[ovirt-users] This VM is not managed by the engine

Mark Steele msteele at telvue.com
Sun Jul 12 13:13:44 UTC 2015


OK - I think I'm getting closer - now that I'm on the correct box.

here is the output of the vdsClient command - which is the device id - the
first line?

[root at hv-02 etc]# vdsClient -s 0 list

41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b
Status = Up
acpiEnable = true
emulatedMachine = rhel6.5.0
afterMigrationStatus =
pid = 27304
memGuaranteedSize = 2048
transparentHugePages = true
displaySecurePort = 5902
spiceSslCipherSuite = DEFAULT
cpuType = SandyBridge
smp = 2
numaTune = {'nodeset': '0,1', 'mode': 'interleave'}
custom =
{'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72':
'VmDevice {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
deviceId=ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72, device=unix, type=CHANNEL,
bootOrder=0, specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
type=virtio-serial, port=2}, managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,
deviceAlias=channel1, customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}',
'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e':
'VmDevice {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
deviceId=ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e, device=unix, type=CHANNEL,
bootOrder=0, specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
type=virtio-serial, port=1}, managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,
deviceAlias=channel0, customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}',
'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6': 'VmDevice
{vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
deviceId=86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6, device=ide, type=CONTROLLER,
bootOrder=0, specParams={}, address={slot=0x01, bus=0x00, domain=0x0000,
type=pci, function=0x1}, managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,
deviceAlias=ide0, customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}',
'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0edevice_6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b':
'VmDevice {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
deviceId=6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b, device=spicevmc,
type=CHANNEL, bootOrder=0, specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
type=virtio-serial, port=3}, managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,
deviceAlias=channel2, customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}'}
vmType = kvm
memSize = 2048
smpCoresPerSocket = 1
vmName = connect-turbo-stage-03
nice = 0
bootMenuEnable = false
copyPasteEnable = true
displayIp = 10.1.90.161
displayPort = -1
smartcardEnable = false
clientIp =
fileTransferEnable = true
nicModel = rtl8139,pv
keyboardLayout = en-us
kvmEnable = true
pitReinjection = false
displayNetwork = ovirtmgmt
devices = [{'target': 2097152, 'specParams': {'model': 'none'}, 'alias':
'balloon0', 'deviceType': 'balloon', 'device': 'memballoon', 'type':
'balloon'}, {'device': 'unix', 'alias': 'channel0', 'address': {'bus': '0',
'controller': '0', 'type': 'virtio-serial', 'port': '1'}, 'deviceType':
'channel', 'type': 'channel'}, {'device': 'unix', 'alias': 'channel1',
'address': {'bus': '0', 'controller': '0', 'type': 'virtio-serial', 'port':
'2'}, 'deviceType': 'channel', 'type': 'channel'}, {'device': 'spicevmc',
'alias': 'channel2', 'address': {'bus': '0', 'controller': '0', 'type':
'virtio-serial', 'port': '3'}, 'deviceType': 'channel', 'type': 'channel'},
{'index': '0', 'alias': 'scsi0', 'specParams': {}, 'deviceType':
'controller', 'deviceId': '88db8cb9-0960-4797-bd41-1694bf14b8a9',
'address': {'slot': '0x04', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type':
'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device': 'scsi', 'model': 'virtio-scsi',
'type': 'controller'}, {'alias': 'virtio-serial0', 'specParams': {},
'deviceType': 'controller', 'deviceId':
