This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --TMX05946b6Q58XFHvrNTLLmdel7Pug8uS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="f9ftTxVVhuhji6w54xfnprOLajlHF2fRF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Chris Cowley <chris@chriscowley.me.uk> To: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Message-ID: <2894bec3-bf49-1ac8-55dc-fc7a11f9d03b@chriscowley.me.uk> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] I wrote an oVirt thing References: <a27fa272-159e-2347-1874-a757a8414f55@chriscowley.me.uk> <3c7ac2794ffc360306f50968934e4960.squirrel@mail2.ihtfp.org> In-Reply-To: <3c7ac2794ffc360306f50968934e4960.squirrel@mail2.ihtfp.org> --f9ftTxVVhuhji6w54xfnprOLajlHF2fRF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for = it. Also, choice is good. Finally: because I didn't think of it. On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi Chris, =20 Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell? =20 -derek =20 On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote:

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Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters.

https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the = ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

Chris Cowley http://about.me/chriscowley

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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --W8wBAgVq7stw0c5fv9sNKcKWcojdm7pVh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="4SjrB35Hhkm1G3Kq0lgkXGsG2HdQv3drL"; protected-headers="v1" From: Chris Cowley <chris@chriscowley.me.uk> To: Moran Goldboim <mgoldboi@redhat.com> Cc: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>, users@ovirt.org Message-ID: <3d4ba2bf-c804-8f08-4d9e-f22e3826f285@chriscowley.me.uk> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] I wrote an oVirt thing References: <a27fa272-159e-2347-1874-a757a8414f55@chriscowley.me.uk> <3c7ac2794ffc360306f50968934e4960.squirrel@mail2.ihtfp.org> <2894bec3-bf49-1ac8-55dc-fc7a11f9d03b@chriscowley.me.uk> <CANmG9285cfuvrm8ecSEPXNOEjU-wz=7x0GCU=ADuGNN2T1ypdg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANmG9285cfuvrm8ecSEPXNOEjU-wz=7x0GCU=ADuGNN2T1ypdg@mail.gmail.com> --4SjrB35Hhkm1G3Kq0lgkXGsG2HdQv3drL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't see what Ansible has to do with this. In any case, I do not actually like Ansible. It is not a tool that follows my logic, nor do I like that it always seems to nudging me towards Ansible Tower. I wanted a simple CLI that I can use to scratch my own personal itch and thought I would share it with you guys. On 27/11/16 10:07, Moran Goldboim wrote:

Guys, can you please check out Ansible integration work for those use c= ases: a base Auth/Vms/Disks modules were introduced with Ansible 2.2 - https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/ovirt_vms_module.html https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/ovirt_disks_module.html https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/ovirt_auth_module.html https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/tree/stable-2.2/cloud= /ovirt =20 with many improvements coming soon with Ansible 2.3: https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/tree/devel/cloud/ovir= t https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/pulls?utf8=3D%E2%9C%9= 3&q=3Dis%3Apr%20is%3Aopen%20ovirt =20 it sounds like that for this use case, Ansible modules should be a grea= t answer. =20 Moran. =20 On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Chris Cowley <chris@chriscowley.me.uk=

<mailto:chris@chriscowley.me.uk>> wrote: =20 A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I mad= e this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at = work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is package= d for it. =20 Also, choice is good. =20 Finally: because I didn't think of it. =20 On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? > Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell? > > -derek > > On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI = to >> manage my oVirt clusters. >> >> https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage <https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage> >> >> Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started= a >> function to show the details, but all that does for now is retur= n the ID. >> >> The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to=

>> ideas/PRs from the community. >> >> Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper=

>> developer, what you see may cause you physical pain. >> >> Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, b=

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>> patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :=

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>> >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Chris Cowley >> http://about.me/chriscowley >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> >> > > =20 =20 -- Regards =20 Chris Cowley http://about.me/chriscowley =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> =20 =20

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BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2. So better not use it. Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Java, python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (instead of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ). Regards, Oved On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr> wrote:

Le 26/11/2016 à 22:40, Chris Cowley a écrit :

A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

sudo apt-get install -y python-pip sudo pip install kitchen sudo pip install ply sudo pip install ovirt-shell

Also, choice is good.

Finally: because I didn't think of it.

On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell?

