[Users] error using cli on ovirt 3.1
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed Feb 6 19:25:28 UTC 2013
Bingo!
Postgresql-contrib was installed but create extension failed on syntax
error at "extension".
rpm -ql postgresql-contrib told me /usr/share/pgsql/contrib/uuid-ossp.sql
had the missing bit. Ran that as an external sql script and the hung
vmhosts are back up now.
what a roller coaster!
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Juan Hernandez <jhernand at redhat.com> wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 05:09 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
>> bad admin: the pki restore did not include some vital parts (.keystore !)
>>
>> SPM host is live now but others won't activate. Seems the database
>> restore dropped a function:
>>
>
> Make sure you have the "postgresql-contrib" package installed, then try
> this:
>
> # psql -U postgres engine
> engine# create extension "uuid-ossp";
>
> After that restart the engine.
>
>
>> 2013-02-06 11:06:55,650 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**ActivateVdsCommand] (pool-3-thread-49)
>> [58e7592f] Command org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**ActivateVdsCommand throw
>> exception: org.springframework.jdbc.**BadSqlGrammarException:
>> CallableStatementCallback; bad SQL grammar [{call
>> insert_entity_snapshot(?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)}]; nested exception is
>> org.postgresql.util.**PSQLException: ERROR: function uuid_generate_v1()
>> does not exist
>> Hint: No function matches the given name and argument types. You
>> might need to add explicit type casts.
>> Where: PL/pgSQL function "insert_entity_snapshot" line 4 at SQL
>> statement
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.**support.**SQLStateSQLExceptionTranslator**
>> .doTranslate(**SQLStateSQLExceptionTranslator**.java:97)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.**support.**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**
>> anslator.translate(**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**anslator.java:72)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.**support.**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**
>> anslator.translate(**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**anslator.java:80)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.**support.**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**
>> anslator.translate(**AbstractFallbackSQLExceptionTr**anslator.java:80)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**JdbcTemplate.execute(**JdbcTemplate.java:952)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**JdbcTemplate.call(**
>> JdbcTemplate.java:985)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**simple.AbstractJdbcCall.**
>> executeCallInternal(**AbstractJdbcCall.java:368)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**simple.AbstractJdbcCall.**
>> doExecute(AbstractJdbcCall.**java:342)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**simple.SimpleJdbcCall.execute(**
>> SimpleJdbcCall.java:164)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.**dbbroker.**SimpleJdbcCallsHandler.**
>> executeImpl(**SimpleJdbcCallsHandler.java:**124)
>> [engine-dal.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.**dbbroker.**SimpleJdbcCallsHandler.**
>> executeModification(**SimpleJdbcCallsHandler.java:**37)
>> [engine-dal.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.dao.**BusinessEntitySnapshotDAODbFac**adeImpl.save(
>> **BusinessEntitySnapshotDAODbFac**adeImpl.java:84)
>> [engine-dal.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**context.**DefaultCompensationContext.**
>> stateChanged(**DefaultCompensationContext.**java:138)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**ActivateVdsCommand$1.**runInTransaction(**
>> ActivateVdsCommand.java:60)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**ActivateVdsCommand$1.**runInTransaction(**
>> ActivateVdsCommand.java:53)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.**transaction.**TransactionSupport.**
>> executeInNewTransaction(**TransactionSupport.java:204)
>> [engine-utils.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**ActivateVdsCommand.**executeCommand(**
>> ActivateVdsCommand.java:53)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**CommandBase.**ExecuteWithoutTransaction(**
>> CommandBase.java:804)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**CommandBase.**executeActionInTransactionScop*
>> *e(CommandBase.java:896)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**CommandBase.runInTransaction(**
>> CommandBase.java:1203)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.**transaction.**TransactionSupport.**
>> executeInNewTransaction(**TransactionSupport.java:204)
>> [engine-utils.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.**transaction.**TransactionSupport.**
>> executeInRequired(**TransactionSupport.java:142)
>> [engine-utils.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.**transaction.**TransactionSupport.**