'4bb9c112-e027-4e7d-8b1c-32f99c7040ee', 'address': {'slot': '0x05', 'bus':
'0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device':
'virtio-serial', 'type': 'controller'}, {'device': 'usb', 'alias': 'usb0',
'address': {'slot': '0x01', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type':
'pci', 'function': '0x2'}, 'deviceType': 'controller', 'type':
'controller'}, {'device': 'ide', 'alias': 'ide0', 'address': {'slot':
'0x01', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci', 'function':
'0x1'}, 'deviceType': 'controller', 'type': 'controller'}, {'alias':
'video0', 'specParams': {'vram': '32768', 'ram': '65536', 'heads': '1'},
'deviceType': 'video', 'deviceId': '23634541-3b7e-460d-9580-39504392ba36',
'address': {'slot': '0x02', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type':
'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device': 'qxl', 'type': 'video'}, {'device':
'spice', 'specParams': {'displayNetwork': 'ovirtmgmt',
'spiceSecureChannels':
'smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard',
'keyMap': 'en-us', 'displayIp': '10.1.90.161', 'copyPasteEnable': 'true'},
'deviceType': 'graphics', 'tlsPort': '5902', 'type': 'graphics'},
{'nicModel': 'pv', 'macAddr': '00:01:a4:a2:b4:30', 'linkActive': True,
'network': 'ovirtmgmt', 'alias': 'net0', 'filter': 'vdsm-no-mac-spoofing',
'specParams': {'inbound': {}, 'outbound': {}}, 'deviceType': 'interface',
'deviceId': '63651662-2ddf-4611-b988-1a58d05982f6', 'address': {'slot':
'0x03', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci', 'function':
'0x0'}, 'device': 'bridge', 'type': 'interface', 'name': 'vnet5'},
{'nicModel': 'pv', 'macAddr': '00:01:a4:a2:b4:31', 'linkActive': True,
'network': 'storage', 'alias': 'net1', 'filter': 'vdsm-no-mac-spoofing',
'specParams': {'inbound': {}, 'outbound': {}}, 'deviceType': 'interface',
'deviceId': 'b112d9c6-5144-4b67-912b-dcc27aabdae9', 'address': {'slot':
'0x07', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci', 'function':
'0x0'}, 'device': 'bridge', 'type': 'interface', 'name': 'vnet6'},
{'index': '3', 'iface': 'ide', 'name': 'hdd', 'alias': 'ide0-1-1',
'specParams': {'vmPayload': {'volId': 'config-2', 'file':
{'openstack/latest/meta_data.json':
'ewogICJsYXVuY2hfaW5kZXgiIDogIjAiLAogICJhdmFpbGFiaWxpdHlfem9uZSIgOiAibm92YSIs\nCiAgIm5hbWUiIDogImNvbm5lY3QtdHVyYm8tc3RhZ2UtMDMiLAogICJob3N0bmFtZSIgOiAiY29u\nbmVjdC10dXJiby1zdGFnZS0wMyIsCiAgInV1aWQiIDogImJiNmIwMzdhLTZkY2ItNGZmZS04MjUw\nLTMwYjlkOWE0ZTlmZCIsCiAgIm1ldGEiIDogewogICAgImVzc2VudGlhbCIgOiAiZmFsc2UiLAog\nICAgInJvbGUiIDogInNlcnZlciIsCiAgICAiZHNtb2RlIiA6ICJsb2NhbCIKICB9Cn0=\n',
'openstack/latest/user_data':
'I2Nsb3VkLWNvbmZpZwpzc2hfcHdhdXRoOiB0cnVlCmRpc2FibGVfcm9vdDogMApvdXRwdXQ6CiAg\nYWxsOiAnPj4gL3Zhci9sb2cvY2xvdWQtaW5pdC1vdXRwdXQubG9nJwpjaHBhc3N3ZDoKICBleHBp\ncmU6IGZhbHNlCnJ1bmNtZDoKLSAnc2VkIC1pICcnL15kYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6IC9kJycgL2V0\nYy9jbG91ZC9jbG91ZC5jZmc7IGVjaG8gJydkYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6CiAgWyJOb0Nsb3VkIiwg\nIkNvbmZpZ0RyaXZlIl0nJyA+PiAvZXRjL2Nsb3VkL2Nsb3VkLmNmZycK\n'}}},
'readonly': 'True', 'deviceType': 'disk', 'deviceId':
'6de890b2-6454-4377-9a71-bea2e46d50a8', 'address': {'bus': '1',
'controller': '0', 'type': 'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '1'}, 'device':
'cdrom', 'shared': 'false', 'path': '', 'type': 'disk'}, {'index': '2',
'iface': 'ide', 'name': 'hdd', 'alias': 'ide0-1-1', 'specParams': {'path':
''}, 'readonly': 'True', 'deviceType': 'disk', 'deviceId':
'2763a41b-6576-4135-b349-4fe402c31246', 'address': {'bus': '1',
'controller': '0', 'type': 'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '1'}, 'device':
'cdrom', 'shared': 'false', 'path': '', 'type': 'disk'}, {'device': 'file',
'alias': 'ide0-1-0', 'address': {'bus': '1', 'controller': '0', 'type':
'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '0'}, 'deviceType': 'disk', 'type': 'disk'}]
timeOffset = -891891
maxVCpus = 16
spiceSecureChannels =
smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard
display = qxl
[root at hv-02 etc]#


