[ovirt-users] VM Deployment By Template

Punit Dambiwal hypunit at gmail.com
Thu Aug 28 08:23:39 UTC 2014


Hi Ovirt&KVM,

Here is the details :-
1. Ovirt :- 3.4
2. VM :- Centos 6.5
3. VM Disk Partition :- Based on LVM
4. Base Datastorage :- Gluster

I am able to expend the disk...but the disk expand doesn't touch the
partition table..so after expand all the existing partition remain with the
same disk size....now i need to manually create another partition and add
it in to Volgroup and resize the logical volume...

Thanks,
Punit


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM, OvirtAndKvm <oVirt at goproject.info> wrote:

> Punit,
>
> What file system is your VM's partition, what operating system and version
> ?
>
> A question to others, if the doco says "we support "disk resize" since
> 3.4", for what virtual disk type, and which operating systems and their
> partition types are supported by this.  I would have believed you would
> needed to have used LVM and then add the new disk space as a new LUN, and
> map the new lun, while also using a file system that allows for expansion.
> Some file systems like XFS can be extended (i.e. grow) while being mounted.
> This is about the limit of my knowledge so if you know more, please let us
> know what is possible.
>
>
> > > >                              3. we support "disk resize" since 3.4
> > > >                 (iirc), which you can
> > > >                         do post
> > > >                              VM provisioning.
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_node/parted_31.html
> Grow partition 1, into the adjacent free space:
>
> (parted) resize 1 0.063 874.9
>
> http://geekpeek.net/resize-filesystem-fdisk-resize2fs/
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/resize-your-disks-on-the-fly-with-lvm
>
> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37670_01/E37355/html/ol_grow_xfs.html
> You can use the *xfs_growfs* command to increase the size of a mounted
> XFS file system if there is space on the underlying devices to accommodate
> the change.
>
> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Online_Virtual_Drive_Resize
> Features/Online Virtual Drive Resize
> QEMU-GA
>
>    - support for notifying the guest and updating the size of the visible
>    disk: [Yet?] *To be integrated*
>
>
>
> http://serverfault.com/questions/122042/kvm-online-disk-resize
> AFAIK, this is not possible -- you can add new disk images, and as you
> point out you could also add new images to an LVM volume, but in order to
> resize an active, bootable disk image you need to be able to shut it down
> and edit the partitions.
>
> It is possible to move a Linux system between disks while it's running.
> The limitation is that you cannot alter *partitions* on a disk that has
> *partitions* in use.
>
> To do this your root filesystem must be on an LVM, this often means that
> you have to have a separate boot filesystem (this is not, however,
> essential, it just makes things easier)
>
>
>
>
>
> At Thursday, 28-08-2014 on 16:49 Shahar Havivi wrote:
>
> On 28.08.14 11:05, Punit Dambiwal wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Please help me to solve this problem...or suggest me any workaround ??
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Punit
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 19:52 +0800, Punit Dambiwal wrote:
> > > > Hi Itamar,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's the same as i used and discussed in last reply...create the VM
> > > > with 1GB virtual template and expand the disk size after
> > > > deployment...but the problem here is disk will expand or resize...but
> > > > it will not make any changes in the existing partition table..that
> > > > means after expand disk all the existing partition will remain
> > > > same....then you need to manual login in to server and make the
> > > > changes with the help of fdisk and lvm commands..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for the way we can resize the disk...and at the same
> time
> > > > when the disk will expand...it should be resize the partition
> table...
> > >
> > > I think this is what you were after:
> > > "QEMU-GA
> > >
> > >     support for notifying the guest and updating the size of the
> visible
> > > disk: To be integrated "
> > >
> > > So maybe you could post an RFE on that for "qemu-ga"? Help testing?
> > >
> > > /K
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the cloud-init...custom script can do this or not ??
> You may be able to do that with cloud-init custom-script section,
> The following link will show you how to add a file to the client, you may
> write a code
> that change the partition table, you need to make the file executable and
> put
> it in a init section (such as /etc/init.d sections), the only problem is
> that
> it may be too late since cloud-init may be loaded after that phase... (so
> maybe other place...)
>
> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#writing-out-arbitrary-files
>
> Another option is to set a command under this section:
>
> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#run-commands-on-first-boot
>
>   Shahar.
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Punit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > > >         On 08/27/2014 12:47 PM, Punit Dambiwal wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                 Hi Itamar,
> > > >
> > > >                 To edit the disk size are you referring this "Another
> > > >                 way i got is
> > > >                 create the VM with 1GB virtual template and expand
> the
> > > >                 disk size after
> > > >                 deployment...but the problem here is disk will
> > > >                 expand...but it will not
> > > >                 done any changes in the existing partition
> table..that
> > > >                 means after
> > > >                 expand disk you need to manual login in to server and
> > > >                 make the changes
> > > >                 with the help of fdisk and lvm commands..."
> > > >
> > > >                 Or it's different then the upper one...please let me
> > > >                 know how to perform
> > > >                 this...if any screen shot you can provide for better
> > > >                 understanding..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Online_Virtual_Drive_Resize
> > > >         adding derez for follow up questions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                 Thanks,
> > > >                 Punit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Itamar Heim
> > > >                 <iheim at redhat.com
> > > >
> > > >                 <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                     On 08/27/2014 12:08 PM, Punit Dambiwal wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                         Hi Itamar,
> > > >
> > > >                         Thanks for the update....Yes.. i want to
> > > >                 create different size
> > > >                         VM with
> > > >                         the same OS template...
> > > >
> > > >                         ------------
> > > >                         3. we support "disk resize" since 3.4 (iirc),
> > > >                 which you can do
