[Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs

Daniel Erez derez at redhat.com
Tue Nov 26 16:24:30 UTC 2013



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen at redhat.com>
> To: "Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com>, "Mike Kolesnik" <mkolesni at redhat.com>
> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:17:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:06:17 AM
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika at redhat.com>
> > > To: "Mike Kolesnik" <mkolesni at redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:05:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mike Kolesnik" <mkolesni at redhat.com>
> > > > To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:44:34 AM
> > > > Subject: [Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > When the comment RFE was added (in 3.3), there was also a column added
> > > > to
> > > > many main tabs.
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to propose to get rid of the column (which can only house
> > > > one
> > > > icon or no icon),
> > > > and instead if there's a comment on an entity just display the icon
> > > > with
> > > > the
> > > > tooltip adjacent to the name.
> > > > 
> > > > In this case the icon should probably be scaled down a bit since its
> > > > huge.
> > > > 
> > > > I think this would be a good alternative and save us some valued screen
> > > > real
> > > > estate.
> > > > 
> > > > Thoughts, opinions?
> > > 
> > > +1
> > 
> > +1. But isn't there a limitation on appending an icon to a column that
> > already has content? Also to fully consider pros and cons - if it is
> > possible, we have to think of where to append this icon - prefix or suffix.
> > If we prefix, then it is likely that some names will be preceded by 2 icons
> > because many of our lists have an icon already in the first column. If it
> > is
> > suffixed, the relative position on the icon will change based on how long
> > the name is and if the object names tend to be long, then potentially, the
> > icon is taking some room away.
> 
> see attached two options (both comparing the current state and a suggested
> state in the VMs main tab) - not sure which one Mike had in mind.
> option #1 is easy to implement while option #2, as Malini mentioned, may
> be more difficult to implement.
> also need to keep in mind that the today, the comment column real-estate is
> taken mostly by the column title; therefore if we lose the title, we should
> indicate in some other manner that this is the comment field of the object
> (e.g. within the tooltip - also demonstrated in the attached).

+1
I think that an image header might be a good solution.
E.g. an image of a post-it note instead of the title.

> 
> > 
> > Also worth considering is the fact that if we prefix the icon only on the
> > rows where it is needed, it will be in a position that will definitely grab
> > attention. So, it may be worthwhile to see if this is the icon that we
> > should place here or if there is any other icon that deserves this
> > attention
> > in a consistent manner across entities.
> > 
> > While on the topic, it will also be a great idea IMHO to take a look at our
> > various lists and see what columns are actually valuable for a default
> > display. I think we are working on adding the ability to select columns for
> > display and so the columns that we remove can be added back in by users
> > when
> > they want but do not sit there taking up room permanently. If anyone has
> > ideas on what the default columns should be for one or many of the lists in
> > our product, do send it to me. I will be willing to compile and consolidate
> > the list and then post it back to the group for consideration.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
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