-derek

On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote:

Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters. https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

Chris Cowleyhttp://about.me/chriscowley

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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Konstantin Shalygin <k0ste@k0ste.ru> wrote:

ovirt-shell will be deprecated and not supported or some functions on ovirt-shell (or all package ovirt-engine-cli)?

All of it will be removed once we remove V3 API (in 4.2)

We use ovirt-shell on client desktops who connected to SPICE consoles and work (users provided by LDAP on ovirt-engine), like via RDP. For this I wrote very fast-hack patch for ovirt-shell and GUI for enter password ( https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk). Very simple, but via Internet people use SPICE without negative about packet loss and disconnects, instead RDP.

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of

...

the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2. So better not use it.

You can start maintain. For example I maintain packes for Arch Linux: ovirt-engine-cli (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-cli) and ovirt-engine-sdk-python (https://aur.archlinux.org/pac kages/ovirt-engine-sdk-python).

My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that

...

ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

-- Best regards, Konstantin Shalygin

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------458056678CBCA60D9CBDE91D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Use case - Explain what is Virtual Machine to accountant or stockman - beyond my powers. But they understand what is Remote Desktop, and how to "Start menu->Programs->Remote Work->password->Enter". In this talk I like the fact that I learned about deprecation this packet and need to start wrote on another library instead call sub-process. About security reasons: is acceptable for our company. For who don't need this patch can easy disable it. This is not package[1], only playbook for build this. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository On 11/29/2016 07:06 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Konstantin Shalygin <k0ste@k0ste.ru <mailto:k0ste@k0ste.ru>> wrote:

ovirt-shell will be deprecated and not supported or some functions on ovirt-shell (or all package ovirt-engine-cli)?

We use ovirt-shell on client desktops who connected to SPICE consoles and work (users provided by LDAP on ovirt-engine), like via RDP. For this I wrote very fast-hack patch for ovirt-shell and GUI for enter password (https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk <https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk>). Very simple, but via Internet people use SPICE without negative about packet loss and disconnects, instead RDP.

Can you further explain the use case? I assume the user portal is not good enough for some reason?

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2. So better not use it.

You can start maintain. For example I maintain packes for Arch Linux: ovirt-engine-cli (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-cli <https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-cli>) and ovirt-engine-sdk-python (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-sdk-python <https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-sdk-python>).

Hi,

It somehow looks like a fork of the CLI (due to the added patch[1]). I'm not sure how happy I am about it, considering the patch is adding a feature with security issues (there is a reason we do not support password passed via the command line - it's somewhat less secure). Since you are already checking for the CLI rc file[2], just add the password to it and launch with it (in a temp file in the temp directory with the right permissions, etc...)

BTW, note that the attempt to delete the password from memory[3] may or may not work. After all, it's a copy of what you got from entry.get_text() few lines before. And Python GC is not really to be relied upon to delete things ASAP anyway. There are some lovely discussions on the Internet about it. For example[4]. Y.

[1] https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/add_password_option.patch [2] https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L81 [3] https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L71 [4] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/728164/securely-erasing-password-in-memor...