> > > >                         post VM
> > > >                         provisioning.
> > > >
> > > >                         considering #3, then #1 should be easy to
> > > >                 support as well these
> > > >                         days.
> > > >                         please open an RFE.
> > > >                         ------------
> > > >
> > > >                         Could you please more elaborate point number
> > > >                 3...how to use
> > > >                         it..i will
> > > >                         go with this one ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                     iirc, you just need to edit the disk size when vm
> > > >                 is down or up (for
> > > >                     up, only for specific disk interfaces,
> virtio-blk,
> > > >                 not ide, iirc)
> > > >
> > > >                         Thanks,
> > > >                         Punit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                         On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Itamar Heim
> > > >                 <iheim at redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > >                         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com
> > > >                 <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                              On 08/27/2014 04:18 AM, Punit Dambiwal
> > > >                 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                                  Hi Michal,
> > > >
> > > >                                  I want to deploy the VM with the
> > > >                 template but the
> > > >                         problem is in
> > > >                                  ovirt
> > > >                                  when you deploy the VM by template
> it
> > > >                 copy the whole
> > > >                         image(even
> > > >                                  thin or
> > > >                                  thick disk)...like if i have 40GB
> > > >                 virtual size (actual
> > > >                         size 1GB)
> > > >                                  disk....it will copy the whole 40GB
> > > >                 to provision the
> > > >                         virtual
> > > >                                  machine....so if i want to deploy 10
> > > >                 VM simultaneous
> > > >                         then it
> > > >                                  will copy
> > > >                                  4TB data and take long time to
> > > >                 provision....
> > > >
> > > >                                  I want the way i can make the
> > > >                 template with small
> > > >                         size....and once i
> > > >                                  choose to create the virtual machine
> > > >                 with 40GB...the VM
> > > >                         deploy
> > > >                                  with the
> > > >                                  small template on the 40GB disk...
> is
> > > >                 it possible with
> > > >                         ovirt.. ??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                              so you want to provision a VM with a
> > > >                 different disk size
> > > >                         than template.
> > > >                              good point. some thoughts:
> > > >                              1. for thinly provisioned (qcow2) - its
> > > >                 COW, hence the same
> > > >                         size.
> > > >                              2. for clone - actually, no reason
> > > >                 shouldn't be supported
> > > >                         easily.
> > > >                              3. we support "disk resize" since 3.4
> > > >                 (iirc), which you can
> > > >                         do post
> > > >                              VM provisioning.
> > > >
> > > >                              considering #3, then #1 should be easy
> to
> > > >                 support as well these
> > > >                              days. please open an RFE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                                  Thanks,
> > > >                                  Punit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                                  On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:01 PM,
> > > >                 Michal Skrivanek
> > > >                                  <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>
> > > >                                  <mailto:
> michal.skrivanek at __redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>>
> > > >
> > > >                                  <mailto:michal.skrivanek@
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek@>__red__hat.com
> > > >                 <http://redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                                  <mailto:
> michal.skrivanek at __redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>>>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                                       On Aug 26, 2014, at 12:01 ,
> > > >                 Punit Dambiwal
> > > >                                  <hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>
> > > >                                       <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                                        > Hi Michal,
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > 2. I find disk size can not
> > > >                 modify at the time
> > > >                         of VM
> > > >                                       provisioning,is there any way
> to
> > > >                 modify the VM
> > > >                         disk size ??
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > well, not really, AFAIK.
> > > >                                        > create another disk, move
> > > >                 your data, remove the
> > > >                         original Or
> > > >                                       create a bigger thin
> provisioned
> > > >                 disk at the
> > > >                         beginning...
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > I didn't understand the
> > > >                 mean...i can create the
> > > >                         another
> > > >                                       disk...it's ok...but how to
> move
> > > >                 the data from the
> > > >                         existing
> > > >                                  disk to
> > > >                                       new disk at the time of the VM
> > > >                 deployment... ?? is
> > > >                         there
> > > >                                  any way to
> > > >                                       move the data.. ??
> > > >                                       Hi,
> > > >
> > > >                                       You would have to do that
> inside
> > > >                 the guest…the
> > > >                         same way as
> > > >                                  you would
> > > >                                       do it on real hardware…mount
> > > >                 both disks, move the
> > > >                         relevant data
> > > >                                       not trivial and not automated
