho@aubg.bg</a> Bulgaria<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Direct: +359 (73) 888346<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Assistant: +359 (73) 888333<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fax: +359 (73) 888188<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Liviu Elama<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:34 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">ovirt-guest-tools-iso similar to rhev-guest-tools-iso and uploaded to ISO domain by default<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Maurice James <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com" target="_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the<br> environment :)<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br> Itamar Heim<br> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:59 AM<br> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br> Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<br> <br> with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to<br> collect requests for 3.5...<br> _______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------020708020001010400070703--

+1 (and added to cc list) Am 25.02.2014 16:24, schrieb Bob Doolittle:
On 02/24/2014 11:08 PM, Latchezar Filtchev wrote:
I am also voting in favor of ovirt-guest-tools-iso.
+1
BTW this RFE is already in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489
It's my understanding that the biggest challenge is creating a suitable build environment.
It's been pushed off for the last few releases. Interested parties could also add themselves to the CC of the report to emphasize interest.
-Bob
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040306060703050002090906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dn(a 25.02.2014 02:55, Maurice James wrote / napísal(a):
External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :)
This has my vote too. And my axe. -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman --------------040306060703050002090906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 25.02.2014 02:55, Maurice James wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:BLU405-EAS250BCEEB0A33F9D2045BA5DB2810@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">External authentication that does not require the use of Kerberos in the environment :) </pre> </blockquote> This has my vote too. And my axe.<br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </body> </html> --------------040306060703050002090906--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080903060704020103090406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dn(a 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
multiple ISO domains. -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman --------------080903060704020103090406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:530B7A68.3080604@redhat.com" type="cite">with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... <br> </blockquote> <br> multiple ISO domains.<br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </body> </html> --------------080903060704020103090406--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020205010805030403040102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dňa 25.02.2014 10:45, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
On 02/25/2014 11:06 AM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote:
Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
multiple ISO domains.
can you please elaborate a bit on the use case?
Of course. My ISO domain died. With ovirt I was unable to remove/detach it to create a new one. I was left without a means to boot repair ISOs ( as the iso domain was also my PXE server). The main bug here is IMHO the inability to remove/detach a dead storage. With ISO its particularly painful, as there can be only one of them. -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman --------------020205010805030403040102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 25.02.2014 10:45, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:530C6656.5080807@redhat.com" type="cite">On 02/25/2014 11:06 AM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a): <br> <blockquote type="cite">with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time <br> to collect requests for 3.5... <br> </blockquote> <br> multiple ISO domains. <br> </blockquote> <br> can you please elaborate a bit on the use case? <br> </blockquote> <br> Of course. My ISO domain died. With ovirt I was unable to remove/detach it to create a new one. I was left without a means to boot repair ISOs ( as the iso domain was also my PXE server).<br> <br> The main bug here is IMHO the inability to remove/detach a dead storage. With ISO its particularly painful, as there can be only one of them.<br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </body> </html> --------------020205010805030403040102--

On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote:
Dňa 25.02.2014 10:45, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
On 02/25/2014 11:06 AM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote:
Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
multiple ISO domains.
can you please elaborate a bit on the use case?
Of course. My ISO domain died. With ovirt I was unable to remove/detach it to create a new one. I was left without a means to boot repair ISOs ( as the iso domain was also my PXE server).
The main bug here is IMHO the inability to remove/detach a dead storage. With ISO its particularly painful, as there can be only one of them.
allon - thoughts on inability to remove a dead iso storage domain? alissa - any reason editing the iso domain to another one wouldn't work in this case?
-- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman

Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to hang the OS. This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, since they then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then presented with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all not working since they have no (and should have none) permission to those objects. So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think would be a good idea. Rgds Jonas

On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote:
Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to hang the OS. This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, since they then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then presented with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all not working since they have no (and should have none) permission to those objects.
So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think would be a good idea.
Rgds Jonas
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michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal?

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I think it will be nice to have: 1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine 2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication 3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it Regards Liviu On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com>wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 From: iheim@redhat.com To: jonas@israelsson.com; users@ovirt.org; mskrivan@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to hang the OS. This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, since they then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then presented with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all not working since they have no (and should have none) permission to those objects.
So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I
On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: think
would be a good idea.
Rgds Jonas
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On 02/27/2014 09:35 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
I think it will be nice to have:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/ Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon). vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 27/02/14 21:44 +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/27/2014 09:35 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
I think it will be nice to have:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
The patch is Code Reviewed and Verified. Just needs to be pushed.
Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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-- Adam Litke

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From: "Adam Litke" <alitke@redhat.com> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:27:35 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 27/02/14 21:44 +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/27/2014 09:35 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
I think it will be nice to have:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
The patch is Code Reviewed and Verified. Just needs to be pushed.
Adam , its need a manual rebase , please rebase and submit again ...
Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this
functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this?
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/ Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
I can surely test the agent and I can try give it a go to package agent for 8.3(if no one else did this before) as I'm interested in pfsense on ovirt
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 02/27/2014 10:51 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this?
I'm aware of several, yes.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000109090702080601020707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/27/2014 09:51 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this?
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/ Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd?
The latest information I have is, that they yet don't have virtio serial drivers which is the very basic requirement.
(liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
I can surely test the agent and I can try give it a go to package agent for 8.3(if no one else did this before) as I'm interested in pfsense on ovirt
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com> <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> <mailto:iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com> <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> <mailto:users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com> <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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-- Regards, Vinzenz Feenstra | Senior Software Engineer RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: +420 532 294 625 IRC: vfeenstr or evilissimo Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com --------------000109090702080601020707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/27/2014 09:51 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAPshyAv4g03wKXQh0H_Vb8--Pt3hdg5fk3O=2wJpX6_H67soiw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><br> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this<br> functionality in engine<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well) <div class=""><br> </div> </blockquote> <div>Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this? <br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> sahina - thoughts? <div class=""><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest?<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/" target="_blank">http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/</a><br> Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).<br> <br> vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd?<br> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> The latest information I have is, that they yet don't have virtio serial drivers which is the very basic requirement.<br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAPshyAv4g03wKXQh0H_Vb8--Pt3hdg5fk3O=2wJpX6_H67soiw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)<br> </blockquote> <div>I can surely test the agent and I can try give it a go to package agent for 8.3(if no one else did this before) as I'm interested in pfsense on ovirt<br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <br> Regards<br> Liviu<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com" target="_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a><br> </div> <div class=""> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com" target="_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a>>> wrote:<br> <br> Its a "plug" icon<br> <br> <br> </div> <div class=""> > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200<br> </div> > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com" target="_blank">iheim@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com" target="_blank">iheim@redhat.com</a>><br> > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jonas@israelsson.com" target="_blank">jonas@israelsson.com</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jonas@israelsson.com" target="_blank">jonas@israelsson.com</a>>;<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" target="_blank">mskrivan@redhat.com</a><br> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" target="_blank">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>> <div> <div class="h5"><br> <br> > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<br> ><br> > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote:<br> > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a<br> few users<br> > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they<br> managed to<br> > > hang the OS.<br> > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and<br> > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can<br> help,<br> > > since they<br> > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the<br> ability<br> > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are<br> then<br> > > presented<br> > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks<br> etc, all<br> > > not working since they have no (and should have none)<br> > > permission to those objects.<br> > ><br> > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off<br> button and<br> > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power<br> off I think<br> > > would be a good idea.<br> > ><br> > > Rgds Jonas<br> > ><br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > Users mailing list<br> </div> </div> > > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>> <div class=""><br> > > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> ><br> > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal?<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Users mailing list<br> </div> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>> <div class=""><br> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> </div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Regards, Vinzenz Feenstra | Senior Software Engineer RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: +420 532 294 625 IRC: vfeenstr or evilissimo Better technology. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030107010807010004060108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 27.02.2014 22:51, Liviu Elama ?????:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this?
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/ Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
I can surely test the agent and I can try give it a go to package agent for 8.3(if no one else did this before) as I'm interested in pfsense on ovirt
We have a lot of freebsd vm's in our ovirt environment (8.4 ... 10.0), so I am also very interesting to test guest agent.
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com> <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> <mailto:iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com> <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> <mailto:users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com> <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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--------------030107010807010004060108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">27.02.2014 22:51, Liviu Elama пишет:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAPshyAv4g03wKXQh0H_Vb8--Pt3hdg5fk3O=2wJpX6_H67soiw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><br> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this<br> functionality in engine<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well) <div class=""><br> </div> </blockquote> <div>Do you know if there is a 3rd party that has started work on this? <br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> sahina - thoughts? <div class=""><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest?<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/" target="_blank">http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/</a><br> Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).<br> <br> vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd?<br> (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)<br> </blockquote> <div>I can surely test the agent and I can try give it a go to package agent for 8.3(if no one else did this before) as I'm interested in pfsense on ovirt<br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> We have a lot of freebsd vm's in our ovirt environment (8.4 ... 10.0), so I am also very interesting to test guest agent.<br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAPshyAv4g03wKXQh0H_Vb8--Pt3hdg5fk3O=2wJpX6_H67soiw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <div> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=""> <br> Regards<br> Liviu<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com" target="_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a><br> </div> <div class=""> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com" target="_blank">midnightsteel@msn.com</a>>> wrote:<br> <br> Its a "plug" icon<br> <br> <br> </div> <div class=""> > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200<br> </div> > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com" target="_blank">iheim@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com" target="_blank">iheim@redhat.com</a>><br> > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jonas@israelsson.com" target="_blank">jonas@israelsson.com</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jonas@israelsson.com" target="_blank">jonas@israelsson.com</a>>;<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" target="_blank">mskrivan@redhat.com</a><br> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" target="_blank">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>> <div> <div class="h5"><br> <br> > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<br> ><br> > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote:<br> > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a<br> few users<br> > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they<br> managed to<br> > > hang the OS.<br> > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and<br> > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can<br> help,<br> > > since they<br> > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the<br> ability<br> > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are<br> then<br> > > presented<br> > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks<br> etc, all<br> > > not working since they have no (and should have none)<br> > > permission to those objects.<br> > ><br> > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off<br> button and<br> > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power<br> off I think<br> > > would be a good idea.<br> > ><br> > > Rgds Jonas<br> > ><br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > Users mailing list<br> </div> </div> > > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>> <div class=""><br> > > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> ><br> > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal?<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Users mailing list<br> </div> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>> <div class=""><br> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> </div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------030107010807010004060108--