>> executeInScope(**TransactionSupport.java:109)
>> [engine-utils.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**CommandBase.Execute(**CommandBase.java:911)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**CommandBase.ExecuteAction(**CommandBase.java:268)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**MultipleActionsRunner.**
>> executeValidatedCommands(**MultipleActionsRunner.java:**182)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**MultipleActionsRunner.**RunCommands(**
>> MultipleActionsRunner.java:**162)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.**MultipleActionsRunner$1.run(**
>> MultipleActionsRunner.java:84)
>> [engine-bll.jar:]
>> at
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.**threadpool.ThreadPoolUtil$**
>> InternalWrapperRunnable.run(**ThreadPoolUtil.java:64)
>> [engine-utils.jar:]
>> at
>> java.util.concurrent.**Executors$RunnableAdapter.**
>> call(Executors.java:471)
>> [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> at
>> java.util.concurrent.**FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(**FutureTask.java:334)
>> [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> at java.util.concurrent.**FutureTask.run(FutureTask.**java:166)
>> [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> at
>> java.util.concurrent.**ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(**
>> ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110)
>> [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> at
>> java.util.concurrent.**ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(**
>> ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603)
>> [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.**java:722) [rt.jar:1.7.0_09-icedtea]
>> Caused by: org.postgresql.util.**PSQLException: ERROR: function
>> uuid_generate_v1() does not exist
>> Hint: No function matches the given name and argument types. You
>> might need to add explicit type casts.
>> Where: PL/pgSQL function "insert_entity_snapshot" line 4 at SQL
>> statement
>> at
>> org.postgresql.core.v3.**QueryExecutorImpl.**receiveErrorResponse(**
>> QueryExecutorImpl.java:2062)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.postgresql.core.v3.**QueryExecutorImpl.**processResults(**
>> QueryExecutorImpl.java:1795)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.postgresql.core.v3.**QueryExecutorImpl.execute(**
>> QueryExecutorImpl.java:257)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.**AbstractJdbc2Statement.**execute(**
>> AbstractJdbc2Statement.java:**479)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.**AbstractJdbc2Statement.**executeWithFlags(**
>> AbstractJdbc2Statement.java:**367)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.**AbstractJdbc2Statement.**execute(**
>> AbstractJdbc2Statement.java:**360)
>> [postgresql-jdbc.jar:]
>> at
>> org.jboss.jca.adapters.jdbc.**CachedPreparedStatement.**execute(**
>> CachedPreparedStatement.java:**297)
>> at
>> org.jboss.jca.adapters.jdbc.**WrappedPreparedStatement.**execute(**
>> WrappedPreparedStatement.java:**404)
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**JdbcTemplate$5.**doInCallableStatement(**
>> JdbcTemplate.java:987)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>> at
>> org.springframework.jdbc.core.**JdbcTemplate.execute(**JdbcTemplate.java:936)
>> [spring-jdbc-2.5.6.SEC02.jar:**2.5.6.SEC02]
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> progress. Restored pki files from backup. Still had to reset
>> AdminPassword. Able to login to the gui. All hosts are
>> "unresponsive". The SPM host is just totally locked (but fine
>> from it's console - idle).
>>
>> Tried to reinstall one of the hosts and got a new error message:
>>
>> Error:
>>
>> vmhost5:
>>
>> * size must be between 0 and 50
>>
>>
>>
>> vmhost2 is locked as SPM host and nothing seems to allow it to be
>> reset. Found the following in engine.log:
>>
>> 2013-02-06 10:42:51,809 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.**vdsbroker.vdsbroker.**VdsBrokerCommand]
>> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-64) XML RPC error in command
>> GetCapabilitiesVDS ( Vds: vmhost2 ), the error was:
>> java.util.concurrent.**ExecutionException:
>> java.lang.reflect.**InvocationTargetException,
>> SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path
>> to requested target
>> 2013-02-06 10:42:51,818 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.**engineencryptutils.**EncryptionUtils]
>> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-57) Failed to decryptData must start with zero
>> 2013-02-06 10:42:52,513 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.**engineencryptutils.**EncryptionUtils]
>> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-62) Failed to decryptData must start with zero
>> 2013-02-06 10:42:53,245 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.**engineencryptutils.**EncryptionUtils]
>> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-60) Failed to decryptData must start with zero
>>
>> This repeats every few seconds.
