[Engine-devel] Java Development Lifecycle

[Liran Zelkha]

I don't think I'm the only one in the community who thinks we should
reconsider our GWT usage...


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Eli Mesika <emesika at redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs at redhat.com>
> > To: "Martin Perina" <mperina at redhat.com>
> > Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:34:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Java Development Lifecycle
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Martin Perina" <mperina at redhat.com>
> > > To: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:54:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Java Development Lifecycle
> > >
> > > For me the most time consuming problem is GWT compilation.
>
> When compiling GWT it build both Admin & User portals , it duplicates the
> compilation time , can this please be separated such that I can build admin
> portal without a user portal and vice verse ???
>
> It would be
> > > really
> > > nice
> > > if we can agree to create some clear separation between frontend and
> > > backend
> > > part, for
> > > example if frontend would communicate with backend only through REST
> API,
> > > GWT
> > > would
> > > have to recompile only if REST API or some frontend code has been
> changed.
> > >
> > > It's not something what can be done i short term, but it would be nice
> if
> > > we
> > > can
> > > find a way how to do it and create a schedule for this task.
> >
> > +100
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mooli Tayer" <mtayer at redhat.com>
> > > > To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:29:01 PM
> > > > Subject: [Engine-devel] Java Development Lifecycle
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I've been working on the engine for a few month now,
> > > > And I feel I have not yet been able to find a productive and fast
> > > > approach
> > > > for Java development in different engine components.
> > > >
> > > > This revolves mainly around:
> > > >
> > > > Compiling and deploying artifacts:
> > > > ==================================
> > > > If I want to check a small change in the engine,
> > > > Be it in an artifact that is part of engine.ear or when I am working
> on
> > > > one
> > > > of the side tools
> > > > that might run as a service (e.g ovirt-engine-notifier)
> > > > or just a single jar (engine-manage-domains)
> > > > It is essential to compile only parts of the project and not all of
> it.
> > > >
> > > > This can be achieved usually quite easily with mvn,
> > > > however afterwards I would like to be able to also deploy and run it
> > > > locally
> > > > or even take all jars comprising a project and run them exploded
> inside
> > > > my
> > > > IDE
> > > > (I use intellij idea) so I can enjoy live code editing and other
> benefits
> > > > idea
> > > > jboss & gwt integration offers. I have been using remote debug
> > > > (which is available by default in the engine and non existent in
> other
> > > > jars
> > > > so
> > > > I have to tamper manually with a python service file to add debug
> flags -
> > > > see
> > > > next)
> > > > But it's not as powerful as running inside an IDE and I feel my
> current
> > > > development lifecycle is
> > > > not as fast and productive as it could have been.
> > > > (I do understand the engine is complex regarding configuration and
> > > > deployment, so it's a challenge)
> > > >
> > > > Configuration:
> > > > ==============
> > > > This might be more of a todo item, I'm not sure..
> > > > After deployment of an artifact to run on a machine(again, engine,
> > > > notifier
> > > > or whatever)
> > > > if I want to change it's configuration
> > > > (configure it for remote debug as mentioned or change it's logging
> > > > behavior
> > > > and so on)
> > > > It seems I always have to do it in a different place which I always
> spend
> > > > hours finding.
> > > > It could be great if for all artifacts configuration could be
> streamlined
> > > > and
> > > > monolithic
> > > > across different components.
> > > >
> > > > These issues might seem obvious to some of you or unneeded to
> others, but
> > > > I've decided to shout out
> > > > in engine-devel because my usual way of approaching individuals has
> not
> > > > got
> > > > me very far,
> > > > and also because I'm convinced some of you have found ways to be
> > > > productive
> > > > I
> > > > am unaware of -
> > > > Please share them! Others may have their own good ideas &
> approaches(or
> > > > their
> > > > own needs).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mooli.
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