On 02/28/2014 01:14 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/27/2014 09:35 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
I think it will be nice to have:
1. A VM appliance to do backups using the backup APIs or add this functionality in engine
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
2. engine to create and maintain gluster geo-replication
sahina - thoughts?
Yes, managing and monitoring gluster geo-replication from oVirt is on the roadmap. We had started some work on designing it (http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication), but had to abandon it due to other priorities. Though this may not make it to 3.5, could you review the feature page and tell us if these are the features of Geo replication that you were looking for?
3. freeBSD as supported guest and guest agent for it
adam - where are we with getting freebsd added as guest? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/ Liviu - note it is just a config file (other than the icon).
vinzenz - i don't remember anyone volunteered to test and package the guest agent on freebsd? (liviu - maybe you can try to tackle that?)
Regards Liviu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Maurice James <midnightsteel@msn.com <mailto:midnightsteel@msn.com>> wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 > From: iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com> > To: jonas@israelsson.com <mailto:jonas@israelsson.com>; users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>; mskrivan@redhat.com <mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning > > On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: > > Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users > > that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to > > hang the OS. > > This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and > > shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, > > since they > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then > > presented > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all > > not working since they have no (and should have none) > > permission to those objects. > > > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think > > would be a good idea. > > > > Rgds Jonas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Bacula? Am 27.02.2014 20:44, schrieb Itamar Heim:
I'd rather see integrated with backup solutions to tackle this (hopefully, there are relevant open source ones as well)
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090404030207050705080404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is the extended tab, If only having user-permissions that tab is not avalible, nor should it be. My point is, the basic tab lacks functions, and the extended gives an ordinary user far to many options (as earlier stated wont work anyway since a ordinary user wont get any permission to create new machines, disks etc) hence my suggestion to add a few new features to the basic tab. Rgds Jonas On 27/02/14 14:42, Maurice James wrote:
Its a "plug" icon
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:31:34 +0200 From: iheim@redhat.com To: jonas@israelsson.com; users@ovirt.org; mskrivan@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
Not sure if this already exist but I have had to help quite a few users that have only user-permissions to restart their VM if they managed to hang the OS. This since they lack the permission to power off the machine, and shutdown simply is not enough. Giving them more permission can help, since they then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then presented with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all not working since they have no (and should have none) permission to those objects.
So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I
On 02/25/2014 12:00 PM, Jonas Israelsson wrote: think
would be a good idea.
Rgds Jonas
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michal - don't we have power off vm in the basic user portal? _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Giving them more permission can help,<br> > > since they<br> > > then will have the extended tab with more options including the ability<br> > > to power off a VM , this however IMO is overkill since they are then<br> > > presented<br> > > with a vast number of options such as add disk, nic, networks etc, all<br> > > not working since they have no (and should have none)<br> > > permission to those objects.<br> > ><br> > > So adding to the basic view in the user portal a power off button and<br> > > extending the ordinary user-permission to also include power off I think<br> > > would be a good idea.<br> > ><br> > > Rgds Jonas<br> > ><br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > Users mailing list<br> > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> > <br> > michal - don't we have 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Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Well I've got a list of bugs I'd like to get fixed and a list of RFEs, some of these might also be viable for 3.3.4 or 3.4.1 instead of 3.5: Bug: wrong boot order when booting with multiple cd-roms/cloud-init this should be fixable in 3.3.4 or 3.4 but no reply so far. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064927 RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1 RFE: allow to change the hostname/address ovirt uses to connect to a host (a bug was found while investigating this), this would enclude automatic enrollment of new certificates to the hosts. To follow up on this, it would also be cool to not just support IPv4 but also IPv6 (not yet included in this RFE) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060215 RFE: alternative policy for KSM via MOM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026294 RFE: Allow to configure the timeout for VNC password authentication via webadmin (you can do this via API but not via webadmin). I don't need it, but I guess it would be convenient for many users. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055566 RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764 RFE: unbundle novnc dependency from ovirt-engine (novnc is currently a hard dependency) so you can install novnc on a different host https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1063236 RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this. RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso is attached to multiple vms. I will write a BZ for this later, too. RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297 and last but not least: RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778 basically you can search BZ for all bugs that I watch, these are the ones I'm interested the most atm. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1
this will not make 3.4. as discussed in the thread on users ml, you could implement as a plugin in 3.4, but the interface is not stable yet, so you'll have to re-adjust it for 3.5.
RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764
that's supposed to be in 3.4? (not for unplug)
RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?) glance can serve for export/import and can be attached to many DCs/Engine's as well.

Can they be attached to multiple DCs at the same time? I didn't try this out. Maybe it already works? If it does, since which version? So I can mount different/the same isos on different DCs to multiple vms? That would be nice. Am 25.02.2014 11:14, schrieb Itamar Heim:
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?)
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

On 02/25/2014 12:23 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Can they be attached to multiple DCs at the same time? I didn't try this out. Maybe it already works? If it does, since which version? So I can mount different/the same isos on different DCs to multiple vms? That would be nice.
an ISO domain can be assocaited to multiple DCs/Engines concurently. since 2.2 iirc... for sure before 3.0, so for ovirt - always...
Am 25.02.2014 11:14, schrieb Itamar Heim:
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?)

On 02/25/2014 10:23 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Can they be attached to multiple DCs at the same time? I didn't try this out. Maybe it already works? If it does, since which version? So I can mount different/the same isos on different DCs to multiple vms? That would be nice.
We were always able to share an ISO domain You can use the same iso's on different DC's and multiple vm's can read from the same iso.
Am 25.02.2014 11:14, schrieb Itamar Heim:
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?)
-- Dafna Ron

On 02/25/2014 11:23 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Can they be attached to multiple DCs at the same time? I didn't try this out. Maybe it already works? If it does, since which version? So I can mount different/the same isos on different DCs to multiple vms? That would be nice. That's a feature we are using on a daily basis in our internal infrastructure.
Am 25.02.2014 11:14, schrieb Itamar Heim:
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?)
-- Regards, Vinzenz Feenstra | Senior Software Engineer RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: +420 532 294 625 IRC: vfeenstr or evilissimo Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1
this will not make 3.4. as discussed in the thread on users ml, you could implement as a plugin in 3.4, but the interface is not stable yet, so you'll have to re-adjust it for 3.5.
RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764
that's supposed to be in 3.4? (not for unplug)
On 02/25/2014 12:14 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: please refer to the hotplug cpu wiki [1] for the limitation and problems with unplug [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Hot_plug_cpu
RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?) glance can serve for export/import and can be attached to many DCs/Engine's as well. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On that wiki page I find: "limitations: unplug isn't supported fully due to libvirt's bug #1017858" unfortunately this bug is restricted: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1017858#c11 I get: You are not authorized to access bug #1017858. Maybe this bug can get opened up to the public? Am 25.02.2014 16:29, schrieb Roy Golan:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1
this will not make 3.4. as discussed in the thread on users ml, you could implement as a plugin in 3.4, but the interface is not stable yet, so you'll have to re-adjust it for 3.5.
RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764
that's supposed to be in 3.4? (not for unplug)
On 02/25/2014 12:14 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: please refer to the hotplug cpu wiki [1] for the limitation and problems with unplug [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Hot_plug_cpu
RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297
ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?) glance can serve for export/import and can be attached to many DCs/Engine's as well.
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On 02/25/2014 06:16 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
On that wiki page I find:
"limitations: unplug isn't supported fully due to libvirt's bug #1017858" unfortunately this bug is restricted: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1017858#c11
I get: You are not authorized to access bug #1017858.
Maybe this bug can get opened up to the public? I've asked permission to open it. if it won't get public I will open a dependent one on it.
Am 25.02.2014 16:29, schrieb Roy Golan:
RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote: this will not make 3.4. as discussed in the thread on users ml, you could implement as a plugin in 3.4, but the interface is not stable yet, so you'll have to re-adjust it for 3.5.
RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764 that's supposed to be in 3.4? (not for unplug)
On 02/25/2014 12:14 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: please refer to the hotplug cpu wiki [1] for the limitation and problems with unplug [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Hot_plug_cpu
RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297 ISO domains are shareable today (Across different engines as well?) glance can serve for export/import and can be attached to many DCs/Engine's as well.

On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Sven Kieske" <S.Kieske@mittwald.de>, users@ovirt.org, "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?
The fencing mechanism certainly does not work for local storage domain, It looks like this was neglected since the fencing mechanism was designed to prevent data corruption .. and this use case (single host in DC) we are not worried about it. In first look it looks like an easy implementation - just to add a system wide proxy selection policy, However when thinking on adding this option I can think of a few issues that needs to be discussed first: - Can we assume network connectivity between hosts in different DCs ? - If this is not the case than can/should we enable specific DCs that we know has this connectivity ? Or do we just select a system wide proxy and try to fence ... this might have timeout issues in case there is no connectivity ... and fencing might take a long time to perform. Thanks Barak Azulay

Well that's easy: You can assume network connectivity to all hosts in all dcs from a specific host: the ovirt-engine host has clearly network access to all hosts in all DCs it manages. this might not be appropriate when the engine is run as self-hosted engine. you should at least avoid to fence the host the engine runs on from engine ;) HTH Am 25.02.2014 11:43, schrieb Barak Azulay:
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On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?
The fencing mechanism certainly does not work for local storage domain, It looks like this was neglected since the fencing mechanism was designed to prevent data corruption .. and this use case (single host in DC) we are not worried about it.
In first look it looks like an easy implementation - just to add a system wide proxy selection policy, However when thinking on adding this option I can think of a few issues that needs to be discussed first: - Can we assume network connectivity between hosts in different DCs ? - If this is not the case than can/should we enable specific DCs that we know has this connectivity ?
Or do we just select a system wide proxy and try to fence ... this might have timeout issues in case there is no connectivity ... and fencing might take a long time to perform.
Thanks Barak Azulay
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On 02/25/2014 12:43 PM, Barak Azulay wrote:
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On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?
The fencing mechanism certainly does not work for local storage domain, It looks like this was neglected since the fencing mechanism was designed to prevent data corruption .. and this use case (single host in DC) we are not worried about it.
In first look it looks like an easy implementation - just to add a system wide proxy selection policy, However when thinking on adding this option I can think of a few issues that needs to be discussed first: - Can we assume network connectivity between hosts in different DCs ? - If this is not the case than can/should we enable specific DCs that we know has this connectivity ?
i don't think we have to assume this, just to allow the admin to configure on top of DC and cluster scopes, also an 'any host' scope if applicable for them.
Or do we just select a system wide proxy and try to fence ... this might have timeout issues in case there is no connectivity ... and fencing might take a long time to perform.
Thanks Barak Azulay