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On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Mark Steele <msteele at telvue.com> wrote:

> I think I may have not given you all the information.
>
> I am not logging into the host - I am logging into the ovirt management.
>
> Let me try logging into the host and checking
>
>
>
> ***
> *Mark Steele*
> CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
> 800.885.8886 x128 | msteele at telvue.com | http://www.telvue.com
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>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>  On 07/12/2015 03:52 PM, Mark Steele wrote:
>>
>>  That command returns nothing - I don't think qemu is running?
>>
>>  Not sure how to start it on CentOS
>>
>>  [root at ovirt-01 ~]# ps -ef | grep qemu
>>
>> root     23279 23130  0 08:51 pts/0    00:00:00 grep qemu
>>
>>
>>   that mean you don't have vm running on that host. so you can restart
>> vdsm
>>
>>
>>
>>  ***
>> *Mark Steele*
>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>> 800.885.8886 x128 | msteele at telvue.com |  <http://www.telvue.com/>
>> http://www.telvue.com
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>>
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 07/12/2015 03:42 PM, Mark Steele wrote:
>>>
>>>  I run into the same issue - I am unable to completely go into
>>> maintenance mode because this VM is still on it - it cannot be migrated
>>> because it is not managed.
>>>
>>>  find you qemu process:
>>>   pgrep -an qemu-kvm | grep external
>>>
>>> and kill the process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>>  ***
>>> *Mark Steele*
>>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>> 800.885.8886 x128 |  <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com |
>>> <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
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>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roy Golan < <rgolan at redhat.com>
>>> rgolan at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On 07/12/2015 03:12 PM, Mark Steele wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I think I may have found the problem:
>>>>
>>>>  [root at ovirt-01 pki]# ls -lah
>>>> total 48K
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.  10 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 .
>>>> drwxr-xr-x. 118 root  root   12K Jul 12 03:35 ..
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   6 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 CA
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   4 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 ca-trust
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   2 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 java
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   2 root  root  4.0K Jul 12 07:03 nssdb
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   6 ovirt ovirt 4.0K Nov 19  2014 ovirt-engine
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   2 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 rpm-gpg
>>>> drwx------.   2 root  root  4.0K Nov 22  2013 rsyslog
>>>> drwxr-xr-x.   5 root  root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 tls
>>>> [root at ovirt-01 pki]#
>>>>
>>>>  There is no vsdm directory under /etc/pki
>>>>
>>>>  This is an ovirt node. Version of software is 3.5.0.1-1.el6 from the
>>>> ovirt management console.
>>>>
>>>>  I'd like to add that I am not the person who originally installed
>>>> this instance - and am not entirely familiar with how it is setup and
>>>> installed - so I may ask ignorant questions from time to time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  not urgent but at this point it looks like it would be good to
>>>> reinstall this host from the webadmin. if you have the capacity,
>>>> you can put the host to maintenance, that will migrate vms to other
>>>> hosts, and then choose "reinstall" once its in "maintenance'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ***
>>>> *Mark Steele*
>>>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>>> 800.885.8886 x128 |  <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com |
>>>> <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
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>>>> https://www.facebook.com/telvue
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Roy Golan < <rgolan at redhat.com>
>>>> rgolan at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  On 07/12/2015 02:07 PM, Mark Steele wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thank you Roy,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I installed the client but am getting a permissions error when I run
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>  [root at ovirt-01 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 list
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>   File "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py", line 2678, in <module>
>>>>>     serv.do_connect(hostPort)
>>>>>   File "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py", line 136, in do_connect
>>>>>     self.s = vdscli.connect(hostPort, self.useSSL, self.truststore)
>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/vdscli.py", line 110, in
>>>>> connect
>>>>>     raise Exception("No permission to read file: %s" % f)
>>>>> Exception: No permission to read file: /etc/pki/vdsm/keys/vdsmkey.pem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  This should work. something isn't right with your setup
>>>>> is your host an ovirt-node? could be that you hit [1] . let me know
>>>>> what version are you running.
>>>>>
>>>>> please try the same with user vdsm. it should have permissions to
>>>>> /etc/pki/vdsm
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]  <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/>
>>>>> https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   If I restart vdsm, will that cause any issues with running VM's on
>>>>> this ovirt installation? This is our production environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Generatlly the answer is no but lets avoid it if  we can for this is