> > > >
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > Another question is there
> any
> > > >                 way to mount the
> > > >                         img like
> > > >                                  i will
> > > >                                       create the VM with blank
> > > >                 template with my
> > > >                         preferred disk
> > > >                                  size and
> > > >                                       leter on install the OS through
> > > >                 any OS template
> > > >                         ??? i know
> > > >                                  i can
> > > >                                       install the OS through CD-ISO
> > > >                 but i don't want the
> > > >                         manual
> > > >                                  installation…
> > > >
> > > >                                       so you want to have a
> > > >                 preinstalled OS…so how did
> > > >                         you want
> > > >                                  to use it?
> > > >                                       I probably don't understand
> what
> > > >                 are you trying to
> > > >                         achieve.
> > > >                                       Anything else than having a
> > > >                 Template with OS and
> > > >                         you deploy
> > > >                                  VMs from
> > > >                                       that….you need to change disk
> > > >                 sizes for each such
> > > >                         VM? Could
> > > >                                  it be
> > > >                                       done by adding an additional
> > > >                 disk?
> > > >
> > > >                                       Thanks,
> > > >                                       michal
> > > >
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > Thanks,
> > > >                                        > Punit
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:51
> > > >                 PM, Michal Skrivanek
> > > >                                       <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>
> > > >                                  <mailto:
> michal.skrivanek at __redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>>
> > > >
> > > >                                  <mailto:michal.skrivanek@
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek@>__red__hat.com
> > > >                 <http://redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                                  <mailto:
> michal.skrivanek at __redhat.com
> > > >                         <mailto:michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>>>>
> > > >
> > > >                                       wrote:
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > On Aug 26, 2014, at 05:26 ,
> > > >                 Punit Dambiwal
> > > >                                  <hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>
> > > >
> > > >                                       <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > > Hi All,
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > I have some questions
> > > >                 regarding the VM deployment
> > > >                                  through OS
> > > >                                       template...
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > 1. I have imported centos
> > > >                 template from openstack
> > > >                                  glance (the
> > > >                                       actual size of the template is
> > > >                 16GB but used is
> > > >                         1GB)...now my
> > > >                                       question is if i deploy the new
> > > >                 VM with this
> > > >                         template,the
> > > >                                  process
> > > >                                       will copy the whole 16GB or
> just
> > > >                 1 GB to create
> > > >                         the new VM ??
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > if you deploy with thin
> > > >                 provisioned disks it
> > > >                         should be 1GB
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > 2. I find disk size can
> not
> > > >                 modify at the
> > > >                         time of VM
> > > >                                       provisioning,is there any way
> to
> > > >                 modify the VM
> > > >                         disk size ??
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > well, not really, AFAIK.
> > > >                                        > create another disk, move
> > > >                 your data, remove the
> > > >                         original.
> > > >                                        > Or create a bigger thin
> > > >                 provisioned disk at the
> > > >                         beginning
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > Thanks,
> > > >                                        > > Punit
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at
> > > >                 5:42 PM, Punit Dambiwal
> > > >                                       <hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>
> > > >
> > > >                                  <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >                         <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com
> > > >                 <mailto:hypunit at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > > >                                        > > Hi All,
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > I have some questions
> > > >                 regarding the VM deployment
> > > >                                  through OS
> > > >                                       template...
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > 1. I have imported centos
> > > >                 template from openstack
> > > >                                  glance (the
> > > >                                       actual size of the template is
> > > >                 16GB but used is
> > > >                         1GB)...now my
> > > >                                       question is if i deploy the new
> > > >                 VM with this
> > > >                         template,the
> > > >                                  process
> > > >                                       will copy the whole 16GB or
> just
> > > >                 1 GB to create
> > > >                         the new VM ??
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > 2. I find disk size can
> not
> > > >                 modify at the
> > > >                         time of VM
> > > >                                       provisioning,is there any way
> to
> > > >                 modify the VM
> > > >                         disk size ??
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        > > Thanks,
> > > >                                        > > Punit
> > > >                                        > >
> > > >                                        >
> > > >                                        >
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