My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

-- Best regards, Konstantin Shalygin

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-- Best regards, Konstantin Shalygin --------------458056678CBCA60D9CBDE91D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <p><font face="Fira Sans">Use case - </font><span id="result_box" class="short_text" tabindex="-1" lang="en"><span>Explain</span> <span>what is Virtual Machine to accountant or stockman</span> <span>-</span> <span class="">beyond my powers</span><span class="">. But they understand what is Remote Desktop, and how to "Start menu->Programs->Remote Work->password->Enter".</span></span></p> <p><br> <span id="result_box" class="" tabindex="-1" lang="en"><span>In this</span> <span>talk</span> <span>I like the fact</span> <span>that</span> <span>I learned</span> <span class="">about deprecation this packet and need to start wrote on another library instead call sub-process.</span></span></p> <p>About security reasons: is acceptable for our company. For who don't need this patch can easy disable it. This is not package[1], only playbook for build this.<br> <span id="result_box" class="" tabindex="-1" lang="en"><span class=""></span><span></span></span></p> <br> [1] <a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository</a><br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/29/2016 07:06 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAJgorsY_SksEnP2jQxBgdJyKW=4_qZZGZ=DwHQ13MteEN5jG5w@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><br> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Konstantin Shalygin <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:k0ste@k0ste.ru" target="_blank">k0ste@k0ste.ru</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">ovirt-shell will be deprecated and not supported or some functions on ovirt-shell (or all package ovirt-engine-cli)?<br> <br> We use ovirt-shell on client desktops who connected to SPICE consoles and work (users provided by LDAP on ovirt-engine), like via RDP. For this I wrote very fast-hack patch for ovirt-shell and GUI for enter password (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/k0ste/ovir<wbr>t-pygtk</a>). Very simple, but via Internet people use SPICE without negative about packet loss and disconnects, instead RDP.</blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>Can you further explain the use case? I assume the user portal is not good enough for some reason?</div> <div> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-"><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of<br> the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2.<br> So better not use it.<br> </blockquote> <br> <br> </span> You can start maintain. For example I maintain packes for Arch Linux: ovirt-engine-cli (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-cli" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aur.archlinux.org/pac<wbr>kages/ovirt-engine-cli</a>) and ovirt-engine-sdk-python (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ovirt-engine-sdk-python" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aur.archlinux.org/pac<wbr>kages/ovirt-engine-sdk-python</a>)<wbr>.</blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>Hi,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>It somehow looks like a fork of the CLI (due to the added patch[1]). </div> <div>I'm not sure how happy I am about it, considering the patch is adding a feature with security issues (there is a reason we do not support password passed via the command line - it's somewhat less secure).</div> <div>Since you are already checking for the CLI rc file[2], just add the password to it and launch with it (in a temp file in the temp directory with the right permissions, etc...)</div> <div><br> </div> <div>BTW, note that the attempt to delete the password from memory[3] may or may not work. After all, it's a copy of what you got from entry.get_text() few lines before.</div> <div>And Python GC is not really to be relied upon to delete things ASAP anyway. There are some lovely discussions on the Internet about it. For example[4].</div> <div>Y.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/add_password_option.patch">https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/add_password_option.patch</a></div> <div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L81">https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L81</a></div> <div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L71">https://github.com/k0ste/ovirt-pygtk/blob/master/ovirt-pygtk.py#L71</a></div> <div>[4] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/728164/securely-erasing-password-in-memory-python">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/728164/securely-erasing-password-in-memory-python</a></div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-im gmail-HOEnZb"><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">   My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.<br> </blockquote> <br> </span><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> -- <br> Best regards,<br> Konstantin Shalygin</font></span> <div class="gmail-HOEnZb"> <div class="gmail-h5"><br> <br> <br> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/users</a><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Best regards, Konstantin Shalygin </pre> </body> </html> --------------458056678CBCA60D9CBDE91D--

------=_Part_1132159_513221533.1480427401401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is this something that was officially announced and I've missed? This is th= e first time I'm hearing about the removal of the cli=20 Regards,=20 Logan=20 ----- On Nov 28, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourfali@redhat.com> wrote= :=20 | BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of = the v3 | api, which we plan to remove in 4.2. | So better not use it. | Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Ja= va, | python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (in= stead | of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ). | Regards, | Oved | On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" < blanchet@abes.fr > wro= te: || Le 26/11/2016 =C3=A0 22:40, Chris Cowley a =C3=A9crit : ||| A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made ||| this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work ||| is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged fo= r it. || sudo apt-get install -y python-pip || sudo pip install kitchen || sudo pip install ply || sudo pip install ovirt-shell ||| Also, choice is good. ||| Finally: because I didn't think of it. ||| On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote: |||| Hi Chris, |||| Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? |||| Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell? |||| -derek |||| On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote: ||||| Hi all ||||| I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to ||||| manage my oVirt clusters. https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/= ovirtmanage ||||| Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a ||||| function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the= ID. ||||| The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ||||| ideas/PRs from the community. ||||| Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. 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On 11/29/2016 03:19 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourfali@redhat.com <mailto:oourfali@redhat.com>> wrote:

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated.

Can you please point me to the deprecation bug for it? I can't see it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ovirt-shell

It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2.

Haven't seen a deprecation bug for this as well in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=classification%3Aovirt%2...

If we want people to know about it we need to publish it somehow and for the way we build release notes we need deprecation bugs for it to be published.

There were no such bugs. I have just created them: Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399724 Deprecate version 3 of the Python SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399714 Deprecate version 3 of the Java SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399717 Deprecate the ovirt-shell tool https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399709

So better not use it.

Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Java, python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (instead of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ).

Regards, Oved

On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:

Le 26/11/2016 à 22:40, Chris Cowley a écrit :

...

A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

sudo apt-get install -y python-pip sudo pip install kitchen sudo pip install ply sudo pip install ovirt-shell

...

Also, choice is good.

Finally: because I didn't think of it.

On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

...

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell?

-derek

On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote:

...

Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters.

https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage <https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage>

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

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On 11/29/2016 05:02 PM, Martin Sivak wrote:

Juan, you can't say something was deprecated since 4.0 in a bug that is created close to feature freeze of 4.1. Neither SDK nor RESTv3 are considered deprecated in 4.0, period. Internal plans do not count if nobody knows about them.

Yes, I can say it, because I have been telling everybody to avoid using version 3 of the API, version 3 of the SDKs and the CLI. That is the meaning of "deprecate", according to the dictionary.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Juan Hernández <jhernand@redhat.com> wrote:

...

On 11/29/2016 03:19 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

...

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourfali@redhat.com <mailto:oourfali@redhat.com>> wrote:

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated.

Can you please point me to the deprecation bug for it? I can't see it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ovirt-shell

It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2.

Haven't seen a deprecation bug for this as well in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=classification%3Aovirt%2...

If we want people to know about it we need to publish it somehow and for the way we build release notes we need deprecation bugs for it to be published.

There were no such bugs. I have just created them:

Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399724

Deprecate version 3 of the Python SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399714

Deprecate version 3 of the Java SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399717

Deprecate the ovirt-shell tool https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399709

...

So better not use it.

Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Java, python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (instead of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ).

Regards, Oved

On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:

Le 26/11/2016 à 22:40, Chris Cowley a écrit :

...

A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

sudo apt-get install -y python-pip sudo pip install kitchen sudo pip install ply sudo pip install ovirt-shell

...

Also, choice is good.

Finally: because I didn't think of it.

On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

...

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell?

-derek

On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote:

...

Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters.

https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage <https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage>

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

Chris Cowley http://about.me/chriscowley

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On 11/29/2016 04:51 PM, Juan Hernández wrote:

On 11/29/2016 03:19 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

...

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourfali@redhat.com <mailto:oourfali@redhat.com>> wrote:

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated.

Can you please point me to the deprecation bug for it? I can't see it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ovirt-shell

It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2.

Haven't seen a deprecation bug for this as well in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=classification%3Aovirt%2...

If we want people to know about it we need to publish it somehow and for the way we build release notes we need deprecation bugs for it to be published.

There were no such bugs. I have just created them:

Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399724

This ^ bug had an important typo in the description that Martin Sivak pointed out. I have closed it and replaced with this one, which is hopefully more correct: Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399750

Deprecate version 3 of the Python SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399714

Deprecate version 3 of the Java SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399717

Deprecate the ovirt-shell tool https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399709

...

So better not use it.

Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Java, python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (instead of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ).

Regards, Oved

On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:

Le 26/11/2016 à 22:40, Chris Cowley a écrit :

...

A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

sudo apt-get install -y python-pip sudo pip install kitchen sudo pip install ply sudo pip install ovirt-shell

...

Also, choice is good.

Finally: because I didn't think of it.

On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

...

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell?

-derek

On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote:

...

Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters.

https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage <https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage>

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

Chris Cowley http://about.me/chriscowley

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On 12/28/2016 06:47 PM, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote:

Hi,

I understand that ovirt-shell is deprecated, but I need it for the moment.

I've just done a pip install upgrade ovirt-engine-sdk-python on my ubuntu laptop and now ovirt-shell is totally broken, saying : ImportError: No module named ovirtsdk.xml.

Can I go back to the previous SDK? How can I fix it?

Thanks.

The CLI depends completely on version 3 of the SDK, and it won't work with version 4. You need to explicitly install version 3 of the SDK: pip install ovirt-engine-sdk-python==3.6.9.2

Le 29/11/2016 à 17:19, Juan Hernández a écrit :

...

On 11/29/2016 04:51 PM, Juan Hernández wrote:

...

On 11/29/2016 03:19 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

...

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourfali@redhat.com <mailto:oourfali@redhat.com>> wrote:

BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated.

