[Users] oVirt 3.3.3 RC EL6 Live Snapshot

Dafna Ron dron at redhat.com
Tue Feb 4 08:44:52 UTC 2014


On 02/04/2014 08:20 AM, Elad Ben Aharon wrote:
>  From what I saw in the thread, libvirt pauses the VM, which effects the continuity of its operation.
> I checked it also in one of the latest builds of 3.3 and I observed the same behaviour:
> 2014-02-04 10:18:29,441 INFO  [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo] (DefaultQuartzScheduler_Worker-22) [5cbc7ab5] VM nfs2-1 86728f5c-3583-420f-9536-bfabaf11b235 moved from Up --> Paused
>
> Dafna, I saw you've already opened a bug on that:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057587

just proves I'm getting senile :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dafna Ron" <dron at redhat.com>
> To: "Maor Lipchuk" <mlipchuk at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Steve Dainard" <sdainard at miovision.com>, "Elad Ben Aharon" <ebenahar at redhat.com>, "Karli Sjöberg" <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>, users at ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:15:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.3.3 RC EL6 Live Snapshot
>
> Maor I am not saying that we are not doing a live snapshot :) I am
> saying that we need a print in the log that states live snapshot command
> was called i.e: Print in the log: LiveSnapshotCommand -> this can call
> to the rest of snapshotVDSCreateCommand.
>
>
> On 02/03/2014 07:38 PM, Maor Lipchuk wrote:
>> On 02/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dafna Ron wrote:
>>> On 02/03/2014 05:34 PM, Maor Lipchuk wrote:
>>>> On 02/03/2014 07:18 PM, Dafna Ron wrote:
>>>>> Maor,
>>>>>
>>>>> If snapshotVDSCommand is for live snapshot, what is the offline create
>>>>> snapshot command?
>>>> It is the CreateSnapshotVdsCommand which calls createVolume in VDSM
>>> but we need to be able to know that a live snapshot was sent and not an
>>> offline snapshot.
>> Yes, at the logs we can see the all process :
>>
>> First a request to create a snapshot (new volume) sent to VDSM:
>> 2014-02-02 09:41:09,557 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.CreateSnapshotVDSCommand]
>> (pool-6-thread-49) [67ea047a] START, CreateSnapshotVDSCommand(
>> storagePoolId = fcb89071-6cdb-4972-94d1-c9324cebf814,
>> ignoreFailoverLimit = false, storageDomainId =
>> a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5, imageGroupId =
>> c1cb6b66-655e-48c3-8568-4975295eb037, imageSizeInBytes = 21474836480,
>> volumeFormat = COW, newImageId = 6d8c80a4-328f-4a53-86a2-a4080a2662ce,
>> newImageDescription = , imageId = 5085422e-6592-415a-9da3-9e43dac9374b,
>> sourceImageGroupId = c1cb6b66-655e-48c3-8568-4975295eb037), log id: 7875f3f5
>>
>> after the snapshot gets created :
>> 2014-02-02 09:41:20,553 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateAllSnapshotsFromVmCommand]
>> (pool-6-thread-49) Ending command successfully:
>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateAllSnapshotsFromVmCommand
>>
>> then the engine calls the live snapshot (see also [1])
>> 2014-02-02 09:41:30,234 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SnapshotVDSCommand]
>> (pool-6-thread-49) FINISH, SnapshotVDSCommand, log id: 7e0d7872
>>
>>> Elad, somewhere in this flow we need to know that the snapshot was taken
>>> on a running vm :) this seems like a bug to me.
>>>>> we did not say that live snapshot did not succeed :)  we said that the
>>>>> vm is paused and restarted - which is something that should not happen
>>>>> for live snapshot (or at least never did before).
>>>> It's not sure that the restart is related to the live snapshot. but that
>>>> should be observed in the libvirt/vdsm logs.
>>> yes, I am sure because the user is reporting it and the logs show it...
>>>>> as I wrote before, we know that vdsm is reporting the vm as paused, that
>>>>> is because libvirt is reporting the vm as paused and I think that its
>>>>> happening because libvirt is not doing a live snapshot and so pauses the
>>>>> vm while taking the snapshot.
>>>> That sounds logic to me, it's need to be checked with libvirt, if that
>>>> kind of behaviour could happen.
>>> Elad, can you please try to reproduce and open a bug to libvirt?
>>>
>>>>> Dafna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/2014 05:08 PM, Maor Lipchuk wrote:
>>>>>>     From the engine logs it seems that indeed live snapshot is called
>>>>>> (The
>>>>>> command is snapshotVDSCommand see [1]).