>>>>> a minor cosmetic issue I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> just as FYI - vdsm only reconnects to the socket exposed by libvirt to
>>>>> control the vm lifecycle. VDSM doesn't manadate the lifecycle of a VM
>>>>> unless the engine tells is so. Storage wise there could be some operations
>>>>> but i'm almost sure they must not have effect on running VMs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ***
>>>>> *Mark Steele*
>>>>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>>>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>>>> 800.885.8886 x128 |  <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com |
>>>>> <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/telvue | facebook:
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/telvue>https://www.facebook.com/telvue
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Roy Golan < <rgolan at redhat.com>
>>>>> rgolan at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 07/09/2015 06:34 PM, Mark Steele wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Yes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It is displayed in the engine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  the vdsm on that host reports it back to the engine . since this vm
>>>>>> isn't in the engine DB it is concidered as EXTERNAL (thus the error 400
>>>>>> from the API)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do yo know if the qemu-kvm proccess isn't running anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if the process isn't running then vdsm must clean its cache
>>>>>>
>>>>>> try to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yum install vdsm-cli
>>>>>> vdsClient -s 0 list
>>>>>> vdsClient -s 0 destroy {vmId}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alternativly a vdsm restart will work (if the qemu proccess isn't
>>>>>> running)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The VM is not really running - the IP addresses that are being
>>>>>> reported are from another VM that was recently removed. All attempts to
>>>>>> control the VM have failed. It does not have any NICS or disk associated
>>>>>> with it - so this seems to be a ghost in the machine. I attempted to unlock
>>>>>> it using the unlock_entity.sh script - it reports successful, however I
>>>>>> still cannot do anything with the VM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ***
>>>>>> *Mark Steele*
>>>>>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>>>>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>>>>> 800.885.8886 x128 |  <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com |
>>>>>> <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/telvue | facebook:
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/telvue>https://www.facebook.com/telvue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Artyom Lukianov <
>>>>>> <alukiano at redhat.com>alukiano at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you sea via engine, on what host run VM?
>>>>>>> Anyway if you have really run VM on host you can try to figure it
>>>>>>> with 'ps aux | grep qemu', if it will return you some process, you can just
>>>>>>> kill process via 'kill pid'.
>>>>>>> I hope it will help you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark Steele" < <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Artyom Lukianov" < <alukiano at redhat.com>alukiano at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: <users at ovirt.org>users at ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:42:20 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] This VM is not managed by the engine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Artyom,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you - I don't have vdsClient installed - can you point me to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> download?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>> *Mark Steele*
>>>>>>>  CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>>>>>> TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>>>>>> 800.885.8886 x128 <800.885.8886%20x128> | <msteele at telvue.com>
>>>>>>> msteele at telvue.com | <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
>>>>>>> twitter: <http://twitter.com/telvue>http://twitter.com/telvue |
>>>>>>> facebook:
>>>>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/telvue>https://www.facebook.com/telvue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Artyom Lukianov <
>>>>>>> <alukiano at redhat.com>alukiano at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Please check host where VM run(vdsClient -s 0 list table), and you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> > destroy it via vdsClient(vdsClient -s 0 destroy vm_id).
>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: "Mark Steele" < <msteele at telvue.com>msteele at telvue.com>
>>>>>>> > To: <users at ovirt.org>users at ovirt.org
>>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:38:32 PM
>>>>>>> > Subject: [ovirt-users] This VM is not managed by the engine
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I have a VM that was not started and is now showing as running.
>>>>>>> When I
>>>>>>> > attempt to suspend or stop it in the ovirt-shell, I get the
>>>>>>> message:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > status: 400
>>>>>>> > reason: bad request
>>>>>>> > detail: Cannot hibernate VM. This VM is not managed by the engine.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Not sure how the VM was initially created on the ovirt manager.
>>>>>>> This VM is
>>>>>>> > not needed - how can I 'shutdown' and remove this VM?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ***
>>>>>>> > Mark Steele
>>>>>>> > CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation
>>>>>>> > TelVue - We Share Your Vision
>>>>>>> > 800.885.8886 x128 <800.885.8886%20x128> | <msteele at telvue.com>
>>>>>>> msteele at telvue.com | <http://www.telvue.com>http://www.telvue.com
>>>>>>> > twitter: <http://twitter.com/telvue>http://twitter.com/telvue |
>>>>>>> facebook:
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