[Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Zhou Zheng Sheng
zhshzhou at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Wed Sep 4 03:12:27 EDT 2013
on 2013/09/04 14:59, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 21:25 , Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/03/2013 05:48 PM, Jakub Bittner wrote:
>>> Dne 3.9.2013 15:50, Itamar Heim napsal(a):
>>>> On 09/03/2013 03:58 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>>>> hi
>>>>>
>>>>> in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i
>>>>> download it ?
>>>>
>>>> go/no-go on 3.3 release is happening right now...
>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu should list in ther agent list. when you want to create
>>>>> vm's in
>>>>> the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other
>>>>> OS's.
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to
>>>>> list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Itamar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi again
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> added in which list?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > about installation
>>>>>
>>>>> i have to install ovirt packages by local repository
>>>>> and there is
>>>>> problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt
>>>>> manager you
>>>>> need to
>>>>> install packages that need to internet .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> why do you need internet? you just need the host to be
>>>>> configured
>>>>> with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as
>>>>> well?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim
>>>>> <iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi
>>>>>
>>>>> please add support from solaris , ubuntu and
>>>>> other OS's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's -
>>>>> i can't
>>>>> tell you
>>>>> if they work or not.
>>>>> you can now easily add on your own more OSs as
>>>>> well:
>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info
>>>>>
>>>>> guest agent for ubuntu should be working.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > installation is a little hard specially in an
>>>>> evironment without
>>>>> > internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> can you please share more on the issues you faced?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Itamar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck
>>>>> <dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>>
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>>>
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>>>>__> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> | From: "Karli Sjöberg"
>>>>> <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>>
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>>>
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>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>> <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>>>__>__>
>>>>> | To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>
>>>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com
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>>>>>
>>>>> | Cc: users at ovirt.org
>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org> <mailto:users at ovirt.org
>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
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>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>>>>> <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>>>, "Jan-Olov
>>>>> Persson"
>>>>> <jan-olov.persson at slu.se
>>>>> <mailto:jan-olov.persson at slu.se>
>>>>> <mailto:jan-olov.persson at slu.__se
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>>>>> <mailto:jan-olov.persson at slu
>>>>> <mailto:jan-olov.persson at slu>.
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>>>>> <mailto:jan-olov.persson at slu>.>______se
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013
>>>>> 10:42:52 AM
>>>>> | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you
>>>>> want next
>>>>> in oVirt?
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Hi,
>>>>> |
>>>>> | I would like to see a more advanced
>>>>> type of
>>>>> Power-Saving
>>>>> Cluster
>>>>> policy,
>>>>> | where an empty Host gets put into a
>>>>> sleep-mode,
>>>>> so that
>>>>> it draws
>>>>> as little
>>>>> | power as possible and can be awoken by
>>>>> engine
>>>>> when VM's
>>>>> starts to
>>>>> use more
>>>>> | resources.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | A typical scenario would be that all
>>>>> VM's are spread
>>>>> evenly over
>>>>> Hosts during
>>>>> | day-time, when customers are
>>>>> actively using
>>>>> their VM's.
>>>>> But then
>>>>> during
>>>>> | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into
>>>>> maybe one
>>>>> or two
>>>>> Hosts, and
>>>>> the other
>>>>> | Hosts can be put to sleep to save
>>>>> energy, and
>>>>> then woken
>>>>> up in the
>>>>> morning
>>>>> | again.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | /Karli
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Karli,
>>>>> this should be achievable for you in 3.3
>>>>> with some
>>>>> minor
>>>>> work on
>>>>> your side;
>>>>> In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new
>>>>> scheduler, which
>>>>> allows
>>>>> you to run
>>>>> your own
>>>>> code when doing VM placement and load
>>>>> balancing.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can write your own load balancing
>>>>> logic
>>>>> replacing the
>>>>> built-in one,
>>>>> which will switch to power saving at a
>>>>> given time.
>>>>> Once a
>>>>> host has no
>>>>> running VMs, your balance logic can
>>>>> switch it into
>>>>> S3 state
>>>>> (sleep), and
>>>>> when needed or in a given time use
>>>>> wake-on-lan to
>>>>> resume all
>>>>> suspended hosts.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want we can guide you through it
>>>>> post 3.3
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doron
>>>>>
>>>>> | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400
>>>>> skrev Itamar
>>>>> Heim:
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> | earlier in the year we did a survey for
>>>>> feature
>>>>> requests /
>>>>> improvements
>>>>> | / etc.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | since a lot of things were added, and
>>>>> priorities
>>>>> usually
>>>>> change, I'd
>>>>> | like to ask again for "what do you need
>>>>> the most
>>>>> from
>>>>> oVirt / what are
>>>>> | your pain points" next?