>>
>> None of the vmhosts have the usual vdsm running profiles. They all
>> have:
>>
>> 19343 ? S< 0:00 /bin/bash -e /usr/share/vdsm/respawn
>> --minlifetime 10 --daemon --masterpid /var/run/vdsm/respawn.pid
>> /usr/share/vdsm/vdsm
>> 19346 ? S<l 0:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/vdsm/vdsm
>> 19366 ? S< 0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -n /usr/bin/python
>> /usr/share/vdsm/**supervdsmServer.py
>> 414b69cd-383b-48af-a82a-**7f1d042608e3 19346
>> 19367 ? S<l 0:00 /usr/bin/python
>> /usr/share/vdsm/**supervdsmServer.py
>> 414b69cd-383b-48af-a82a-**7f1d042608e3 19346
>>
>>
>> Expected to see may [vdsmd] entries in ps ax output.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Juan Hernandez
>> <jhernand at redhat.com <mailto:jhernand at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/06/2013 03:32 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>> The pki folder is likely to be a problem but the backups
>> folder is
>> populated. Is there a way to remove client certs from
>> hosts to restore
>> access with a host add process?
>>
>>
>> If you don't have the pki folder you have two problems.
>> First is that some data in the database is encrypted, namely
>> the AdminPassword. That you can solve with "engine-config -s
>> AdminPassword=interactive". Second is the certificates of
>> the hosts, the easy way to solve that is to re-install them
>> (from the ovirt-engine GUI, no need to re-install the
>> operating system) that will generate new certificates.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2013 9:24 AM, "Juan Hernandez"
>> <jhernand at redhat.com <mailto:jhernand at redhat.com>
>> <mailto:jhernand at redhat.com
>>
>> <mailto:jhernand at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/06/2013 03:02 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>> as things stand now:
>>
>> I manually reinstalled 3.1, then dropped the
>> engine database and
>> restored from the backup. There were some
>> errors at the end.
>> Even though
>> I used all the same passwords, the
>> admin at internal account was not
>> working. Used engine-config -s
>> LocalAdminPassword='*****' to
>> fix. On log
>> in, everything is down, offline, unreachable.
>> No hosts can be
>> contacted.
>> No storage is connected. Can't add a new host.
>>
>> crud.
>>
>> I copied the database backup and removed all
>> the db creation part
>> leaving just the data "copy into..." section
>> (that was fun). Ran
>> engine-cleanup then engine-setup then tried to
>> restore just the
>> data.
>>
>> no joy there either.
>>
>> The system is CentOS 6.3 as are the hosts. This
>> ran wonderfully
>> until I
>> goofed trying to get the cli and sdk updated.
>> Without the database
>> working, I have no way to know what vm is what
>> in the ISCSI LVM
>> storage
>> system to even export to another platform.
>>
>> So I'm assuming my next step is panic (or total
>> reinstall from bare
>> iron?). I'm setting this up at work and today
>> is my last day as I'm
>> moving to a new job at a totally different
>> organization. I'd hate to
>> walk out and lose all the windows VMs and
>> templates that were
>> built over
>> the last 2 months.
>>
>>
>> Do you still have the original backup of the
>> database and the
>> contents of the original /etc/pki/ovirt-engine
>> directory? With those
>> two things it is possible to recover.
>>
>> I would suggest the following procedure:
>>
>> 1. Make a clean installation of 3.1, exactly the
>> same version that
>> you had before trying to update (make a backup of
>> the database and
>> of the /etc/pki/ovirt-engine directory before, just
>> in case). During
>> this installation use the answers that you used
>> during the initial
>> installation (specially the passwords).
>>
>> 2. Stop the engine, then drop and recover the
>> database as you
>> already did.
>>
>> 3. Restore the contents of the
>> /etc/pki/ovirt-engine directory.
>>
>> 4. Start the engine.