Maybe some additional context on the current implementation of power management until ovirt 3.3.3 and local storage dcs: 1. as mentioned below, you can't use it, because you have no fencing host in the cluster. 2. when editing the host via webadmin, ovirt always asks if you do not want to configure power management, which you have to decline. 3. if you configure power management (I don't know why the option is not greyed out when it doesn't do anything) you can't do anything with it: ovirt starts to complain that it can't test power management, because there is no host to test it with. 4. you can't even power off or restart the host via power management from engine, because there is no fencing host! I don't know why you need a fencing host when there is e.g. no vm running on the host you want to power down or restart. So I would at least expect for 3.3.4 or 3.4.1: Either: 1. disable power management in local storage, so ovirt doesn't ask you to configure it, over and over again (annoying!) 2. make it work by adding engine itself or different host in another data center as fencing host. 3. enable sanity check if you need the fencing host for certain situations at all: e.g. you don't need a fencing host in local storage dc with no vms running on a host when you want to power down or reboot the host with the configured power management. I would of course prefer number 2 and 3 and prefer fencing from engine, since you may start with just engine and a single host in a single dc. So you got no other host in another dc to do fencing. For all-in-one: this feature should be disabled completely (I never used all-in-one, so it might already be the case). Thank you for your consideration and time! Am 25.02.2014 11:14, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?
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On 02/25/2014 12:49 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
4. you can't even power off or restart the host via power management from engine, because there is no fencing host! I don't know why you need a fencing host when there is e.g. no vm running on the host you want to power down or restart.
well, someone needs to run the fence script to do the power management operation on the host...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Sven Kieske" <S.Kieske@mittwald.de>, users@ovirt.org, "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
eli - thoughts on above?
1) I had started to check an option of light VDSM only for fencing operations in order to use engine as the proxy for fencing operations, I do not have enough info ATM if that can be part of 3.5 2) Regarding enabling to search for a proxy in other DCs (after searching in cluster & current DC), this is an extension to the current proxy preferences that we can apply for 3.5 3) Regarding local storage DCs, this is related also to BZ 1053434, I tend to hide the PM TAB in Host New/Edit dialog if we have only one DC with local storage, in that case we will not enable do define PM at all and we should also hide the Alerts tab which is relevant only for PM

On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow to configure the timeout for VNC password authentication via webadmin (you can do this via API but not via webadmin). I don't need it, but I guess it would be convenient for many users. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055566
michal - wasn't this an option in the past for manual vnc invocation?

On 25 Feb 2014, at 14:13, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow to configure the timeout for VNC password authentication via webadmin (you can do this via API but not via webadmin). I don't need it, but I guess it would be convenient for many users. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055566
michal - wasn't this an option in the past for manual vnc invocation?
nope. just the API way. I don't find the solution of someone going in manually entering the pwd on some command line as something not really ideal. The .vv should be associated with a script or remote-viewer and then 120s should always be enough to launch it

On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this.
this can only happen after we finish the removal of storage pool aspects (which is currently being worked on)
RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso
what's the use case for detaching an iso domain making this worth while? (it will also kill live migration, or force it to become live storage migration for the iso)

Well, afaik the current workflow is like this: I have iso domain (hosted on NFS server) a, attached to host b. On host b I got vms c,d and e. When I attach an ISO from a to c, the iso gets copied from the NFS server to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID}/.. When I attach the same ISO file from a to d the very same iso file gets copied again to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID_2}/ from the NFS server. This is unnecessary because there is already a copy of the iso in the locale filesystem, so it would be cool if this is stored in a way that multiple vms on the same host can utilize the same iso file without downloading it multiple times. I hope I described the workflow in a correct way. If this is done already I am not aware of it, so please correct me if I'm wrong. An additional side effect would be that you can utilize this locally stored iso files while the NFS server or the ISO Domain is in maintenance mode for some reason. Or if you have a network maintenance for the network path which leads to the ISO Domain. Of course this just works if the host has enough ram or dedicated local storage to store these copies. I know that you can circumvent this, by using a locally created ISO Domain on the host itself. But then you lose the ability of sharing this ISO domain with different DCs, don't you? Am 25.02.2014 14:16, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this.
this can only happen after we finish the removal of storage pool aspects (which is currently being worked on)
RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso
what's the use case for detaching an iso domain making this worth while? (it will also kill live migration, or force it to become live storage migration for the iso)
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On 02/25/2014 03:30 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, afaik the current workflow is like this:
I have iso domain (hosted on NFS server) a, attached to host b.
On host b I got vms c,d and e.
When I attach an ISO from a to c, the iso gets copied from the NFS server to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID}/..
When I attach the same ISO file from a to d the very same iso file gets copied again to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID_2}/ from the NFS server.
linked, not copied?!
This is unnecessary because there is already a copy of the iso in the locale filesystem, so it would be cool if this is stored in a way that multiple vms on the same host can utilize the same iso file without downloading it multiple times.
I hope I described the workflow in a correct way. If this is done already I am not aware of it, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
An additional side effect would be that you can utilize this locally stored iso files while the NFS server or the ISO Domain is in maintenance mode for some reason. Or if you have a network maintenance for the network path which leads to the ISO Domain.
Of course this just works if the host has enough ram or dedicated local storage to store these copies.
I know that you can circumvent this, by using a locally created ISO Domain on the host itself. But then you lose the ability of sharing this ISO domain with different DCs, don't you?
Am 25.02.2014 14:16, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this.
this can only happen after we finish the removal of storage pool aspects (which is currently being worked on)
RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso
what's the use case for detaching an iso domain making this worth while? (it will also kill live migration, or force it to become live storage migration for the iso)

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On 02/25/2014 03:30 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, afaik the current workflow is like this:
I have iso domain (hosted on NFS server) a, attached to host b.
On host b I got vms c,d and e.
When I attach an ISO from a to c, the iso gets copied from the NFS server to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID}/..
When I attach the same ISO file from a to d the very same iso file gets copied again to /var/run/vdsm/payload/{UUID_2}/ from the NFS server.
linked, not copied?!
I think this needs to be stressed to prevent any misunderstanding. There is NO data copy going on, a simple symbolic link is all.
This is unnecessary because there is already a copy of the iso in the locale filesystem, so it would be cool if this is stored in a way that multiple vms on the same host can utilize the same iso file without downloading it multiple times.
I hope I described the workflow in a correct way. If this is done already I am not aware of it, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
An additional side effect would be that you can utilize this locally stored iso files while the NFS server or the ISO Domain is in maintenance mode for some reason. Or if you have a network maintenance for the network path which leads to the ISO Domain.
Of course this just works if the host has enough ram or dedicated local storage to store these copies.
I know that you can circumvent this, by using a locally created ISO Domain on the host itself. But then you lose the ability of sharing this ISO domain with different DCs, don't you?
Am 25.02.2014 14:16, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/25/2014 11:55 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this.
this can only happen after we finish the removal of storage pool aspects (which is currently being worked on)
RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso
what's the use case for detaching an iso domain making this worth while? (it will also kill live migration, or force it to become live storage migration for the iso)
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Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Well I've got a list of bugs I'd like to get fixed and a list of RFEs, some of these might also be viable for 3.3.4 or 3.4.1 instead of 3.5:
Bug: wrong boot order when booting with multiple cd-roms/cloud-init this should be fixable in 3.3.4 or 3.4 but no reply so far. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064927
RFE: Read only user with API access (without LDAP, Kerberos, etc): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067036 If this doesn't make 3.4 it should really be done in 3.5 or 3.4.1
RFE: allow to change the hostname/address ovirt uses to connect to a host (a bug was found while investigating this), this would enclude automatic enrollment of new certificates to the hosts. To follow up on this, it would also be cool to not just support IPv4 but also IPv6 (not yet included in this RFE) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060215
RFE: alternative policy for KSM via MOM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026294
RFE: Allow to configure the timeout for VNC password authentication via webadmin (you can do this via API but not via webadmin). I don't need it, but I guess it would be convenient for many users. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055566
RFE: CPU hotplug (hotunplug would also be very cool!) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036764
RFE: unbundle novnc dependency from ovirt-engine (novnc is currently a hard dependency) so you can install novnc on a different host https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1063236
RFE: Allow multiple local storage domains/ hosts within a cluster with automigration via export domains (vm has to be shut down) I will write a detailed BZ for this.
Being able to move a VM between local domains will be possible through a third (shared) domain once we finish the work on getting rid of the spm (we're actively working on that). I'm guessing that by auto-migrate you're referring to user choosing to move the VM between 2 local domains and the system behind the scenes would use a shared domain to do so? Assuming this is correct, I'd say that is a very complex flow (too many places to fail in the middle and needing to explain to the user what happened). There would be 2 options here: 1. you could automate it through API 2. there is another feature (blocked by the getting rid of spm feature) about being able to *directly* *live* migrate a local VM between 2 nodes. But this of course would require network connectivity.
RFE: temporary copys of iso-images on hosts which get mounted from iso domains into vms, this would allow to detach an iso domain while isos are attached and would also lower network traffic when an iso is attached to multiple vms. I will write a BZ for this later, too.
RFE: Share ISO and Export Domains across DCs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1040297
and last but not least:
RFE] Allow to perform fence operations from engine (or from a host in another DC) the functionality of the current fencing feature is so crippled that it is plain useless in local storage data centers, because you can't use it at all (no other fencing host in cluster)! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778
basically you can search BZ for all bugs that I watch, these are the ones I'm interested the most atm.
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2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
My favourite RFE is already in bugzilla: Enable Hosted Engine Configuration when environment is configured with SAN Storage Backend (iSCSI, FC). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036731 (Thank you Scott Herold) Best regards, Giorgio.

