[ovirt-users] Optaplanner Problem

Martin Sivak msivak at redhat.com
Tue Nov 18 10:08:36 EST 2014 

Ah,

the IE 11 issue seems to be something else. We use Angular JS for the page and the screenshot shows that the template fields weren't replaced by content.

I found couple of references to issues with Angular and IE 11. Are you able to check if IE 10 is ok so we can isolate the issue?

--
Martin Sivák
msivak at redhat.com
Red Hat Czech
RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ

----- Original Message -----
> Hi,
> No it doesn't work on IE11. You can see a screenshot here:
> http://picpaste.com/Optimizer_IE11-JFreSHvp.png
> I managed to change the logging level to INFO (by modifying standalone.xml).
> Thanks a lot!
> Sokratis
> > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:29:31 -0500
> > From: msivak at redhat.com
> > To: sokratis123k at outlook.com
> > CC: users at ovirt.org
> > Subject: Re: Optaplanner Problem
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > I disabled the security check in Firefox and it works now. Is there a
> > > similar
> > > workaround for Chrome and IE?
> > 
> > I have no idea about Chrome, but IE used to be OK. Is the issue there as
> > well (meaning they finally included the security check)?
> > 
> > > What about the server.log file? Why does it throw this error? How can I
> > > change the logging level?
> > 
> > Error? Do you mean the DEBUG message? You can configure JBoss logging in
> > the standalone.xml file (if you use standalone). But I am not a JBoss
> > expert.
> > 
> > https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/AS71/Logging+Configuration
> > 
> > It should be in /usr/share/ovirt-engine-jboss-as/ somewhere if you are
> > using Cent OS 6. The location is different if you use Fedora or RHEL.
> > 
> > --
> > Martin Sivák
> > msivak at redhat.com
> > Red Hat Czech
> > RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I disabled the security check in Firefox and it works now. Is there a
> > > similar
> > > workaround for Chrome and IE?
> > > 
> > > What about the server.log file? Why does it throw this error? How can I
> > > change the logging level?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Sokratis
> > > > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:32:47 -0500
> > > > From: msivak at redhat.com
> > > > To: sokratis123k at outlook.com
> > > > CC: users at ovirt.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Optaplanner Problem
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > we do not support the newest versions of Firefox and other browsers
> > > > yet.
> > > > This is a known issue:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Optaplanner#Data_refresh_failed:_undefined
> > > > 
> > > > that can be solved by disabling one of the browser security checks
> > > > before
> > > > we implement the SSL version of the optimizer service.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Martin Sivák
> > > > msivak at redhat.com
> > > > Red Hat Czech
> > > > RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have modified standalone.xml and replaced 127.0.0.1 with the IP
> > > > > address
> > > > > of
> > > > > the server and the connection to optimizer:8080 works correctly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Using Chrome I get "Waiting for data..."
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Using Firefox I get "Status: Data refresh failed: undefined"
> > > > > 
> > > > > I inspected the page and when I click on the tab I get the following
> > > > > errors:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Blocked loading mixed active content
> > > > > "http://optimizer:8080/ovirt-optimizer/result/00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1"[Learn
> > > > > More] angular.js:8321
> > > > > "/ovirt-engine/api/hosts" result.html:419
> > > > > Exception { message: "", result: 2153644038, name: "", filename:
> > > > > "https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js",
> > > > > lineNumber: 8321, columnNumber: 0, inner: null, data: null, stack:
> > > > > "createHttpBackend/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8321:6
> > > > > sendReq at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8180:0
> > > > > $http/serverRequest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:7921:15
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:30
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:30
> > > > > qFactory/ref/<.then/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11405:25
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$eval at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12412:15
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$digest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12224:14
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$apply at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12516:12
> > > > > bootstrap/doBootstrap/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:1382:8
> > > > > invoke at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:3869:13
> > > > > bootstrap/doBootstrap at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:1380:0
> > > > > bootstrap at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:1394:0
> > > > > angularInit at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:1307:4
> > > > > @https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:21459:4
> > > > > trigger at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:2509:6
> > > > > createEventHandler/eventHandler/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:2780:6
> > > > > forEach at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:330:10
> > > > > createEventHandler/eventHandler at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:2779:4
> > > > > " } angular.js:9778
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Updating host 1c3b7899-bd75-4e26-aaf6-983b54c54be9" result.html:384
> > > > > "Updating host fd0ea29e-2022-4a0f-8a5a-30c9b4497515" result.html:384
> > > > > "Updating host 7c44018d-4517-4cda-8b21-cda31fc534d2" result.html:384
> > > > > "Updating host 18152471-55d8-4cc0-8846-2071f29290df" result.html:384
> > > > > "Error: $scope.result.hosts is undefined
> > > > > $scope.recomputeResources at https://ovm/ovirt-engine/webadmin/plugin/oVirtOptimizer/result.html#00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1:354:13
> > > > > $scope.refreshHostInfo/<@https://ovm/ovirt-engine/webadmin/plugin/oVirtOptimizer/result.html#00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1:387:17
> > > > > $http/promise.success/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:7946:11
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:31
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:31
> > > > > qFactory/ref/<.then/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11405:26
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$eval at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12412:16
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$digest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12224:15
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$apply at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12516:13
> > > > > done at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8204:34
> > > > > completeRequest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8412:7
> > > > > createHttpBackend/</xhr.onreadystatechange at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8351:1
> > > > > " angular.js:9778
> > > > > 
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> > > > > "Error: $scope.result.hosts is undefined
> > > > > $scope.recomputeResources at https://ovm/ovirt-engine/webadmin/plugin/oVirtOptimizer/result.html#00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1:354:13
> > > > > $scope.refreshVmInfo/<@https://ovm/ovirt-engine/webadmin/plugin/oVirtOptimizer/result.html#00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1:402:17
> > > > > $http/promise.success/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:7946:11