>>
>> You should be able to log in with the same
>> credentials that you used
>> in the original installation.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jim Kinney
>> <jim.kinney at gmail.com <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>>
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>>**>__> wrote:
>>
>> added 3.2 lines to dre ovirt yum repo (and
>> disabled 3.1 -
>> probably
>> not good) and did engine-upgrade.
>>
>> Process choked at opening the CA cert and
>> proceeded to
>> "rollback".
>> Didn't actually roll back as 3.1 repo was
>> disabled.
>>
>> System still has 3.2 installed. Did yum
>> update to pull in the
>> cli/sdk 3.2 (wish I had done that first!).
>>
>> Engine starts but fails to open CA to run
>> gui. found
>> following in log:
>>
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,825 ERROR
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.
>> engineencryptutils.____**EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC service thread
>> 1-16) Can't
>> load keystore from file
>> "/etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.____**keystore".
>>
>>
>> IOException: DerInputStream.getLength():
>> lengthTag=109, too
>> big.
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,826 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.____**engineencryptutils.____**
>> EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Failed to decrypt
>> java.io.IOException:
>> DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=109,
>> too big.
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,827 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.___**_dbbroker.generic.____**
>> DBConfigUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Failed to decrypt
>> value for property
>> TruststorePass will be used encrypted value
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,829 WARN
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.utils._**___ConfigUtilsBase]
>> (MSC
>>
>>
>> service thread
>> 1-16) Could not find enum value for
>> option: CertificatePassword
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,830 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.____**engineencryptutils.____**
>> EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Can't load keystore
>> from file
>> "/etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.____**keystore".
>>
>> IOException:
>>
>> DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=109,
>> too big.
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,830 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.____**engineencryptutils.____**
>> EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Failed to decrypt
>> java.io.IOException:
>> DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=109,
>> too big.
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,831 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.___**_dbbroker.generic.____**
>> DBConfigUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Failed to decrypt
>> value for property
>> LocalAdminPassword will be used encrypted
>> value
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,833 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.____**engineencryptutils.____**
>> EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Can't load keystore
>> from file
>> "/etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.____**keystore".
>>
>> IOException:
>>
>> DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=109,
>> too big.
>> 2013-02-05 14:02:40,834 ERROR
>>
>>
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.____**engineencryptutils.____**
>> EncryptionUtils]
>>
>> (MSC
>>
>> service thread 1-16) Failed to decrypt
>> java.io.IOException:
>> DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=109,
>> too big.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Michael
>> Pasternak
>> <mpastern at redhat.com
>> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com
>> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com>>
>> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com
>> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com
>> <mailto:mpastern at redhat.com>>>**> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> On 02/04/2013 08:33 PM, Jim Kinney
>> wrote:
>> > I'm trying to setup a way to
>> restart a large group
>> of windows
>> vms on a schedule. I'm getting a
>> connection failure
>> that seems
>> related to the use of https but I'm
>> not sure.
>> >
>> > error: __init__() got an unexpected
>> keyword argument
>> 'source_address'
>>
>> This error is caused by running
>> ovirt-sdk on a older
>> version of
>> python (less then python27),
>> please upgrade your sdk/cli with one
>> shipped in 3.2 (it's
>> backward compatible to 3.1).
>>
>> >
>> > I ran:
>> > ovirt-shell -A <path to server
>> cert/certfile
>> exported from
>> browser> -c
>> >
>> > and my .ovirtshellrc is:
>> >
>> > [ovirt-shell]
>> > username = "admin at internal"
>> > url = https://my.internal.url/api
>> > #insecure = False
>> > #filter = False
>> > #timeout = -1
>> > password = **********************
>> >
>> >
>> > I tried putting the ca_cert = <path
>> to cert> but
>> that clearly
>> was not allowed in .ovirtshellrc
>>
>> not related, but supported in 3.2 cli.
>>
>> >
>> > ideas?
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>> ////
>> ////Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
>> What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a
>> dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>> ////
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>> James P. Kinney III
>> ////
>> ////Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What
>> you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on
>> his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>> ////
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*Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain
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It won't fatten the dog.
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