2014-02-25 15:02 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Bersano <giorgio.bersano@gmail.com>:
2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
My favourite RFE is already in bugzilla: Enable Hosted Engine Configuration when environment is configured with SAN Storage Backend (iSCSI, FC). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036731 (Thank you Scott Herold)
Maybe this one is even more important: the ability to import a Storage Domain http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ImportStorageDomain . Best regards, Giorgio.

Le 25/02/2014 15:13, Giorgio Bersano a écrit :
2014-02-25 15:02 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Bersano <giorgio.bersano@gmail.com>:
2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
My favourite RFE is already in bugzilla: Enable Hosted Engine Configuration when environment is configured with SAN Storage Backend (iSCSI, FC). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1036731 (Thank you Scott Herold)
Maybe this one is even more important: the ability to import a Storage Domain http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ImportStorageDomain .
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2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Signed rpms as in: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/019627.html and the mentioned ticket inside Dan answer: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/99 Hopefully in 3.4 too... ;-) Gianluca

Il 25/02/2014 15:39, Gianluca Cecchi ha scritto:
2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Signed rpms as in: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/019627.html and the mentioned ticket inside Dan answer: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/99
Hopefully in 3.4 too... ;-)
We're already working on it, I hope we'll have 3.4.0 rpm signed.
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2014-02-25 15:39 GMT+01:00 Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com>:
2014-02-24 17:59 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Signed rpms as in: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/019627.html and the mentioned ticket inside Dan answer: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/99
+1
Hopefully in 3.4 too... ;-)
+1

Am 25.02.2014 15:13, schrieb Giorgio Bersano:
Maybe this one is even more important: the ability to import a Storage Domain http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ImportStorageDomain .
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On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
2) Better handling of translation bugs
There seems to be no clear way of how one can get bugfixes for translation typos into OVirt webadmin. Bugzilla (at least in my case) shows no real progress for RFEs.
easiest would be to submit a patch for typos - english or other translations. einav can provide more guidance on how to do this.

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On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
2) Better handling of translation bugs
There seems to be no clear way of how one can get bugfixes for translation typos into OVirt webadmin. Bugzilla (at least in my case) shows no real progress for RFEs.
easiest would be to submit a patch for typos - english or other translations. einav can provide more guidance on how to do this.
for fixing typos in English - feel free to submit a patch. do NOT submit patches for fixing typos in non-English strings - non-English strings are managed via the Zanata translation system. for fixing typos in non-English strings - you will need to become a translator of the 'oVirt' project in Zanata [1]; you can also just report the typo in BZ - make sure to mention the problematic locale and mark the BZ with the 'i18n' Whiteboard. [1] see https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/, "Translators" section for details. oVirt project is in: https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/ovirt
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On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
3) Shared console access for two or more administrators
michal - is this just a config in the .vv file? I'd expect qemu needs to support this as well? especially since the ticketing mechanism is designed to disconnect previous user?

On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
3) Shared console access for two or more administrators
michal - is this just a config in the .vv file? I'd expect qemu needs to support this as well? especially since the ticketing mechanism is designed to disconnect previous user?
+1. Would like to be able to make it available to power users as well. And another minor cleanup on the admin gui, it’d be nice if the %memory graphic had a mouse over for “% of what” as well, maybe similar for %CPU & %network. Thinking mouseovers so as not to take more real estate or clutter the columns any more. -Darrell

On Feb 25, 2014, at 20:38 , Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
3) Shared console access for two or more administrators
michal - is this just a config in the .vv file? I'd expect qemu needs to support this as well? especially since the ticketing mechanism is designed to disconnect previous user?
last time I remember the concurrent connection to SPICE was experimental Did it change since? yes, if it is supported now the oVirt ticketing would need to be changed or disabled Thanks, michal

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Well, as I mentioned in the BZ: Shared access does work for novnc console, maybe this is good enough for your needs? Am 26.02.2014 09:09, schrieb Markus Stockhausen:
Von: Michal Skrivanek [mskrivan@redhat.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2014 08:49 An: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Markus Stockhausen; Itamar Heim; Users@ovirt.org Users Betreff: concurrent SPICE access [was: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning]
On Feb 25, 2014, at 20:38 , Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
> 3) Shared console access for two or more administrators > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060854
michal - is this just a config in the .vv file? I'd expect qemu needs to support this as well? especially since the ticketing mechanism is designed to disconnect previous user?
last time I remember the concurrent connection to SPICE was experimental Did it change since?
yes, if it is supported now the oVirt ticketing would need to be changed or disabled
Thanks, michal The request was created to allow a general shared access pattern (independent of the console type). In the SPICE case QEMU still spits the message "enable shared spice: ... crashy ..." At the moment both console types lack shared sessions because of:
- VNC: Virt-Viewer opens the connection with exclusive access (qemu token disconnect does not work at all) - SPICE: Ovirt/libvirt do not instruct qemu to enable shared access & token generation enforces disconnect
The idea behind it, is to have a check-button on the console settings page that enables/disables shared access. At least vor VNC.
Markus
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On 02/26/2014 11:07 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, as I mentioned in the BZ:
Shared access does work for novnc console, maybe this is good enough for your needs?
how does it work wrt to the ticketing mechanism?
Am 26.02.2014 09:09, schrieb Markus Stockhausen:
Von: Michal Skrivanek [mskrivan@redhat.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2014 08:49 An: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Markus Stockhausen; Itamar Heim; Users@ovirt.org Users Betreff: concurrent SPICE access [was: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning]
On Feb 25, 2014, at 20:38 , Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/25/2014 09:20 PM, Markus Stockhausen wrote: >> 3) Shared console access for two or more administrators >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060854
michal - is this just a config in the .vv file? I'd expect qemu needs to support this as well? especially since the ticketing mechanism is designed to disconnect previous user?
last time I remember the concurrent connection to SPICE was experimental Did it change since?
yes, if it is supported now the oVirt ticketing would need to be changed or disabled
Thanks, michal The request was created to allow a general shared access pattern (independent of the console type). In the SPICE case QEMU still spits the message "enable shared spice: ... crashy ..." At the moment both console types lack shared sessions because of:
- VNC: Virt-Viewer opens the connection with exclusive access (qemu token disconnect does not work at all) - SPICE: Ovirt/libvirt do not instruct qemu to enable shared access & token generation enforces disconnect
The idea behind it, is to have a check-button on the console settings page that enables/disables shared access. At least vor VNC.
Markus

Well, you generate a separate ticket to the same vm. resulting in another vnc-session to the server, but the input/output is shared, you can see in real time when the other user types etc. Am 26.02.2014 14:15, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/26/2014 11:07 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, as I mentioned in the BZ:
Shared access does work for novnc console, maybe this is good enough for your needs?
how does it work wrt to the ticketing mechanism?
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On 02/27/2014 10:51 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, you generate a separate ticket to the same vm. resulting in another vnc-session to the server, but the input/output is shared, you can see in real time when the other user types etc.
iirc, the ticketing mechanism works in a way that a new ticket disconnects the previous session?
Am 26.02.2014 14:15, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/26/2014 11:07 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, as I mentioned in the BZ:
Shared access does work for novnc console, maybe this is good enough for your needs?
how does it work wrt to the ticketing mechanism?

On 02/27/2014 10:52 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/27/2014 10:51 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, you generate a separate ticket to the same vm. resulting in another vnc-session to the server, but the input/output is shared, you can see in real time when the other user types etc.
iirc, the ticketing mechanism works in a way that a new ticket disconnects the previous session?
(on connection with the new ticket)
Am 26.02.2014 14:15, schrieb Itamar Heim:
On 02/26/2014 11:07 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, as I mentioned in the BZ:
Shared access does work for novnc console, maybe this is good enough for your needs?
how does it work wrt to the ticketing mechanism?
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On 02/27/2014 10:51 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:=0A=
Well, you generate a separate ticket to the same vm.=0A= resulting in another vnc-session to the server, but the input/output= =0A= is shared, you can see in real time when the other user types etc.=0A= =0A= iirc, the ticketing mechanism works in a way that a new ticket=0A= disconnects the previous session?=0A= =0A= (on connection with the new ticket)=0A= =0A= In the VNC case this does not work. I do not know if its by design or=0A= just a bug/feature. Either Ovirt does not instruct libvirt to create a new= =0A= VNC ticket with option "disconnect all connected clients" or this =0A= information is not correctly interpreted by qemu.=0A= =0A= If you launch a client that initiates a shared connection to the console = =0A=
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:19 , Markus Stockhausen <stockhausen@collogia.de> wrote:
Von: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org]" im Auftrag von "Itamar Heim [iheim@redhat.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2014 09:53 An: Sven Kieske; users@ovirt.org Betreff: Re: [Users] concurrent SPICE access [was: Re: oVirt 3.5 planning]
On 02/27/2014 10:52 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/27/2014 10:51 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Well, you generate a separate ticket to the same vm. resulting in another vnc-session to the server, but the input/output is shared, you can see in real time when the other user types etc.
iirc, the ticketing mechanism works in a way that a new ticket disconnects the previous session?
(on connection with the new ticket)
In the VNC case this does not work. I do not know if its by design or just a bug/feature. Either Ovirt does not instruct libvirt to create a new VNC ticket with option "disconnect all connected clients" or this information is not correctly interpreted by qemu.
well, sort of both. We keep the QEMU/libvirt default which is to honor client's request. Which is in case of novnc by default "shared", other common clients like vncviewer default to "disconnect" I wonder if anyone is using the shared behavior or we should disallow it. Or make it optional, which is nice but as always comes with a price of development time.
If you launch a client that initiates a shared connection to the console then existing connections will stay open. This magically works if you use the novnc client (as Sven explained).
The only thing that prevents a concurrent access to the console with virt-viewer is the fact that it enforces a single VNC connection.
yes
So state is as follows:
SPICE: disconnect happens during ticket creation
It's on connection as well, it just can't be controlled (not that it matters:) Thanks, michal
VNC: disconnect may happen during client connection
You can check that behaviour if you associate a .VV file with a text editor. With SPICE the existing console connection is terminated just before the .VV file opens in the editor. With VNC the existing session stays open.
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On 02/27/2014 02:30 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
well, sort of both. We keep the QEMU/libvirt default which is to honor client's request. Which is in case of novnc by default "shared", other common clients like vncviewer default to "disconnect"
I wonder if anyone is using the shared behavior or we should disallow it. Or make it optional, which is nice but as always comes with a price of development time.
default should be to dis-allow it, seems there is a use case to let admin set a VM console setting to shared though.