>>>>>> This is done right after the snapshot has been created in the VM and it
>>>>>> signals the qemu process to start using the new volume created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When live snapshot does not succeed we should see in the log something
>>>>>> like "Wasn't able to live snapshot due to error:...", but it does not
>>>>>> appear so it seems that this worked out fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At some point I can see in the logs that VDSM reports to the engine
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the VM is paused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> 2014-02-02 09:41:20,564 INFO
>>>>>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SnapshotVDSCommand]
>>>>>> (pool-6-thread-49) START, SnapshotVDSCommand(HostName = ovirt002,
>>>>>> HostId
>>>>>> = 3080fb61-2d03-4008-b47f-9b66276a4257,
>>>>>> vmId=e261e707-a21f-4ae8-9cff-f535f4430446), log id: 7e0d7872
>>>>>> 2014-02-02 09:41:21,119 INFO
>>>>>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
>>>>>> (DefaultQuartzScheduler_Worker-93) VM snapshot-test
>>>>>> e261e707-a21f-4ae8-9cff-f535f4430446 moved from Up --> Paused
>>>>>> 2014-02-02 09:41:30,234 INFO
>>>>>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SnapshotVDSCommand]
>>>>>> (pool-6-thread-49) FINISH, SnapshotVDSCommand, log id: 7e0d7872
>>>>>> 2014-02-02 09:41:30,238 INFO
>>>>>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateSnapshotCommand] (pool-6-thread-49)
>>>>>> [67ea047a] Ending command successfully:
>>>>>> org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateSnapshotCommand
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Maor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/03/2014 06:24 PM, Dafna Ron wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Steve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the logs I can see that the create snapshot succeeds and that the
>>>>>>> vm is resumed.
>>>>>>> the vm moves to pause as part of libvirt flows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-02-02 14:41:20.872+0000: 5843: debug :
>>>>>>> qemuProcessHandleStop:728 :
>>>>>>> Transitioned guest snapshot-test to paused state
>>>>>>> 2014-02-02 14:41:30.031+0000: 5843: debug :
>>>>>>> qemuProcessHandleResume:776
>>>>>>> : Transitioned guest snapshot-test out of paused into resumed state
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are bugs here but I am not sure yet if this is libvirt
>>>>>>> regression
>>>>>>> or engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm adding Elad and Maor since in engine logs I can't see anything
>>>>>>> calling for live snapshot (only for snapshot) - Maor, shouldn't live
>>>>>>> snapshot command be logged somewhere in the logs?
>>>>>>> Is it possible that engine is calling to create snapshot and not
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> live snapshot which is why the vm pauses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Elad, if engine is not logging live snapshot anywhere I would open
>>>>>>> a bug
>>>>>>> for engine (to print that in the logs).
>>>>>>> Also, there is a bug in vdsm log for sdc where the below is logged as
>>>>>>> ERROR and not INFO:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thread-23::ERROR::2014-02-02
>>>>>>> 09:51:19,497::sdc::137::Storage.StorageDomainCache::(_findDomain)
>>>>>>> looking for unfetched domain a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5
>>>>>>> Thread-23::ERROR::2014-02-02
>>>>>>> 09:51:19,497::sdc::154::Storage.StorageDomainCache::(_findUnfetchedDomain)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> looking for domain a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the engine was sending live snapshot or if there is no
>>>>>>> difference in
>>>>>>> the two commands in engine side than I would open a bug for libvirt
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> pausing the vm during live snapshot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dafna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/03/2014 02:41 PM, Steve Dainard wrote:
>>>>>>>> [root at ovirt002 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getStorageDomainInfo
>>>>>>>> a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5
>>>>>>>> uuid = a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5
>>>>>>>> pool = ['fcb89071-6cdb-4972-94d1-c9324cebf814']
>>>>>>>> lver = 5
>>>>>>>> version = 3
>>>>>>>> role = Master
>>>>>>>> remotePath = gluster-store-vip:/rep1
>>>>>>>> spm_id = 2
>>>>>>>> type = NFS
>>>>>>>> class = Data
>>>>>>>> master_ver = 1
>>>>>>>> name = gluster-store-rep1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Dafna Ron <dron at redhat.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:dron at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         please run vdsClient -s 0 getStorageDomainInfo
>>>>>>>>         a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Dafna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 02/02/2014 03:02 PM, Steve Dainard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Logs attached with VM running on qemu-kvm-rhev packages
>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>             On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Dafna Ron <dron at redhat.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:dron at redhat.com> <mailto:dron at redhat.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:dron at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 can you please upload full engine, vdsm, libvirt and
>>>>>>>> vm's
>>>>>>>>             qemu logs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 On 02/02/2014 02:08 AM, Steve Dainard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     I have two CentOS 6.5 Ovirt hosts (ovirt001,
>>>>>>>> ovirt002)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     I've installed the applicable qemu-kvm-rhev
>>>>>>>> packages
>>>>>>>>             from this
>>>>>>>>                     site:
>>>>>>>> http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm32/Packages/ on
>>>>>>>>             ovirt002.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     On ovirt001 if I take a live snapshot:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     Snapshot 'test qemu-kvm' creation for VM
>>>>>>>>             'snapshot-test' was
>>>>>>>>                     initiated by admin at internal.
