experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs

Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen... Hope that helps, Doron

Hi Doron, So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer? Thanks! iordan On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm.
In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support
As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen...
Hope that helps, Doron
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

Hi Doron, To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming: The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family Thanks! iordan On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov <iiordanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Doron,
So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer?
Thanks! iordan
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm.
In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support
As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen...
Hope that helps, Doron
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine
I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming:
The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family
Thanks! iordan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov <iiordanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Doron,
So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer?
Thanks! iordan
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm.
In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support
As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen...
Hope that helps, Doron
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
Hi iordan, The text you provided is based on the information we get from libvirt with some restrictions we impose specifically on hosted engine to make sure its VM can live-migrate from one host to the other. You can see more info here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administra... Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini?

Hi Doron, I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings? Thanks! iordan On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine
I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming:
The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family
Thanks! iordan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov <iiordanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Doron,
So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer?
Thanks! iordan
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm.
In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support
As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen...
Hope that helps, Doron
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
Hi iordan, The text you provided is based on the information we get from libvirt with some restrictions we impose specifically on hosted engine to make sure its VM can live-migrate from one host to the other.
You can see more info here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administra...
Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini?
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com>, "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings?
Thanks! iordan
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine
I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming:
The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family
Thanks! iordan
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov <iiordanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Doron,
So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer?
Thanks! iordan
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck <dfediuck@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys,
I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend?
Many thanks! iordan
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm.
In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support
As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_differen...
Hope that helps, Doron
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
Hi iordan, The text you provided is based on the information we get from libvirt with some restrictions we impose specifically on hosted engine to make sure its VM can live-migrate from one host to the other.
You can see more info here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administra...
Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini?
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
Hi iordan, all oVirt installers are using libvirt to verify the CPU family. Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini?

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From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> To: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
----- Original Message -----
From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com>, "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings?
Thanks! iordan
Hi everyone, I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet. According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3. Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt) +++ [1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards. -- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani ------=_Part_15893535_1207558492.1402047149538 Content-Type: text/plain; name=lspci.txt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=lspci.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MDA6MDAuMCBIb3N0IGJyaWRnZTogQWR2YW5jZWQgTWljcm8gRGV2aWNlcywgSW5jLiBbQU1EXSBG YW1pbHkgMTZoIFByb2Nlc3NvciBSb290IENvbXBsZXgKMDA6MDEuMCBWR0EgY29tcGF0aWJsZSBj b250cm9sbGVyOiBBZHZhbmNlZCBNaWNybyBEZXZpY2VzLCBJbmMuIFtBTUQvQVRJXSBLYWJpbmkg W1JhZGVvbiBIRCA4NDAwIC8gUjMgU2VyaWVzXQowMDowMS4xIEF1ZGlvIGRldmljZTogQWR2YW5j ZWQgTWljcm8gRGV2aWNlcywgSW5jLiBbQU1EL0FUSV0gS2FiaW5pIEhETUkvRFAgQXVkaW8KMDA6 MDIuMCBIb3N0IGJyaWRnZTogQWR2YW5jZWQgTWljcm8gRGV2aWNlcywgSW5jLiBbQU1EXSBGYW1p bHkgMTZoIFByb2Nlc3NvciBGdW5jdGlvbiAwCjAwOjAyLjQgUENJIGJyaWRnZTogQWR2YW5jZWQg TWljcm8gRGV2aWNlcywgSW5jLiBbQU1EXSBGYW1pbHkgMTZoIFByb2Nlc3NvciBGdW5jdGlvbnMg 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Hi Francesco, Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I already ordered the parts taking a small risk. Yes, this system promises to be so cool and quiet, that I can practically use it as a pillow :). Cheers! iordan On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
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From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> To: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
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From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com>, "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings?
Thanks! iordan
Hi everyone,
I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet.
According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3.
Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt)
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[1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards.
-- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

Hey, Just a quick update on this. The machine is really quiet and cool, and most importantly, oVirt works perfectly on it. Thanks again for all the input! iordan On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, i iordanov <iiordanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francesco,
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I already ordered the parts taking a small risk. Yes, this system promises to be so cool and quiet, that I can practically use it as a pillow :).
Cheers! iordan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
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From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> To: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
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From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov@gmail.com> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi@redhat.com>, "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron,
I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings?
Thanks! iordan
Hi everyone,
I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet.
According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3.
Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt)
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[1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards.
-- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
-- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.
participants (3)
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Doron Fediuck
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Francesco Romani
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i iordanov