I just tested it again via the implemented novnc solution in ovirt 3.3.3-2 el6. Steps to reproduce: 1. Make a vm accessible via novnc 2. click the console button in webadmin 3. a new browser window appears 4. click the console button again 5. a new browser window appears. 6. put the windows side by side, then type in some words in a shell in window 1 and watch the words also appear in window 2. I don't know if this is a bug, as far as I understand websocketproxy and novnc there is no way how the websocketproxy could now about existing sessions as it forks a subprocess per each session, so it must keep a database or similar to track which session is which subprocess. but even this wouldn't work as the websocketproxy just makes the connection to the compute node hosting the vm, the websocketproxy does not now to which vm you connect (afaik). Is this a bug or a feature? Try it yourself. Am 27.02.2014 09:52, schrieb Itamar Heim:
iirc, the ticketing mechanism works in a way that a new ticket disconnects the previous session?
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From: "Markus Stockhausen" <stockhausen@collogia.de> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:20:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
Von: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org]" im Auftrag von "Itamar Heim [iheim@redhat.com] Gesendet: Montag, 24. Februar 2014 17:59 An: users@ovirt.org Betreff: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
1) Webadmin cleanups. Several places provide too many informations that make them feel overloaded. Columns that one usually does not care about in the daily administration.
- main VM disk overview includes column with UUIDs - VM overview includes column with display type (SPICE/VNC) - VM overview includes additional status column (text: up/down) - hosts overview includes host name/ip column
+1 We have talked of revisiting what gets displayed by default before too and also worked on a column selector that would allow users to display these other attributes when they feel it is necessary. Together, it may help address the information overload issue you are talking about. Can you and/or anyone else in the community continue the list you started here and identify the columns that are not useful to you in the various list views in Ovirt? I will be happy to compile them and then consolidate it after doing the pertinent analysis and reporting it back to you all for feedback. thanks Malini

On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 15:26 -0500, Malini Rao wrote:
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From: "Markus Stockhausen" <stockhausen@collogia.de> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:20:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
Von: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org]" im Auftrag von "Itamar Heim [iheim@redhat.com] Gesendet: Montag, 24. Februar 2014 17:59 An: users@ovirt.org Betreff: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
1) Webadmin cleanups. Several places provide too many informations that make them feel overloaded. Columns that one usually does not care about in the daily administration.
- main VM disk overview includes column with UUIDs - VM overview includes column with display type (SPICE/VNC) - VM overview includes additional status column (text: up/down) - hosts overview includes host name/ip column
+1 We have talked of revisiting what gets displayed by default before too and also worked on a column selector that would allow users to display these other attributes when they feel it is necessary. Together, it may help address the information overload issue you are talking about. Can you and/or anyone else in the community continue the list you started here and identify the columns that are not useful to you in the various list views in Ovirt? I will be happy to compile them and then consolidate it after doing the pertinent analysis and reporting it back to you all for feedback.
thanks Malini
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Yes, making all columns something you can choose what gets displayed (with a couple of them chosen by default) would really solve this whole issue of folks getting annoyed because of column X Y Z being uninteresting for them. Also, this should be done for all main tabs, not just VMs. Tall order, but would be a really nice feature. Also cool would be to be able to sort columns ascending/descending. When this gets implemented, something to consider would also be that if a column is deselected, that information really won´t be loaded either. So it´s not just a cosmetical fix (if everything gets loaded like usual, just not displayed), but would also help "speed" up the webadmin as well. So if you only choose to show the "Name" column, only this information gets loaded from engine, so it takes the shortest amount of time to present. The more columns you choose, the more information you get, but takes longer to present. Does that make sense? -- Med Vänliga Hälsningar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karli Sjöberg Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 karli.sjoberg@slu.se

While I agree that webadmin is cluttered today, I disagree about your cleanup options. I find it quite helpful to have the UUID of vms and their disks in the overview. also I like to directly see the hostname/ip Am 25.02.2014 20:20, schrieb Markus Stockhausen:
1) Webadmin cleanups. Several places provide too many informations that make them feel overloaded. Columns that one usually does not care about in the daily administration.
- main VM disk overview includes column with UUIDs - VM overview includes column with display type (SPICE/VNC) - VM overview includes additional status column (text: up/down) - hosts overview includes host name/ip column
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From: "Sven Kieske" <S.Kieske@mittwald.de> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:15:54 AM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
While I agree that webadmin is cluttered today, I disagree about your cleanup options.
I find it quite helpful to have the UUID of vms and their disks in the overview. also I like to directly see the hostname/ip
Since as we see here a useless column for one may be useful for other, I think that the requirement here is a customized column display where you can show/hide columns
Am 25.02.2014 20:20, schrieb Markus Stockhausen:
1) Webadmin cleanups. Several places provide too many informations that make them feel overloaded. Columns that one usually does not care about in the daily administration.
- main VM disk overview includes column with UUIDs - VM overview includes column with display type (SPICE/VNC) - VM overview includes additional status column (text: up/down) - hosts overview includes host name/ip column
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+1 ! this would be great! Am 26.02.2014 09:32, schrieb Eli Mesika:
Since as we see here a useless column for one may be useful for other, I think that the requirement here is a customized column display where you can show/hide columns
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Ability to import regular KVM images, either via command line or web gui... +1 on the uploading of ISO via web GUI. Jon On 24/02/14 16:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
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+1 on everything that Jon Archer said Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christianh@4over.com <mailto:christianh@4over.com> www.4over.com <http://www.4over.com> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Jon Archer <jon@rosslug.org.uk> wrote:
Ability to import regular KVM images, either via command line or web gui...
+1 on the uploading of ISO via web GUI.
Jon
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Admin portal: customize columns: memory, cpus, disks and sorting would be very welcome. If this info would be visible in sub-tabs like hosts tab and its VMs view, that would be awesome. -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman --------------010802030701090703030304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:530B7A68.3080604@redhat.com" type="cite">with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... <br> </blockquote> <br> Admin portal: customize columns: memory, cpus, disks and sorting would be very welcome. If this info would be visible in sub-tabs like hosts tab and its VMs view, that would be awesome.<br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </body> </html> --------------010802030701090703030304--

+1 for redesign admin portal. In RHEV we have a tab Events & Monitor. Events holds the list of events, but in a view that is a lot easier. Would be nice to have. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Ernest Beinrohr <Ernest.Beinrohr@axonpro.sk
wrote:
Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Admin portal: customize columns: memory, cpus, disks and sorting would be very welcome. If this info would be visible in sub-tabs like hosts tab and its VMs view, that would be awesome.
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Le 24/02/2014 17:59, Itamar Heim a écrit :
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Hi, I don't know how to name it, but would it be that complex to be able to switch the "master" role from one storage domain to another (of the same type). That would allow changing from a LUN to a wider one, or to do maintenance actions on it. -- Nicolas Ecarnot

On 02/26/2014 03:15 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote:
Le 24/02/2014 17:59, Itamar Heim a écrit :
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Hi,
I don't know how to name it, but would it be that complex to be able to switch the "master" role from one storage domain to another (of the same type). That would allow changing from a LUN to a wider one, or to do maintenance actions on it.
sorry, we are working very hard to eliminate the concept of a master storage domain altogether... ;)

Le 26/02/2014 14:17, Itamar Heim a écrit :
On 02/26/2014 03:15 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote:
Le 24/02/2014 17:59, Itamar Heim a écrit :
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi,
I don't know how to name it, but would it be that complex to be able to switch the "master" role from one storage domain to another (of the same type). That would allow changing from a LUN to a wider one, or to do maintenance actions on it.
sorry, we are working very hard to eliminate the concept of a master storage domain altogether... ;)
Don't be sorry, this is the best news since long :) -- Nicolas Ecarnot

There are users that would like to tell how much traffic each vnic of each VM has consumed in a period of time. Currently, we report only bitrate as a percetage of an estimated vnic "speed". Integrating this value over time is inefficent and error prone. I suggest to have all the stack (Vdsm, Engine, dwh) report the actually-trasmitted (and actually-received) byte count on each vnic, as well as the time when the sample was taken. Currently, Vdsm reports 'eth0': {'rxDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'rxRate': '8.0', 'speed': '1000', 'state': 'up', 'txDropped': '0', 'txErrors': '0', 'txRate': '10.0'}, but it should add rxKiBytes, txKiBytes and time to the frill. GUI could still calculate the rate for illustration, based on the raw trasmission and the sample time. Until we break backward compatibility, we'd keep reporting the flaky rxRate/txRate, too. I can think of only two problems with this approach: Linux byte counters would eventually reset when they overflow. This is currently hidden by Vdsm, but with the suggested change, would have to be handled by higher levels of the stack. A similar problem appears on migration: the counters would reset and Engine would need to know how to keep up the accounting properly. I've opened Bug 1066570 - [RFE] Report actual rx_byte instead of a false rxRate to track this request of mine.

+1 This would be very useful! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

Dan, How about storing the rx_byte per 5 minutes in the engine DB? That way a reset of the counters has a minimal impact and analytics as "traffic for VM x in month Y" could be made. Another approach could be to have iptables keep the count? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> wrote:
There are users that would like to tell how much traffic each vnic of each VM has consumed in a period of time. Currently, we report only bitrate as a percetage of an estimated vnic "speed". Integrating this value over time is inefficent and error prone.
I suggest to have all the stack (Vdsm, Engine, dwh) report the actually-trasmitted (and actually-received) byte count on each vnic, as well as the time when the sample was taken.
Currently, Vdsm reports
'eth0': {'rxDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'rxRate': '8.0', 'speed': '1000', 'state': 'up', 'txDropped': '0', 'txErrors': '0', 'txRate': '10.0'},
but it should add rxKiBytes, txKiBytes and time to the frill.
GUI could still calculate the rate for illustration, based on the raw trasmission and the sample time.
Until we break backward compatibility, we'd keep reporting the flaky rxRate/txRate, too.
I can think of only two problems with this approach: Linux byte counters would eventually reset when they overflow. This is currently hidden by Vdsm, but with the suggested change, would have to be handled by higher levels of the stack.
A similar problem appears on migration: the counters would reset and Engine would need to know how to keep up the accounting properly.
I've opened
Bug 1066570 - [RFE] Report actual rx_byte instead of a false rxRate
to track this request of mine. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 02:14:32PM +0100, Johan Kooijman wrote:
Dan,
How about storing the rx_byte per 5 minutes in the engine DB? That way a reset of the counters has a minimal impact and analytics as "traffic for VM x in month Y" could be made.
Another approach could be to have iptables keep the count?
I do not see how iptables can help here. On the host, Vdsm reports how much traffic did VM x consume. However, when the VM is migrated to another host, the accounting at the destination are reset. If Engine simply copied the value, you can start month Y with 10GiB of traffic, and end it with 7KiB. This should be solved by Engine, probably by "banking" the Vdsm-reported values on certain occasions (vm shutdown, migration, counter reset), and exposing only the accumulated result. Dan.

