Rolling over to new MediaWiki
Jason Brooks
jbrooks at redhat.com
Thu Sep 27 23:21:06 UTC 2012
On 09/27/2012 02:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi Karsten,
>
> On 09/27/2012 12:09 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>> Garrett's new MediaWiki skin is getting close to completion, and it
>> happens to run on MediaWiki 1.19, which we need to upgrade to.
>>
>> We have a few approaches:
>>
>> 1. Staggered upgrade - update MediaWiki 1.19 (either with an RPM or
>> ZIP), test, then update the theme. Do move to OpenShift as another
>> process.
>>
>> 2. One rollover - create the new site with the new version and the new
>> theme on OpenShift, import the data (pages and users), test; then freeze
>> the old wiki, do a final import of pages and users, and roll over DNS to
>> the OpenShift instance.
>>
>> Advantages? Disadvantages? Different approaches?
>
> It seems to me that we can cut things up into different bits, each of
> which is independent. We can do some of the things independent of
> getting the new site ready to go:
>
> 1. Upgrade MediaWiki to 1.19.2 - this should be a noop for site visitors
> and users
>
> 2. Preparing the content of the site for the migration - we're replacing
> ~15 pages managed by Wordpress by ~6 or 7 wiki pages - we need to make
> sure all the links work, point at existing pages when it's appropriate,
> and we need to do the copy writing for Develop, Documentation and maybe
> review the contetn of Community (which is a bit wordy for my taste right
> now).
I started a page to track this:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/New_website_tasks. I put a list of all the
pages on the existing site, sorted by all time traffic.
I'll add the links from Garrett's demo site as well, and we can set
about locating / writing / redirecting content.
>
> 3. Install extensions which we need for the new site - we need to
> evaluate first. I'd like to have an RSS extension, perhaps a Calendar
> extension, and one for embedding videos from YouTube
The Fedora Project is preparing to roll out
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS in their wiki. See example:
https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/CNetSecurity
Jason
>
> 4. Updating the content with some of the new content we have - videos
> and screenshots a-go-go, the updated installation guides that Jason has
> created, gathering links of blog entries from RobertM and jbrooks (among
> others) on topics like integrating Gluster storage, etc.
>
> 5. Installing the new theme
>
> 6. Moving to new hosting - either OpenShift or alternate hosting when we
> have it.
>
>
> I think we can do the MediaWiki upgrade and extension selection now and
> completely dissociate those from the new website deployment.
> We definitely need to get to "feature parity" with the old site ASAP,
> and I think we need to integrate some newer content too pre-launch.
>
> The new hosting, I think, can come afterwards. Are we ready to move to
> OpenShift right now?
>
>> Garrett - we have our install at /wiki, which is a bit standard, and
>> there are reasons AIUI:
>>
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory
>>
>> Note the admonition that doing the wiki at root-level means no support
>> from Wikimedia developers.
>>
>> The idea to make the MediaWiki instance the entire site means we need to
>> decide how we want www.ovirt.org to resolve, same with wiki.ovirt.org,
>> and do we hack MediaWiki to make it work with / instead of /wiki.
>
> which do you prefer - redirecting to /wiki, or using modrewrite to spoof
> it?
>
>> - Karsten, who wrote all this when about to check on the situation with
>> MediaWiki 1.19 in Fedora/EPEL, and realized we could skip the problem by
>> using OpenShift directly and immediately.
>
> What is your position, in general, on using upstream releases from
> .tar.gz? Do you think we should require an RPM?
>
> There's a little issue upgrading 1.16 to 1.19 you should be aware of -
> $IP isn't set in the local config file any more, it's calculated at
> runtime - and it didn't quite work with the way Fedora packaged the RPM
> previously (to simplify, MediaWiki expects to find the whole application
> in one directory hierarchy).
>
> Anyway, I favour doing it step by step if we can.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
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