>>>>> |
>>>>> | below[1] I've listed my understanding
>>>>> of what
>>>>> already
>>>>> went in from
>>>>> | previous survey requests (to various
>>>>> degrees of
>>>>> coverage).
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Thanks,
>>>>> | Itamar
>>>>> |
>>>>> | [1] from the top 12
>>>>> | V Allow disk resize
>>>>> | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring -
>>>>> via a ui
>>>>> plugin
>>>>> | V Highly Available engine - via hosted
>>>>> engine[2]
>>>>> | V Open vSwitch integration - via
>>>>> neutron integration
>>>>> | X Allow cloning VMs without template
>>>>> | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates
>>>>> through
>>>>> engine[3]
>>>>> | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM
>>>>> - via
>>>>> hosted engine[2]
>>>>> | V Enable guest configuration (root
>>>>> password, SSH
>>>>> keys,
>>>>> network) via
>>>>> | guest agent in engine - via
>>>>> cloud-init
>>>>> | X Integrate v2v into engine
>>>>> | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second
>>>>> network for
>>>>> HA/increased
>>>>> | bandwidth[4]
>>>>> | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots
>>>>> and VM
>>>>> export for
>>>>> backups in
>>>>> | engine[5]
>>>>> | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via
>>>>> mime based
>>>>> launch
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Other items mentioned in previous
>>>>> survey which
>>>>> should be
>>>>> covered
>>>>> by now:
>>>>> | - Fix timeout when adding local host
>>>>> during
>>>>> all-in-one
>>>>> configuration
>>>>> | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS,
>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>> Enterprise Linux)
>>>>> | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed
>>>>> from the same
>>>>> template at the same
>>>>> | time
>>>>> | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS
>>>>> | - Show IP addresses in Virtual
>>>>> Machines->Network
>>>>> Interfaces
>>>>> | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called
>>>>> Neutron)
>>>>> | - noVNC support
>>>>> | - Support spice.html5 and websocket
>>>>> proxy
>>>>> | - Add other guest OSes to list
>>>>> | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6]
>>>>> | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing
>>>>> | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based
>>>>> launch)
>>>>> | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows
>>>>> (not sure
>>>>> this will
>>>>> happen, but
>>>>> | mime based launch allows using
>>>>> firefox now)
>>>>> | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian
>>>>> (should be
>>>>> covered via
>>>>> mime based
>>>>> | launch)
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> | [2] hosted engine is in active
>>>>> development, but not
>>>>> released yet.
>>>>> | [3] host update is supported, but
>>>>> not for
>>>>> general yum update.
>>>>> | [4] a lot of improvements were done
>>>>> in this
>>>>> space, but
>>>>> i'm not sure if
>>>>> | they cover this exact use case
>>>>> | [5] backup api is now being pushed to
>>>>> master, and
>>>>> orchestration of
>>>>> | backups should probably happen via
>>>>> 3rd part
>>>>> backup
>>>>> vendors?
>>>>> | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet,
>>>>> but ubuntu is
>>>>> covered for the
>>>>> | basic functionality of the guest
>>>>> agent.
>>>>> |
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>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> | --
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Med Vänliga Hälsningar
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------______--------------------------__--__--__-------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> | Karli Sjöberg
>>>>> | Swedish University of Agricultural
>>>>> Sciences
>>>>> | Box 7079 (Visiting Address
>>>>> Kronåsvägen 8)
>>>>> | S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
>>>>> | Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66
>>>>> | karli.sjoberg at slu.se
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I dont have Ubuntu in Operating system picker in new VM creating dialog.
>>> Iam using oVirt 3.3RC.
>>
>> Roy - didn't this one make 3.3? i suggest backporting it to 3.3.1 if didn't and possible:
>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/16680/
>
> it didn't make it
> probably also Ie508a8828caedf4cb8fdf971e14139404f7dded3 (core: osinfo - Remove unassigned and streamline all ids with the REST ids.)
>
>>
>>> Someone wrote that there is working ovirt-agent
>>> for Ubuntu, but I can not find any info about it. Is there a deb package
>>> somewhere or howto about deploying it?
>>
>> not sure if anyone packed the .deb, but the guest agent is supposed to be there.
>> Vinzenz?
>
> it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly
> build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it
>
> Tahnks,
> michal
>
Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I
can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once
it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to
install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org
for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we
will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just
a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place.
>>
>>>
>>> I would suggest another feature (maybe it is covered by external
>>> providers). Network NAT for VMs (with buildin DHCP).
>>>
>>> Thank you.
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>>
>
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