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:03:55PM +0000, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
There are users that would like to tell how much traffic each vnic of each VM has consumed in a period of time. Currently, we report only bitrate as a percetage of an estimated vnic "speed". Integrating this value over time is inefficent and error prone.
I suggest to have all the stack (Vdsm, Engine, dwh) report the actually-trasmitted (and actually-received) byte count on each vnic, as well as the time when the sample was taken.
Currently, Vdsm reports
'eth0': {'rxDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'rxRate': '8.0', 'speed': '1000', 'state': 'up', 'txDropped': '0', 'txErrors': '0', 'txRate': '10.0'},
but it should add rxKiBytes, txKiBytes and time to the frill.
GUI could still calculate the rate for illustration, based on the raw trasmission and the sample time.
Until we break backward compatibility, we'd keep reporting the flaky rxRate/txRate, too.
I can think of only two problems with this approach: Linux byte counters would eventually reset when they overflow. This is currently hidden by Vdsm, but with the suggested change, would have to be handled by higher levels of the stack.
A similar problem appears on migration: the counters would reset and Engine would need to know how to keep up the accounting properly.
I've opened
Bug 1066570 - [RFE] Report actual rx_byte instead of a false rxRate
to track this request of mine.
For the reconrd, I'm told that there is a very similar need for reporting accumulated guest CPU cycle IO operations consuption. Martin, do we already have BZs for the other two use cases?

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:03:55PM +0000, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
There are users that would like to tell how much traffic each vnic of each VM has consumed in a period of time. Currently, we report only bitrate as a percetage of an estimated vnic "speed". Integrating this value over time is inefficent and error prone.
I suggest to have all the stack (Vdsm, Engine, dwh) report the actually-trasmitted (and actually-received) byte count on each vnic, as well as the time when the sample was taken.
Currently, Vdsm reports
'eth0': {'rxDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'rxRate': '8.0', 'speed': '1000', 'state': 'up', 'txDropped': '0', 'txErrors': '0', 'txRate': '10.0'},
but it should add rxKiBytes, txKiBytes and time to the frill.
GUI could still calculate the rate for illustration, based on the raw trasmission and the sample time.
Until we break backward compatibility, we'd keep reporting the flaky rxRate/txRate, too.
I can think of only two problems with this approach: Linux byte counters would eventually reset when they overflow. This is currently hidden by Vdsm, but with the suggested change, would have to be handled by higher levels of the stack.
A similar problem appears on migration: the counters would reset and Engine would need to know how to keep up the accounting properly.
I've opened
Bug 1066570 - [RFE] Report actual rx_byte instead of a false rxRate
to track this request of mine.
For the reconrd, I'm told that there is a very similar need for reporting accumulated guest CPU cycle IO operations consuption. Martin, do we already have BZs for the other two use cases?
No. Please open an RFE for ovirt on these use cases. Thanks, Doron

Hi, On 02/24/2014 05:59 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Here's my wish list :) - Cloning of vms VMs without templates (of is this already implemented)? - Enable host updates through engine (yum update via oVirt engine) - Integrate v2v into oVirt engine - hosted engine with iSCSI/FC/GlusterFS support - ISO and export domain on FC/iSCSI/GlusterFS would be nice ISO domain on GlusterFS using POSIXFS domain doesn't work for me in oVirt 3.4 - Central Repository for oVirt guest agents Atm packages are available for Debian, SLES, RHEL/CentOS, Fedora but there are different sources and users have to know where to find the guest tools. So would love to see e.g. http://resources.ovirt.org/guest-agents/{ubuntu,debian,opensuse,...} Windows needs to be created manually as described here http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Guest_Agent_For_Windows, right? I could provide repositories for guest agent in a central point and also Windows guest agent packages if you don't plan to do it on ovirt.org as I have to required infrastructure (OBS with multiple distributions in it) on our side. - RHEV guest tools APT (Application Provisioning Tool) for Windows ported to oVirt This makes it easier to update guest tools on Windows... - Upload ISOs thorugh oVirt engine gui - Use existing share for ISO domain When creating an ISO domain, oVirt creates it's own directory structure with IDs. It would be nice if an existing share could be used (e.g. an ISO share on NFS server which is used by other service, too) without creating the structure with IDs. I know that the IDs are needed internally but I think it should be possible to reuse an existing share. - Signed RPMs gpgcheck=0 is really ugly... - NFS options for storage domains It would be great if I can change NFS options like e.g. mountproto=tcp for NFS storage domains. Regards, René
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From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:59:20 PM Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
I was wondering whether people would like vdsm hooks to be reported (which they already are) to the engine and that the engine would take that information (that should be a bit enriched). With the enriched information it would automatically add the custom properties advertised by all the hooks of its hosts without the need to go to the command line database to enable them Optionally it would just populate a hooks tab with enable/disable checkboxes.
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070201080202060302060002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dn(a 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Please add the possibility to modify description and other minor info for VM, disk, storage even when they are running. thanks -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman --------------070201080202060302060002 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:530B7A68.3080604@redhat.com" type="cite">with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> Please add the possibility to modify description and other minor info for VM, disk, storage even when they are running.<br> <br> thanks<br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" height="1" border="0" width="1"> </body> </html> --------------070201080202060302060002--

On 03/17/2014 03:28 PM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote:
Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Please add the possibility to modify description and other minor info for VM, disk, storage even when they are running.
omer - any reason these cannot be changed?

Hi, Currently we have some small server clusters that have only two storage nodes with iSCSI. I would like to use Gluster bricks for them but I'm a bit worried about quorum and split-brain. Would it be an idea to make ovirt a Gluster quorum arbiter? The ovirt engine is managing the virtual datacenter and could easily be the deciding factor when a 2 brick gluster loses one of the bricks. http://hekafs.org/index.php/2012/11/different-forms-of-quorum/ The second issue is trickier. What should we do when N=2? In some cases, allowing a single failure to make a volume read-only (the current behavior) is fine. In others it’s not. One idea would be to “promote” from all bricks/servers in a replica set to all in a volume to all in the cluster. Unfortunately, that gets us nowhere in a two-server two-brick cluster, which is very common especially in the critical case of people trying GlusterFS for the first time and seeing how it responds to failures. The other idea is arbiter nodes, which hold no data but pump up the quorum number for the cluster (or for a volume if that’s how we’re counting). Thus, if we have a volume on two nodes in a cluster with more than two, a third node will be (automatically?) designated as having an interest in that volume so that the effective quorum is two out of three. Since tracking servers’ interests in volumes will already have to be part of the second patch I’ve mentioned, adding an arbiter is just a simple matter of manipulating that information so it should be a pretty straightforward third patch. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae

Hi, When I used VMWare workstation many years ago, one of the features I couldn't live without was the layered snapshots. When testing it was extremely productive to have multiple branches of snapshots of the VM and I could revert to any point. https://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/img/l_snapshot_manager.png

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From: "Jorick Astrego" <j.astrego@netbulae.eu> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:33:30 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
Hi,
When I used VMWare workstation many years ago, one of the features I couldn't live without was the layered snapshots. When testing it was extremely productive to have multiple branches of snapshots of the VM and I could revert to any point. I agree. The "snapshots" should be a tree and not a stack. When you "review" a snapshot, you should be able to choose, in addition to 'commit' (forget all the newer ones) and 'undo', also something like 'branch' (just keep everything).
Note that this is partially possible today by cloning a snapshot (to a VM) but imo is much less comfortable. -- Didi ------=_Part_1660903_1497308434.1395140564771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div></div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jorick Astrego" <j.astrego@netbulae.eu><br><b>To: </b>users@ovirt.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:33:30 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning<br><div><br></div> Hi,<br><br> When I used VMWare workstation many years ago, one of the features I couldn't live without was the layered snapshots. When testing it was extremely productive to have multiple branches of snapshots of the VM and I could revert to any point.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree. The "snapshots" should be a tree and not a stack. When you "review" a snapshot, you should be able to choose, in addition to 'commit' (forget all the newer ones) and 'undo', also something like 'branch' (just keep everything).</div><div><br></div><div>Note that this is partially possible today by cloning a snapshot (to a VM) but imo is much less comfortable.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">-- </span></div><div><span name="x"></span>Didi<br><span name="x"></span><br></div></div></body></html> ------=_Part_1660903_1497308434.1395140564771--

----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Ernest Beinrohr" <Ernest.Beinrohr@axonpro.sk>, users@ovirt.org, "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:48:11 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 03/17/2014 03:28 PM, Ernest Beinrohr wrote:
Dňa 24.02.2014 17:59, Itamar Heim wrote / napísal(a):
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Please add the possibility to modify description and other minor info for VM, disk, storage even when they are running.
omer - any reason these cannot be changed?
vm description is editable already, no reason for disks not to allow as well. please note that we are looking on making everything editable on the run, even stuff that can be applied only on next run (like memory): http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Edit_Running_VM

Another thing I miss in oVirt is a way to assign a dedicated passthrough NIC. I have some customers who would like to dedicated NIC's assigned to their vm's. Currently we have bare metal KVM servers running for this but HA and management is not so efficient. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V.

