[ovirt-users] Manually starting VMs via vdsClient (HE offline)

[Yaniv Kaul]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Doug Ingham <dougti at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 9 February 2017 at 12:03, Dan Yasny <dyasny at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Doug Ingham <dougti at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> On 8 February 2017 at 18:26, Dan Yasny <dyasny at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> But seriously, above all, I'd recommend you backup the engine (it comes
>>>> with a utility) often and well. I do it via cron every hour in production,
>>>> keeping a rotation of hourly and daily backups, just in case. It doesn't
>>>> take much space or resources, but it's more than just best practice - that
>>>> database is the summary of the entire setup.
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>>> If you don't mind, may I ask what process you use for backing up your
>>> engine? If you use HE, do you keep one server dedicated to just that VM?
>>> I've not had that particular issue in the restore process yet, however I
>>> read that it's recommended the HE host is free of virtual load before the
>>> backup takes place. And as they need to be done frequently, I'm reading
>>> that as a dedicated host...
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>> If you use a dedicated host, you might as well abandon self hosted. HE is
>> nice for small setups with the HA built in for extra fun, but once you
>> scale, it might not be able to cope and you'll need real hardware. You're
>> running a heavy-ish java engine plus two databases after all.
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>> So as I said, all I do is add the engine-backup command to cron on the
>> engine, and then my backup server comes in and pulls out the files via scp,
>> also through cron. Nothing fancy really, but it lets me sleep at night
>>
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> This particular project has 10 new maxed out servers to back it, and I
> don't see it outgrowing that for at least a year or so. It's hardly a full
> DC.
> I presume the DB will become the heaviest part of the load, and I'm
> already planning a separate high I/O environment for dedicated HA DB hosts.
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> See the top section of this page:
> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/
> chap-Backing_up_and_Restoring_an_EL-Based_Self-Hosted_Environment
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> It seems that I'll always have to keep at least one host free to be able
> to avoid restore problems. If not, and I were to keep hourly backups, then
> migrating VMs off the host every hour would just be a pain.
>

I don't see the point in an hourly backup. Of what? The DB? The VM? What
storage will it be based on?
I suggest revising the strategy.


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