[ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning

[Daniel Helgenberger]

On 16.09.2014 09:17, Livnat Peer wrote:
> On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>> Hello Livnat,
>> On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote:
>>> On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> +1 for the iso uploader,
>>>> +1 for hostusb in UI
>>>> +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?)
>>>>
>>>> With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my
>>>> list is:
>>>> - SR-IOV
>>>> - NPV
>>>> - VFIO
>>>>
>>>> These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to
>>>> have the same hardware configuration anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch?
>>>>
>>> Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via
>>> OpenVswitch (=OVS)?
>>> also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS.
>> I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain
>> ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing
>> other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing
>> (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree
>> ect. on my switches).
>>
>> I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those
>> features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not
>> wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run
>> 'plain' oVirt?
>> I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as
>> it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I
>> did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle
>> import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just'
>> to get OVS?).
>>
>> Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch
>> leaves room for expansion - later on.
>>
>> Thanks!
> Hi Daniel,
>
> We did a lot of work in VDSM to make it more pluggable. part of it was
> to extract the LB specific implementation to a configurator which
> enables adding support to OVS. Take a look at -
>
> http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/NetworkReloaded#Network_configurators
>
> We did not implement the OVS configurator, but it's an option we should
> look into.
>
> It would help if you can specify concrete work that you are doing with
> OVS, is it just a general, traditional work or are you using the flows
> in OVS, other?
>
>
> Livnat
Hello Livnat,

sorry for the delay.
great to hear. I just read through NetworksReloaded - I think I already
stumbled over this wiki page a while back.
There was also a wiki page - OVS integration in Ovirt, from a student
wanting to write his theses (couldn't find it any more).
Right now I do 'traditional' work with OVS; if you count things like
QinQ (I need this for some transparent firewalling). Recently we I got a
new backbone switch witch supports OpenFlow. I am in the middle of a
network redesign and would like implement this (but not doing so right
now). In the end my goal is to get nearer to the ideal single point of
administration. Ovirt satisfies most of my needs there and I will deploy
it in our new infra (I am still evaling proxmox vs ovirt vs esxi).

Do I need OpenFlow and / or OVS to get things working? Certainly not. As
I mentioned, I can also do the same with SR-IOV together with plain
switch management CLI. I just want to use some more 'advanced' things I
cannot do with linux bridge. Also, if done right things tend to grow -
in the near future there will be more need for some advanced features
(otherwise nobody would buy managed switches). Also, Proxmox and ESXi
have implemented 'real' managed switches (OVS, Cisco).

Having you look into the matter for 3.6 is all I hoped for!
Cheers,
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>  
>>>> On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>>>> With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for "what do you want to see in 
>>>>> oVirt 3.6"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>     Itamar
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