On 03/18/2014 04:18 PM, Jorick Astrego wrote:
Another thing I miss in oVirt is a way to assign a dedicated passthrough NIC.
I have some customers who would like to dedicated NIC's assigned to their vm's.
Currently we have bare metal KVM servers running for this but HA and management is not so efficient.
you should be able to do this today with vdsm hooks? http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=vdsm.git;a=tree;f=vdsm_hooks;
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc. Thanks

Am 18.03.2014 13:24, schrieb Federico Alberto Sayd:
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc.
Some kind of progress indication would indeed be very cool! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

On Mar 18, 2014, at 13:30 , Sven Kieske <S.Kieske@mittwald.de> wrote:
Am 18.03.2014 13:24, schrieb Federico Alberto Sayd:
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc.
Some kind of progress indication would indeed be very cool!
the live migration will hopefully make it for 3.5
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
Sven Kieske
Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070609010005080400040505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dn(a 18.03.2014 13:24, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote / napísal(a):
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc.
I needed this a long time ago, so i hacked this together. You shoud run it on the SPM host. Also, i only use iscsi storage. #!/bin/bash SECS=1 PROC=${1:-"qemu-img"} PID=`pidof $PROC` if [ "x$PID" == "x" ] then echo "No $PROC running" exit 1 fi LV=$(ls -l /dev/mapper/ | grep `ls -l /proc/$PID/fd/|grep dm- | cut -f 3 -d/ | head -n1` | gawk '{print $9}' | sed -e 's/--/XX/g' -e 's/-/\//g' -e 's/XX/-/g' -e 's/^/\/dev\//g') SIZE=$(/sbin/lvs --noheadings --unquoted --options lv_size --units b $LV | sed -e 's/B//g' ) LAST=0 while [[ -e /proc/$PID/fd/ ]] ; do CUR=$(grep rchar /proc/$PID/io | cut -f 2 -d " ") PERC=$(echo $CUR*100/$SIZE | bc) SPEED=$(echo \($CUR-$LAST\)/1024/1024 | bc) SIZE2=$(echo $SIZE / 1024 / 1024 / 1024| bc) echo "$SIZE2 GB / $CUR B [$PERC%] - $SPEED MB/s" sleep $SECS; LAST=$CUR done -- Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing <http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php>, RHCE <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, RHCVA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php>, LPIC <http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php>, VCA <http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php>, +421-2--6241-0360 <callto://+421-2--6241-0360>, +421-903--482-603 <callto://+421-903--482-603> icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk, jabber:oernii@jabber.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman --------------070609010005080400040505 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dňa 18.03.2014 13:24, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote / napísal(a):<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:53283AF4.1050500@uncu.edu.ar" type="cite">On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... <br> <br> </blockquote> Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc. <br> </blockquote> <br> I needed this a long time ago, so i hacked this together. You shoud run it on the SPM host. Also, i only use iscsi storage.<br> <br> <tt><br> </tt><tt>#!/bin/bash</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>SECS=1</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>PROC=${1:-"qemu-img"}</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>PID=`pidof $PROC`</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>if [ "x$PID" == "x" ]</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>then</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> echo "No $PROC running"</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> exit 1</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>fi</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>LV=$(ls -l /dev/mapper/ | grep `ls -l /proc/$PID/fd/|grep dm- | cut -f 3 -d/ | head -n1` | gawk '{print $9}' | sed -e 's/--/XX/g' -e 's/-/\//g' -e 's/XX/-/g' -e 's/^/\/dev\//g')</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>SIZE=$(/sbin/lvs --noheadings --unquoted --options lv_size --units b $LV | sed -e 's/B//g' )</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>LAST=0</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>while [[ -e /proc/$PID/fd/ ]] ;</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>do</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> CUR=$(grep rchar /proc/$PID/io | cut -f 2 -d " ")</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> PERC=$(echo $CUR*100/$SIZE | bc)</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> SPEED=$(echo \($CUR-$LAST\)/1024/1024 | bc)</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> SIZE2=$(echo $SIZE / 1024 / 1024 / 1024| bc)</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> echo "$SIZE2 GB / $CUR B [$PERC%] - $SPEED MB/s"</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> sleep $SECS;</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt> LAST=$CUR</tt><tt><br> </tt><tt>done</tt><br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <div id="oernii_footer" style="color: gray;"> <span style="font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/ing.php">Ing</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCE</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php">RHCVA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.php">LPIC</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="http://www.beinrohr.sk/vca.php">VCA</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-2--6241-0360">+421-2--6241-0360</a>, <a style="text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href="callto://+421-903--482-603">+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jabber:oernii@jabber.org">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style="height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style="font-size: 70%;"> “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” Richard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img src="http://nojsstats.appspot.com/UA-44497096-1/email.beinrohr.sk" moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </body> </html> --------------070609010005080400040505--

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D=C5=88a 18.03.2014 13:24, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote / nap=C3=ADsal(a):
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote: =20
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... =20 =20
Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc. =20
I needed this a long time ago, so i hacked this together. You shoud run it on the SPM host. Also, i only use iscsi storage.
#!/bin/bash
SECS=3D1 PROC=3D${1:-"qemu-img"} PID=3D`pidof $PROC`
if [ "x$PID" =3D=3D "x" ] then echo "No $PROC running" exit 1 fi
LV=3D$(ls -l /dev/mapper/ | grep `ls -l /proc/$PID/fd/|grep dm- | cut -f 3 -d/ | head -n1` | gawk '{print $9}' | sed -e 's/--/XX/g' -e 's/-/\//g' -e 's/XX/-/g' -e 's/^/\/dev\//g')
SIZE=3D$(/sbin/lvs --noheadings --unquoted --options lv_size --units b $LV | sed -e 's/B//g' )
LAST=3D0 while [[ -e /proc/$PID/fd/ ]] ; do CUR=3D$(grep rchar /proc/$PID/io | cut -f 2 -d " ") PERC=3D$(echo $CUR*100/$SIZE | bc) SPEED=3D$(echo \($CUR-$LAST\)/1024/1024 | bc) SIZE2=3D$(echo $SIZE / 1024 / 1024 / 1024| bc) echo "$SIZE2 GB / $CUR B [$PERC%] - $SPEED MB/s" sleep $SECS; LAST=3D$CUR done
--
Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO Ing , RHCE , RHCVA , LPIC , VCA , +421-2--6241-0360 , +421-903--482-603 icq:28153343, gtalk: oernii@axonpro.sk , jabber:oernii@jabber.org
=E2=80=9CFor a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.=E2=80=9D Richard Feynman _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
<br> </tt><tt>done</tt><br> <br> <div class=3D"moz-signature">-- <br> <div id=3D"oernii_footer" style=3D"color: gray;"> <span style=3D"font-family: Lucida Console, Luxi Mono, Courier, monospace; font-size: 90%;"> Ernest Beinrohr, AXON PRO<br> <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href=3D"http://w= ww.beinrohr.sk/ing.php" target=3D"_blank">Ing</a>, <a style=3D"text-decorat= ion: none; color: gray;" href=3D"http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php" target=3D= "_blank">RHCE</a>, <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href=3D= "http://www.beinrohr.sk/rhce.php" target=3D"_blank">RHCVA</a>, <a style=3D"= text-decoration: none; color: gray;" href=3D"http://www.beinrohr.sk/lpic.ph=
+421-903--482-603</a><br> icq:28153343, gtalk: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href= =3D"mailto:oernii@axonpro.sk" target=3D"_blank">oernii@axonpro.sk</a>, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:jabber:oerni= i@jabber.org" target=3D"_blank">jabber:oernii@jabber.org</a> <br> </span> <hr style=3D"height: 1px; width: 95%"> <span style=3D"font-size: 70%;"> =E2=80=9CFor a successful technology, reality must take precedenc= e over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.=E2=80=9D Rich= ard Feynman </span> </div> </div> <img border=3D"0" width=3D"1" height=3D"1" src=3D"http://nojsstats.apps=
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+1 this one -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Federico Alberto Sayd Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:24 AM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc. Thanks _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

+1 -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Maurice James Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:57 PM To: 'Federico Alberto Sayd'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning +1 this one -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Federico Alberto Sayd Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:24 AM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Add progress bar to task tab to indicate the progress percent of snapshot creation, vm clonation, migration, etc. Thanks _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Allow select the storage domain when add a new VM from template. Currently the vm is created in the same datastore that the template.

On 03/19/2014 08:41 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Allow select the storage domain when add a new VM from template. Currently the vm is created in the same datastore that the template.
you can clone the template disks to multiple storage domains in the DC, then create the VM in any storage domain, for thinly provisioned. for clone operation, iirc, you can do this even without having the template in the target storage domain?

On 19/03/14 18:24, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/19/2014 08:41 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Allow select the storage domain when add a new VM from template. Currently the vm is created in the same datastore that the template.
you can clone the template disks to multiple storage domains in the DC, then create the VM in any storage domain, for thinly provisioned. for clone operation, iirc, you can do this even without having the template in the target storage domain?
1 - I could not find a "clone template" option, only the option "copy" when you select a template's disk in Templates->Disks. Is this "copy" the "clone" that you mention? 2 - Then can't I use a storage domain only for templates (i.e. use a slow performance storage only for templates)? 3 - Another question, when you convert a VM to template I see that it is created with preallocated disk even if the original VM had thinly provisioned disk. Is there no way to make the template with the same type of disk (thinly provisioned)??