Can you please point me to the deprecation bug for it? I can't see it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ovirt-shell

It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2.

Haven't seen a deprecation bug for this as well in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=classification%3Aovirt%2...

If we want people to know about it we need to publish it somehow and for the way we build release notes we need deprecation bugs for it to be published.

There were no such bugs. I have just created them:

Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399724

This ^ bug had an important typo in the description that Martin Sivak pointed out. I have closed it and replaced with this one, which is hopefully more correct:

Deprecate version 3 of the API https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399750

...

Deprecate version 3 of the Python SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399714

Deprecate version 3 of the Java SDK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399717

Deprecate the ovirt-shell tool https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1399709

...

So better not use it.

Alternatives are to use the SDKs according to your preference (we have Java, python and Ruby SDKs) or the ansible modules mentioned above by Moran (instead of writing scripts you can write playbooks to do various operations ).

Regards, Oved

On Nov 28, 2016 13:02, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:

Le 26/11/2016 à 22:40, Chris Cowley a écrit :

...

A few reasons really. I fancied playing around with Click, so I made this as I was also digging around the oVirt API. My workstation at work is running Ubuntu, and I do not believe that ovirt-shell is packaged for it.

sudo apt-get install -y python-pip sudo pip install kitchen sudo pip install ply sudo pip install ovirt-shell

...

Also, choice is good.

Finally: because I didn't think of it.

On 26/11/16 22:24, Derek Atkins wrote:

...

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question, but, why not just use ovirt-shell? Or make this a wrapper around ovirt-shell?

-derek

On Sat, November 26, 2016 4:10 pm, Chris Cowley wrote: > Hi all > > I started hacking together something last night to use > as a CLI to > manage my oVirt clusters. > > https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage > <https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage> > > Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I > started a > function to show the details, but all that does for now > is return the ID. > > The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am > open to > ideas/PRs from the community. > > Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you > a proper > developer, what you see may cause you physical pain. > > Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural > France, be > patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort > of SLA :-) > > > -- > Regards > > Chris Cowley > http://about.me/chriscowley > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> >

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BTW, the ovirt-shell is something we deprecated. It is working on top of the v3 api, which we plan to remove in 4.2. So better not use it.

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While I really like both ideas it is not a route I would PERSONALLY take. To me it seems logical that there should be parallels between oVirt and Openstack. After all, oVirt already integrates with Glance, Cinder and Neutron. Thus it is not unreasonable to suggest that any sort of CLI should take its inspiration from the Openstack CLI tools. Also, I am not sure that would scratch my personal itch - which even in its unbelievably primitive state, my tool does. Of course, this is FLOSS, so knock yourself out - the more the merrier. On 2016-11-27 15:00, Nir Soffer wrote:

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Fabrice Bacchella <fabrice.bacchella@orange.fr> wrote:

...

Looks like close to my own try :

https://github.com/fbacchella/ovirtcmd

Looks cool.

But I think what we need is something like targetcli for ovirt. http://linux-iscsi.org/wiki/Targetcli#Display_the_object_tree

With such tool we can see the ovirt setup as a file system tree:

/ovirt/vms/vm-id /ovirt/storage/domain-id ...

And be able to query and operate on the entities.

Another crazy direction I discussed with Roy, is a fuse files system mapping ovirt setup to a file system - imagine:

$ mount -t ovirtfs /ovirt

$ ls /ovirt/vms vm-id-1 vm-id-2 ...

$ cat /ovirt/vms/vm-ids/running 1

$ echo 0 > /ovirt/vms/vm-id/running

...

...

Le 26 nov. 2016 à 22:10, Chris Cowley <chris@chriscowley.me.uk> a écrit :

Hi all

I started hacking together something last night to use as a CLI to manage my oVirt clusters.

https://gogs.chriscowley.me.uk/chriscowley/ovirtmanage

Currently it can create/delete a VM, list the VMS, and I started a function to show the details, but all that does for now is return the ID.

The plan is for it to evolve with my own needs, but I am open to ideas/PRs from the community.

Disclaimer #1: I am a SysAdmin, not a developer. If you a proper developer, what you see may cause you physical pain.

Disclaimer #2: My Gogs repo is behind my ADSL in rural France, be patient and I withold the right to not respect any sort of SLA :-)

-- Regards

Chris Cowley http://about.me/chriscowley

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