[ovirt-users] OSSEC reporting hidden processes

Charles Kozler ckozleriii at gmail.com
Wed Mar 22 13:43:08 UTC 2017


Thanks for the feedback!

>From my research though it seems like it would take some effort to start a
process and not register it in /proc or at least, it would be by intention
to do so for that desired affect. I guess my ask here would be why would
ovirt do that? Is there a relative performance gain? What processes inside
ovirt would do such a thing?

Appreciate the help

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Yedidyah Bar David <didi at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Charles Kozler <ckozleriii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Unfortunately by the time I am able to SSH to the server and start
> looking
> > around, that PID is no where to be found
>
> Even if you do this immediately when OSSEC finishes?
> Do you get from it only a single pid?
>
> >
> > So it seems something winds up in ovirt, runs, doesnt register in /proc
> (I
> > think even threads register themself in /proc),
>
> Now did some tests. Seems like they do, but are only "visible" if you
> access them directly, not if you e.g. 'ls -l /proc'.
>
> > and then dies off
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> No idea about your specific issue. Based on your above question, did this:
>
> # for pid in $(seq 32768); do if kill -0 $pid 2>/dev/null && ! ls -1
> /proc | grep -qw $pid; then ps -e -T | grep -w $pid | awk '{print
> $1}'; fi; done | sort -u | while read ppid; do echo number of threads:
> $(ps -e -T | grep -w $ppid | wc -l) ps $ppid: $(ps -h -p $ppid); done
> number of threads: 5 ps 1149: 1149 ? Ssl 0:23 /usr/bin/python -Es
> /usr/sbin/tuned -l -P
> number of threads: 3 ps 1151: 1151 ? Ssl 0:55 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n
> number of threads: 2 ps 1155: 1155 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/bin/ruby
> /usr/bin/fluentd -c /etc/fluentd/fluent.conf
> number of threads: 12 ps 1156: 1156 ? Ssl 4:49 /usr/sbin/collectd
> number of threads: 16 ps 1205: 1205 ? Ssl 0:08 /usr/sbin/libvirtd --listen
> number of threads: 6 ps 1426: 1426 ? Sl 23:57 /usr/bin/ruby
> /usr/bin/fluentd -c /etc/fluentd/fluent.conf
> number of threads: 32 ps 3171: 3171 ? S<sl 6:48 /usr/bin/python2
> /usr/share/vdsm/vdsmd
> number of threads: 6 ps 3173: 3173 ? Ssl 8:48 python /usr/sbin/momd -c
> /etc/vdsm/mom.conf
> number of threads: 7 ps 575: 575 ? SLl 0:14 /sbin/multipathd
> number of threads: 3 ps 667: 667 ? SLsl 0:09 /usr/sbin/dmeventd -f
> number of threads: 2 ps 706: 706 ? S<sl 0:00 /sbin/auditd -n
> number of threads: 6 ps 730: 730 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd
> --no-debug
> number of threads: 3 ps 735: 735 ? Ssl 0:31 /usr/bin/python
> /usr/bin/ovirt-imageio-daemon
> number of threads: 4 ps 741: 741 ? S<sl 0:00 /usr/bin/python2
> /usr/share/vdsm/supervdsmd --sockfile /var/run/vdsm/svdsm.sock
> number of threads: 2 ps 743: 743 ? Ssl 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
> --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation
> number of threads: 6 ps 759: 759 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/gssproxy -D
> number of threads: 5 ps 790: 790 ? SLsl 0:09 /usr/sbin/sanlock daemon
>
> (There are probably more efficient ways to do this, nvm).
>
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Yedidyah Bar David <didi at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Charles Kozler <ckozleriii at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi -
> >> >
> >> > I am wondering why OSSEC would be reporting hidden processes on my
> ovirt
> >> > nodes? I run OSSEC across the infrastructure and multiple ovirt
> clusters
> >> > have assorted nodes that will report a process is running but does not
> >> > have
> >> > an entry in /proc and thus "possible rootkit" alert is fired
> >> >
> >> > I am well aware that I do not have rootkits on these systems but am
> >> > wondering what exactly inside ovirt is causing this to trigger? Or any
> >> > ideas? Below is sample alert. All my google-fu turns up is that a
> >> > process
> >> > would have to **try** to hide itself from /proc, so curious what this
> is
> >> > inside ovirt. Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > -------------
> >> >
> >> > OSSEC HIDS Notification.
> >> > 2017 Mar 20 11:54:47
> >> >
> >> > Received From: (ovirtnode2.mydomain.com2) any->rootcheck
> >> > Rule: 510 fired (level 7) -> "Host-based anomaly detection event
> >> > (rootcheck)."
> >> > Portion of the log(s):
> >> >
> >> > Process '24574' hidden from /proc. Possible kernel level rootkit.
> >>
> >> What do you get from:
> >>
> >> ps -eLf | grep -w 24574
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> --
> >> Didi
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Didi
>
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