[Engine-devel] static header only in VM dialog?

[Daniel Erez]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim at redhat.com>
> To: "Daniel Erez" <derez at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen at redhat.com>, "Eldan Hildesheim" <info at eldanet.com>, "engine-devel"
> <engine-devel at ovirt.org>, "Eldan Hildesheim" <ehildesh at redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:56:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] static header only in VM dialog?
> 
> On 05/29/2013 08:36 AM, Daniel Erez wrote:
> ...
> >> relevant/correct to introduce this new concept only in the VM-like
> >> dialogs).
> >>
> >> regarding the specific concern about the DC/Cluster values that aren't
> >> necessarily relevant
> >> for each side-tab in the dialog: I agree with that statement, however:
> >>
> >> - putting the "Instance Type" drop-down at the top static section is very
> >> useful (see [4]
> >> for explanation), and as the Instance Types list is derived from the
> >> selected
> >> DC, it makes
> >> sense (to me) to put the DC in that top static section as well.
> >>
> >> - the DC/Cluster are relevant for some of the tabs in the dialog (Host,
> >> Resource Allocation?)
> >
> > Only for Host.
> > Resource Allocation is directly affected by the selected template.
> > Therefore, it sounds very confusing to me...
> > Unless we add template to the static header as well?
> > (which will be odd for the other tabs).
> 
> isn't resource allocation affected by the vm type (optimized for
> server/desktop), rather than the template?

Only Thin vs. Clone is affected by VM type.
But, SDs are affected by the selected template.

> 
> (and template is on the static header as well - images are a subset of
> templates, but you will see there both images and templates).

According to the current patch only DC and Cluster are static in the header.
Which means that until we have a full implementation merged the static
header would surely be confusing. Afterwards, I'm still not sure how most
tabs are influenced, e.g.: Initial Run / Console / Boot Options
are really related to the DC/Cluster/Instance Type?

> 
> >
> > So I still don't get the motivation UX-wise.
> > E.g. it seems really weird to change the entire DC from Console tab
> > (or, as a matter of fact, from most other tabs).
> > In the new instance type dialog, which tabs could be directly affected by
> > DC/Cluster?
> > IIUC, only Host? Do we really need a static header just for this tab?
> >
> >> so for consistency-within-the-dialog considerations, it is probably a good
> >> idea to simply
> >> always show these fields within this top static section.
> >>
> >> [there is a good chance that I am missing your point here - please correct
> >> me
> >> if necessary]
> >>
> >> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/14936/
> >>
> >> [2] http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Instance_Types
> >>
> >> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/images/9/9e/Instance_type.pdf
> >>
> >> [4] whenever changing the "Instance Type" value, you can automatically see
> >> how these changes
> >> affect the fields in the current tab on which you are standing (e.g. if
> >> you
> >> are standing on
> >> the "System" side-tab, you can change the "Instance Type" selected item
> >> and
> >> immediately see
> >> the changes within the "System" side-tab contents), and vice-versa: if you
> >> are changing a value
> >> that was originally propagated from the instance-type, you will see the
> >> instance-type automatically
> >> change to "custom"/"not applicable" as a result, so no need to "jump"
> >> between
> >> side-tabs in order
> >> to observe these changes.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Einav
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/images/9/9e/Instance_type.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: derez at redhat.com
> >>>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Cc: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs at redhat.com>, "Einav Cohen"
> >>>>> <ecohen at redhat.com>,
> >>>>> "Frank Kobzik" <fkobzik at redhat.com>,
> >>>>> "Eldan Hildesheim" <info at eldanet.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:05:38 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Change in ovirt-engine[master]: userportal,webadmin: redesign
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> vm related dialogs
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daniel Erez has posted comments on this change.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Change subject: userportal,webadmin: redesign of vm related dialogs
> >>>>> ......................................................................
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Patch Set 5: (1 inline comment)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Code looks good.
> >>>>> A few questions regarding the design:
> >>>>> 1. Why do we want the static header only in VM dialog?
> >>>>> 2. DC/Host are really relevant for all tabs?
> >>>>> 3. Is it just a preparation for the final instance type dialog?
> >>>>> 4. If it's indeed merely preparation, shouldn't it be merged only once
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> have the full picture of the new dialog?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ....................................................
> >>>>> File
> >>>>> frontend/webadmin/modules/gwt-common/src/main/java/org/ovirt/engine/ui/common/widget/dialog/tab/DialogTabPanel.ui.xml
> >>>>> Line 21:
> >>>>> Line 22: 		.header {
> >>>>> Line 23: 			background-color: #D3D3D3;
> >>>>> Line 24: 			border-bottom: 1px solid #CED8DF;
> >>>>> Line 25: 			margin-bottom: 15px;
> >>>>> is it supposed to be that large?
> >>>>> Line 26: 			padding-top: 6px;
> >>>>> Line 27: 			margin-top: 4px;
> >>>>> Line 28: 			margin-right: 3px;
> >>>>> Line 29: 			display: none;
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> Gerrit-MessageType: comment
> >>>>> Gerrit-Change-Id: Icad8098e286f821da25fac22fd0a840a42f105c9
> >>>>> Gerrit-PatchSet: 5
> >>>>> Gerrit-Project: ovirt-engine
> >>>>> Gerrit-Branch: master
> >>>>> Gerrit-Owner: Tomas Jelinek <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Daniel Erez <derez at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Einav Cohen <ecohen at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Eldan Hildesheim <info at eldanet.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Frank Kobzik <fkobzik at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Tomas Jelinek <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> >>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Vojtech Szocs <vszocs at redhat.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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