>>>>>>>>                     The VM is paused
>>>>>>>>                     Failed to create live snapshot 'test qemu-kvm'
>>>>>>>> for VM
>>>>>>>>                     'snapshot-test'. VM restart is recommended.
>>>>>>>>                     Failed to complete snapshot 'test qemu-kvm'
>>>>>>>> creation
>>>>>>>>             for VM
>>>>>>>>                     'snapshot-test'.
>>>>>>>>                     The VM is then started, and the status for the
>>>>>>>> snapshot
>>>>>>>>                     changes to OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     On ovirt002 (with the packages from dreyou) I don't
>>>>>>>>             get any
>>>>>>>>                     messages about a snapshot failing, but my VM is
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>             paused
>>>>>>>>                     to complete the snapshot. Is there something else
>>>>>>>>             other than
>>>>>>>>                     the qemu-kvm-rhev packages that would enable this
>>>>>>>>             functionality?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     I've looked for some information on when the
>>>>>>>> packages
>>>>>>>>             would be
>>>>>>>>                     built as required in the CentOS repos, but I
>>>>>>>> don't see
>>>>>>>>                     anything definitive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/019126.html
>>>>>>>>                     Looks like one of the maintainers is waiting for
>>>>>>>>             someone to
>>>>>>>>                     tell him what flags need to be set.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     Also, another thread here:
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.ovirt.arch/1618
>>>>>>>>                     same maintainer, mentioning that he hasn't seen
>>>>>>>>             anything in
>>>>>>>>                     the bug tracker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     There is a bug here:
>>>>>>>>             https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009100 that
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>                     to have ended in finding a way for qemu to expose
>>>>>>>>             whether it
>>>>>>>>                     supports live snapshots, rather than figuring
>>>>>>>> out how
>>>>>>>>             to get
>>>>>>>>                     the CentOS team the info they need to build the
>>>>>>>>             packages with
>>>>>>>>                     the proper flags set.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     I have bcc'd both dreyou (packaged the
>>>>>>>> qemu-kvm-rhev
>>>>>>>>             packages
>>>>>>>>                     listed above) and Russ (CentOS maintainer
>>>>>>>> mentioned in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>                     other threads) if they wish to chime in and perhaps
>>>>>>>>                     collaborate on which flags, if any, should be set
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>                     qemu-kvm builds so we can get a CentOS bug report
>>>>>>>>             going and
>>>>>>>>                     hammer this out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     Thanks everyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     **crosses fingers and hopes for live snapshots
>>>>>>>> soon**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     *Steve Dainard *
>>>>>>>>                     IT Infrastructure Manager
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>>>>>>>>                     On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Steve Dainard
>>>>>>>>                     <sdainard at miovision.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com>>
>>>>>>>>                     <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                     <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:sdainard at miovision.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             How would you developers, speaking for the
>>>>>>>>                     oVirt-community,
>>>>>>>>                             propose to
>>>>>>>>                             solve this for CentOS _now_ ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             I would imagine that the easiest way is
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>             you build and
>>>>>>>>                             host this one
>>>>>>>>                             package(qemu-kvm-rhev), since you´ve
>>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>             already
>>>>>>>>                     have
>>>>>>>>                             the source
>>>>>>>>                             and recipe (since you´re already
>>>>>>>> providing it
>>>>>>>>             for RHEV
>>>>>>>>                             anyway). Then,
>>>>>>>>                             once that´s in place, it´s more a
>>>>>>>> question of
>>>>>>>>             where to
>>>>>>>>                     host the
>>>>>>>>                             packages, in what repository. Be it your
>>>>>>>> own,
>>>>>>>>             or some
>>>>>>>>                     other
>>>>>>>>                             repo set up
>>>>>>>>                             for the SIG.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             This is my view, how I as a user view this
>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         I think this is a pretty valid view.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                         What would it take to get the correct qemu
>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>             hosted
>>>>>>>>                     in the
>>>>>>>>                         ovirt repo?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Med Vänliga Hälsningar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                        
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Karli Sjöberg
>>>>>>>>                             Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
>>>>>>>>             Box 7079
>>>>>>>>                     (Visiting
>>>>>>>>                             Address
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>>>>>>>>             <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se>>
>>>>>>>>                     <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se> <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:karli.sjoberg at slu.se>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 --     Dafna Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --     Dafna Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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