On 03/20/2014 07:30 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
On 19/03/14 18:24, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/19/2014 08:41 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Allow select the storage domain when add a new VM from template. Currently the vm is created in the same datastore that the template.
you can clone the template disks to multiple storage domains in the DC, then create the VM in any storage domain, for thinly provisioned. for clone operation, iirc, you can do this even without having the template in the target storage domain?
1 - I could not find a "clone template" option, only the option "copy" when you select a template's disk in Templates->Disks. Is this "copy" the "clone" that you mention?
yes.
2 - Then can't I use a storage domain only for templates (i.e. use a slow performance storage only for templates)?
only if you use clone, rather than thin provision. we don't want a single disk chain spanning more then a single storage domain today.
3 - Another question, when you convert a VM to template I see that it is created with preallocated disk even if the original VM had thinly provisioned disk. Is there no way to make the template with the same type of disk (thinly provisioned)??
on NFS - it doesn't matter. on block storage - i don't remember why. maybe federico remembers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Federico Alberto Sayd" <fsayd@uncu.edu.ar>, users@ovirt.org, "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47:14 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 03/20/2014 07:30 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
3 - Another question, when you convert a VM to template I see that it is created with preallocated disk even if the original VM had thinly provisioned disk. Is there no way to make the template with the same type of disk (thinly provisioned)??
on NFS - it doesn't matter. on block storage - i don't remember why. maybe federico remembers.
It was for performance reasons since on block it would result in a qcow2 image. We wanted the access to the template to be as fast as possible. The same question was brought up few months ago when we discussed importing images from glance as templates. Anyway in that case we decided (for simplicity) to allow the import as template also for qcow2 images. -- Federico

On 20/03/14 20:00, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Federico Alberto Sayd" <fsayd@uncu.edu.ar>, users@ovirt.org, "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47:14 PM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.5 planning
On 03/20/2014 07:30 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
3 - Another question, when you convert a VM to template I see that it is created with preallocated disk even if the original VM had thinly provisioned disk. Is there no way to make the template with the same type of disk (thinly provisioned)?? on NFS - it doesn't matter. on block storage - i don't remember why. maybe federico remembers. It was for performance reasons since on block it would result in a qcow2 image. We wanted the access to the template to be as fast as possible.
The same question was brought up few months ago when we discussed importing images from glance as templates. Anyway in that case we decided (for simplicity) to allow the import as template also for qcow2 images.
Ok, thank you both for the clarification Federico

Hi, as Dan told me I'm gonna add one more feature request: IPv6 Support for engine and compute nodes, so you are able to use oVirt in an IPv6 only environment. Currently ComputeNodes require their own IPv4 address. I don't know if and what upstream dependencies might exist but I think it is worth the effort, not speaking of getting into some mainline distributions. (AFAIK Fedora has a policy that all daemons which are facing the network must support IPv6 ?) It is the year 2014, we are running out of IPv4 addresses world wide. Every new product like oVirt should try it's best to support IPv6 in general. A second feature: Fencing Hosts from engine, I already created a BZ for this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054778 In fact, it's target release was already set to 3.5 but that doesn't always mean it will make it ;) This feature would really be helpful for local storage DCs. If I had to decide which one gets in I'd want the fencing from engine. Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
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Maybe I'm missing something but currently when I register a node it gets assigned to the DEFAULT datacenter. As we like to have a separate DC for specific customers, I would like to register the node to a chosen DC through a PXE kernel parameter or the Node admin interface. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae

On 03/25/2014 08:39 AM, Jorick Astrego wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but currently when I register a node it gets assigned to the DEFAULT datacenter.
As we like to have a separate DC for specific customers, I would like to register the node to a chosen DC through a PXE kernel parameter or the Node admin interface.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
so i remember the code used to do this (back in 2008), but it seems the RegisterServlet isn't passing this any more to the RegisterVdsQuery class. please open an RFE in bugzilla to track this. (not sure if should be nice and accept cluster name, or less nice and expect the cluster uuid...)

On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:10 -0400, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/25/2014 08:39 AM, Jorick Astrego wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but currently when I register a node it gets assigned to the DEFAULT datacenter.
As we like to have a separate DC for specific customers, I would like to register the node to a chosen DC through a PXE kernel parameter or the Node admin interface.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
so i remember the code used to do this (back in 2008), but it seems the RegisterServlet isn't passing this any more to the RegisterVdsQuery class.
please open an RFE in bugzilla to track this. (not sure if should be nice and accept cluster name, or less nice and expect the cluster uuid...)
I cannot add a RFE in bugzilla. Project oVirt doesn't have an RFE component and when I create a new issue, I am not allowed to select Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization Manager as the product. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego

On 03/27/2014 06:14 AM, Jorick Astrego wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:10 -0400, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/25/2014 08:39 AM, Jorick Astrego wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but currently when I register a node it gets assigned to the DEFAULT datacenter.
As we like to have a separate DC for specific customers, I would like to register the node to a chosen DC through a PXE kernel parameter or the Node admin interface.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
so i remember the code used to do this (back in 2008), but it seems the RegisterServlet isn't passing this any more to the RegisterVdsQuery class.
please open an RFE in bugzilla to track this. (not sure if should be nice and accept cluster name, or less nice and expect the cluster uuid...)
I cannot add a RFE in bugzilla. Project oVirt doesn't have an RFE component and when I create a new issue, I am not allowed to select Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization Manager <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/describecomponents.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Virtualization%20Manager> as the product.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego
please open a BZ in ovirt on ovirt-engine-core. it becomes an RFE by flagging it with the FutureFeature keyword.

And I still have 2 cool features which would be cool to include for 3.5: Add Debian 7 to the list of operating systems for VMs (I guess there is not much work to be done for that) Here's the RFE for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453 And provide qemu-guest-agent (not ovirt-guest-agent) for more operating systems, at least centos. ubuntu 12.04 and debian would also be cool. I can create an RFE for that if you want. Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

On 03/26/2014 05:44 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
And I still have 2 cool features which would be cool to include for 3.5:
Add Debian 7 to the list of operating systems for VMs (I guess there is not much work to be done for that)
care to give it a shot :) really simple sample to follow: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
Here's the RFE for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453
And provide qemu-guest-agent (not ovirt-guest-agent) for more operating systems, at least centos.
ubuntu 12.04 and debian would also be cool.
I can create an RFE for that if you want.
qemu-guest-agent for centos should be opened in centos (not sure why its not already available)? qemu-guest-agent is part of the qemu/kvm ecosystem and for debian/ubuntu - should be raised on qemu-devel and opened in ubuntu/debian?
Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...

2014-03-26 10:51 GMT+01:00 Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>:
On 03/26/2014 05:44 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
And I still have 2 cool features which would be cool to include for 3.5:
Add Debian 7 to the list of operating systems for VMs (I guess there is not much work to be done for that)
care to give it a shot :) really simple sample to follow: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
Here's the RFE for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453
And provide qemu-guest-agent (not ovirt-guest-agent) for more operating systems, at least centos.
ubuntu 12.04 and debian would also be cool.
I can create an RFE for that if you want.
qemu-guest-agent for centos should be opened in centos (not sure why its not already available)?
qemu-guest-agent is part of the qemu/kvm ecosystem and for debian/ubuntu - should be raised on qemu-devel and opened in ubuntu/debian?
Actually qemu-guest-agent IS available in the standard CentOS distribution ( ATM qemu-guest-agent-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.6.{x86_64,i686}.rpm ). Regarding ubuntu 12.04, isn't it "Ubuntu Precise Pangolin LTS" (this is from oVirt 3.4.0) ? HTH, Giorgio.
Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...

Ah cool, I didn't stumble upon the qemu-ga, thanks for that! However yes, ubuntu 12.04 is precise release, but I don't know of any packaged version of qemu-ga for it, but maybe I just missed it as the centos one? Am 26.03.2014 11:13, schrieb Giorgio Bersano:
Actually qemu-guest-agent IS available in the standard CentOS distribution ( ATM qemu-guest-agent-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.6.{x86_64,i686}.rpm ).
Regarding ubuntu 12.04, isn't it "Ubuntu Precise Pangolin LTS" (this is from oVirt 3.4.0) ?
HTH, Giorgio.
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

2014-03-26 11:20 GMT+01:00 Sven Kieske <S.Kieske@mittwald.de>:
Ah cool, I didn't stumble upon the qemu-ga, thanks for that!
However yes, ubuntu 12.04 is precise release, but I don't know of any packaged version of qemu-ga for it, but maybe I just missed it as the centos one?
No, it seems to be available only from "Raring Ringtails" onwards :-(
Am 26.03.2014 11:13, schrieb Giorgio Bersano:
Actually qemu-guest-agent IS available in the standard CentOS distribution ( ATM qemu-guest-agent-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.6.{x86_64,i686}.rpm ).
Regarding ubuntu 12.04, isn't it "Ubuntu Precise Pangolin LTS" (this is from oVirt 3.4.0) ?
HTH, Giorgio.
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
Sven Kieske
Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

So I guess I don't need to search for a compiled version for debian 7? Am 26.03.2014 14:38, schrieb Giorgio Bersano:
No, it seems to be available only from "Raring Ringtails" onwards :-(
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG Königsberger Straße 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen

On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:51 , Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 03/26/2014 05:44 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
And I still have 2 cool features which would be cool to include for 3.5:
Add Debian 7 to the list of operating systems for VMs (I guess there is not much work to be done for that)
care to give it a shot :) really simple sample to follow: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
Here's the RFE for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453
And provide qemu-guest-agent (not ovirt-guest-agent) for more operating systems, at least centos.
ubuntu 12.04 and debian would also be cool.
I can create an RFE for that if you want.
qemu-guest-agent for centos should be opened in centos (not sure why its not already available)?
qemu-guest-agent is part of the qemu/kvm ecosystem and for debian/ubuntu - should be raised on qemu-devel and opened in ubuntu/debian?
note so far in 3.4/3.5 still the only thing it brings you is the Backup API feature - quiesce of drives during taking of the snapshot. For most of other uses you don't actually need it and you can --nodeps it... Thanks, michal
Am 24.02.2014 17:59, schrieb Itamar Heim:
with oVirt 3.4 getting close to GA with many many great features, time to collect requests for 3.5...
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 26/03/14 06:51, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/26/2014 05:44 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
And I still have 2 cool features which would be cool to include for 3.5:
Add Debian 7 to the list of operating systems for VMs (I guess there is not much work to be done for that)
care to give it a shot :) really simple sample to follow: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/22273/
Here's the RFE for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453
And provide qemu-guest-agent (not ovirt-guest-agent) for more operating systems, at least centos.
ubuntu 12.04 and debian would also be cool.
I can create an RFE for that if you want.
qemu-guest-agent for centos should be opened in centos (not sure why its not already available)?
qemu-guest-agent is part of the qemu/kvm ecosystem and for debian/ubuntu - should be raised on qemu-devel and opened in ubuntu/debian?
For Debian, package qemu-guest-agent exists in backports: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/qemu-guest-agent I haven't tested it yet

On 24/02/14 13:59, Itamar Heim wrote:
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Add support to sparsify disk trough virt-sparsify in order to reclaim unused space from vm disk or convert to thin provision. This feature is usefult when you import a vm from another hypervisor disk is imported with full size.

+1 Am 26.03.2014 16:14, schrieb Federico Alberto Sayd:
Add support to sparsify disk trough virt-sparsify in order to reclaim unused space from vm disk or convert to thin provision. This feature is usefult when you import a vm from another hypervisor disk is imported with full size.
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