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:31
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:31
> > > > > qFactory/ref/<.then/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11405:26
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$eval at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12412:16
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$digest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12224:15
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$apply at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12516:13
> > > > > done at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8204:34
> > > > > completeRequest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8412:7
> > > > > createHttpBackend/</xhr.onreadystatechange at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8351:1
> > > > > " angular.js:9778
> > > > > 
> > > > > Blocked loading mixed active content
> > > > > "http://optimizer:8080/ovirt-optimizer/result/00000001-0001-0001-0001-0000000000a1/score"[Learn
> > > > > More] angular.js:8321
> > > > > Exception { message: "", result: 2153644038, name: "", filename:
> > > > > "https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js",
> > > > > lineNumber: 8321, columnNumber: 0, inner: null, data: null, stack:
> > > > > "createHttpBackend/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8321:6
> > > > > sendReq at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:8180:0
> > > > > $http/serverRequest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:7921:15
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:30
> > > > > qFactory/defer/deferred.promise.then/wrappedCallback at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11319:30
> > > > > qFactory/ref/<.then/<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:11405:25
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$eval at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12412:15
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$digest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12224:14
> > > > > $RootScopeProvider/this.$get</Scope.prototype.$apply at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:12516:12
> > > > > timeout/timeoutId<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:14023:24
> > > > > completeOutstandingRequest at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:4300:6
> > > > > Browser/self.defer/timeoutId<@https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/angularjs/1.2.16/angular.js:4601:6
> > > > > " } angular.js:9778
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > By the way, the server.log file on the optimizer server is in debug
> > > > > mode
> > > > > and
> > > > > constantly writes the following lines:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > DEBUG [org.apache.http.impl.conn.PoolingClientConnectionManager]
> > > > > (Thread-76)
> > > > > Closing expired connections
> > > > > DEBUG [org.apache.http.impl.conn.PoolingClientConnectionManager]
> > > > > (Thread-76)
> > > > > Closing connections idle longer than 30 SECONDS
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > the file is getting very big (1GB per day) and I tried to change the
> > > > > log
> > > > > level but I couldn't. Can you please tell me how can I switch it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sokratis
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Please check the browser's debug console for error messages. Then
> > > > > >check
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >firewall and jboss configuration on the Optimizer server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The JBoss log on the optimizer machine will tell you whether it does
> > > > > >some
> > > > > >computations (you will see score lines).
> > > > > >Then try manually connecting (telnet) to optimizer:8080 from your
> > > > > >machine
> > > > > >(the same where the webadmin is running).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >We need more data to be able to give you more specific instructions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Martin Sivák
> > > > > >msivak at redhat.com
> > > > > >Red Hat Czech
> > > > > >RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
> > > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > What is your web browser? In my case , if i use the Chrome then the
> > > > > > status
> > > > > > would be "Waiting for data..." forever,
> > > > > > but when i use Firefox then everything is ok.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > by the way, please make sure that you optimizer can be connected
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > ovirt-engine firstly.
> > > > > > e.g. if you use jboss, you need to run the following command:
> > > > > > ./standalone.sh -b 0.0.0.0
> > > > > > if you have no -b option in your command line, then only localhost
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > access
> > > > > > the optimizer.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > like.ma at cs2c.com.cn
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: s k
> > > > > > Date: 2014-11-18 16:34
> > > > > > To: Doron Fediuck
> > > > > > CC: users at ovirt.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Optaplanner Problem
> > > > > > Network access is working both sides and i don't see any errors in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > logs.
> > > > > > You can see a screenshot of the tab in the below link:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://picpaste.com/Optimizer_1-9UdHfclq.png
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:14:16 -0500
> > > > > > > From: dfediuck at redhat.com
> > > > > > > To: sokratis123k at outlook.com
> > > > > > > CC: users at ovirt.org; msivak at redhat.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Optaplanner Problem
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "s k" <sokratis123k at outlook.com>
> > > > > > > > To: users at ovirt.org
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:52:42 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [ovirt-users] Optaplanner Problem
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I upgraded oVirt to version 3.5.0 today and I also installed
> > > > > > > > Optaplanner
> > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > separate VM. While the installation was successful the
> > > > > > > > Optimizer
> > > > > > > > tab in
> > > > > > > > oVirt Engine doesn't report the correct information. Although
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > VMs
> > > > > > > > that are shutdown and the hosts are not balanced in terms of
> > > > > > > > memory
> > > > > > > > usage
> > > > > > > > the Optimized tab reports the following:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > SOLUTION STATUS
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Status: Waiting for data...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Solution is being refreshed every 30 seconds.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Freeze solution
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > VMS THAT SHOULD BE STARTED
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > No VM starts are requested at this moment.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > MIGRATION / START STEPS
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > No migrations are needed at this moment. The state is stable.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > TARGET STATE
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > host vm memory [all in GB]
> > > > > > > > used available
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > No information is displayed in TARGET STATE.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > it seems that the optimizer is not getting information
> > > > > > > from the engine DB, or the UI plugin cannot connect the
> > > > > > > Optimizer.
> > > > > > > Do you see any meaningful information in the UI?
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > >
> > > 
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