[ovirt-users] heavy webadmin

Tue Apr 5 08:30:04 EDT 2016

On Monday, April 04, 2016 10:00:45 PM Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 14:51 -0400, Alexander Wels wrote:
> > On Monday, April 04, 2016 02:34:33 PM you wrote:
> > > It is a hosted engine setup with the host on a physical  server.  I
> > > wasn't
> > > aware  that the engine used the entropy.  What do
> > > you  recommend  to fix
> > > it?
> > 
> > Okay, if it is a 3.6 then you should be able edit the hosted engine
> > VM in the 
> > UI itself. I haven't done any self hosted engine myself but there are
> > some 
> > things you can't edit, not sure if the rng is one of them. Anyway if
> > you can 
> > edit the hosted engine VM then open up the advanced options (bottom
> > left 
> > button in popup), then click the random generator side tab, and check
> > the 
> > random generator enabled button (if it is not checked already that
> > is).
> > 
> > As far as I know that should be enought to have the random passed
> > from the 
> > host to the VM and that should improve the entropy on the host
> > engine. You 
> > might have to restarted the hosted engine VM for it to take effect.
> > 
> > If the above is not possible or doesn't work, I would go with yum
> > install 
> > haveged, then chkconfig haveged on, service haveged start or if it is
> > centos 7 
> > then its systemctl haveged enable and systemctl haveged start.
> > 
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original
> > > message
> > > --------From: Alexander Wels <awels at redhat.com> Date:
> > > 04/04/2016  13:57 
> > > (GMT-05:00) To: biholcomb at l1049h.com Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]
> > > heavy
> > > webadmin
> > > 
> > > On Monday, April 04, 2016 12:55:55 PM you wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 08:41 -0400, Alexander Wels wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, April 03, 2016 03:30:29 PM Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 21:20 +0200, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote:
> > > > > > > Le 03/04/2016 17:13, Greg Sheremeta a écrit :
> > > > > > > > We have patches in review that should fix this in 3.6.5.
> > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > underlying
> > > > > > > > problem is a couple of JavaScript memory leaks.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > God bless you!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Since 3.6.2 or 3.6.3, the web admin is getting close to
> > > > > > > unusable
> > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > some minutes (Firefox or Chrome, windows or Linux).
> > > > > > > Alex Wels helped me try to debug this, but though much time
> > > > > > > spent
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > this, we failed.
> > > > > > > In a way, I'm satisfied other people are also expressing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > frustration about this issue, if that can help to debug.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you also.  I'm on 3.6.4 just released version and it
> > > > > > can take
> > > > > > 5+
> > > > > > minutes to go from the welcome page to the admin login page
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > the interface is slow and frequently throws exceptions. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Two things to check if going from the welcome page to the login
> > > > > page
> > > > > is THAT
> > > > > show.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Make 100% sure your DNS is setup correctly (or your
> > > > > /etc/hosts if
> > > > > that is
> > > > > what you use). If the engine cannot resolve itself, it will
> > > > > create
> > > > > lots of
> > > > > issues.
> > > > > 2. If you are running hosted engine, make sure you have enough
> > > > > entropy, the
> > > > > login page generates a couple of tokens using secure random,
> > > > > which
> > > > > eats away
> > > > > at your entropy budget heavily and since hosted engine is a VM
> > > > > it is
> > > > > possible
> > > > > that you don't have enough entropy. You can check your entropy
> > > > > level
> > > > > with
> > > > > this:
> > > > > 
> > > > > cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are several options for solving the entropy problem if
> > > > > that is
> > > > > the case.
> > > > 
> > > > DNS is 200% working  .  All hosts are resolvable from any
> > > > where on
> > > > the network and host can see engine and vice versa.
> > > > Entropy problems makes more sense.  I'd forgotten about this
> > > > being a VM
> > > > and I've run into the issue generating certs on VMware guests.  I
> > > > have
> > > > entropy_avail value of 159.  Is that good or bad and if bad what
> > > > do I
> > > > need to do.
> > > 
> > > 159 is horrible to be honest, that is most likely the cause of your
> > > problems. Anything below around 300 is bad.
> > > 
> > > I am assuming this is not a hosted engine since you said you forgot
> > > this is
> > > actually a virtual machine. So you are running some other kind of
> > > VM manager
> > > to host the engine. The best thing to do is check if there is a way
> > > for
> > > your manager to pass sources of random to the VM. In oVirt its a
> > > couple of
> > > check boxes in the cluster setup and the VM setup. Obviously I
> > > don't know
> > > what you are using so I can't comment on that.
> > > 
> > > Another thing you can do is install some kind of psuedo random
> > > generator
> > > like haveged or rngd. I know for a fact you can simply 'yum install
> > > haveged' and it will work (someone else had the same problem and
> > > solved it
> > > that way).
> > > 
> > > It all depends on your level of needed security and VM manager,
> > > there are
> > > also physical sources of random generation like usb sticks and
> > > stuff.
> 
> I installed haveged and the available is up around 2500+ now.  The
> server has a mouse and keyboard but it's not used much since
> connections are done via ssh.
> Thanks.

Your login into the webadmin should be significantly improved now. No more 5 
minute login times.