[ovirt-users] Non-Operational state because management interfaces down

Sun Nov 23 04:25:58 EST 2014

Hi Luf,

Let me have a think about it and I'll get back to you on whether there's
a workaround or something needs to be enhanced in the engine logic.
Thanks for bringing this up!

Yours, Lior.

On 20/11/14 15:11, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
> 
> Lior Vernia píše v St 19. 11. 2014 v 17:22 +0200:
>> On 19/11/14 14:42, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
>> > Engine has both networks (ovirtmgmt as eth0 and data as eth1).
>> > Internally the cluster should communicate via ovirtmgmt (installed using
>> > internal name for ovirtmgmt IP and this network is strictly local to the
>> > ovirt cluster). I'm reaching web of engine via data IP (public network
>> > as web is listening on all interfaces).
>>
>> So when you take node1 down and node2's management interface goes down,
>> how come the engine is still able to communicate with node2? Is the
>> hostname also resolved to the data IP?
> 
> It's not exact description of the situation.
> 
> 1) both nodes up => everything is working properly
> 2) second node power off
> 3) first node still have interfaces up (ovirtmgmt -> ens1f0 just without
> link detected) => first node is switched into Non-Operational mode
> (there should be at least some switch if I require link detected)
> 4) ping is working correctly over ovirtmgmt (checked via tcpdump)
> between remaining node and hosted engine running on that node
> 
> I switch back to the problematic situation and ensure I'm not saying
> misleading information (ens1f0 is network interface for ovirtmgmt):
> ovirtmgmt: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 9000
> ens1f0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 9000
> # ethtool ens1f0
> Settings for ens1f0:
> Supported ports: [ TP ]
> Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> 1000baseT/Full
> Supported pause frame use: No
> Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
> Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> 1000baseT/Full
> Advertised pause frame use: No
> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> Speed: Unknown!
> Duplex: Unknown! (255)
> Port: Twisted Pair
> PHYAD: 1
> Transceiver: internal
> Auto-negotiation: on
> MDI-X: Unknown (auto)
> Supports Wake-on: pumbg
> Wake-on: g
> Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
> drv probe link
> Link detected: no
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Luf
> 
>> > I'm sorry for worse responses as I'm on a business trip for next few
> weeks.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Luf
>> >
>> > sent from phone
>> >
>> > Dne 19. 11. 2014 9:34 Lior Vernia <lvernia at redhat.com> napsal(a):
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than
>> > non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP
>> > address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface?
>> > bond1 which is used for data?
>> >
>> > Lior.
>> >
>> > On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin.
>> >> There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's
>> >> similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the
>> >> ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it
>> >> once we buy second host).
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Luf
>> >>
>> >> Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
>> >>> Hi Lior,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the
>> >>> management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting
>> >>> physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down,
>> >>> there is no link detected on the other node.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia at redhat.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Luf,
>> >>>
>> >>> Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2
>> >>> toplogy;
>> >>> how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state
>> >>> of of the
>> >>> other one's interfaces?...
>> >>>
>> >>> Yours, Lior.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
>> >>> interfaces.
>> >>> > 2 interfaces in bond1 for data
>> >>> > 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
>> >>> directly between
>> >>> > servers)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0
>> >>> > node1 node2
>> >>> > switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem
>> >>> and I don't
>> >>> > know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
>> >>> the machines
>> >>> > for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt
>> >>> engine this
>> >>> > message:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because
>> >>> interfaces
>> >>> > which are down are needed by required networks in the
>> >>> current cluster:
>> >>> > 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
>> >>> physical
>> >>> > architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and
>> >>> separated
>> >>> > data and mgmt networks:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't
>> >>> need it)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Luf
>> >>> >
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