[ovirt-users] Force-Shutdown a VM?

[Derek Atkins]

Dan,

On Thu, May 4, 2017 12:07 pm, Dan Yasny wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll bite.  Which button is that?
>>
>> I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung
>> VM
>> from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
>> "New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove", "Clone VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
>> "<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>", "<Reboot>", "<Console>", "Migrate", "Cancel
>> Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to "Make
>> Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change CD", "Assign Tags", and
>> "Guide Me".
>>
>> Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
>>
>>
> While I do not appreciate your tone of conversation, I'll oblige, assuming
> you haven't had your morning coffee yet. Right click the VM, the option is
> right there. See the screenshot attached

Aha, so there is a hidden context menu with additional options..  THAT was
the key.  Thank you.  I was unaware of a right-click context menu for VMs
(or indeed anywhere in the webui).  Is this documented somewhere?

As for my tone, don't you think I had looked for a "power off" button? 
Your first reply was, while 100% correct, completely useless is helping. 
Of course I wanted power off; I couldn't find it.  THIS message, thank
you, provided what I needed.

> Just so you are aware, power off pulls the plug out of the VM, it kills it
> outright, so the effect will be just as if you've lost power to it. It is
> generally healthier to solve the shutdown problem.

I am very aware, thank you.  I've been running VMs since, oh, 1993.  My
last system was a vmware-based solution which I had in production for
about a decade.  (It had a "power off" button in plain sight, by the way).

I spent an hour trying various ways to gracefully shut the system down
before I emailed, but the VM was completely wedged, not responding to
keyboard or mouse events.  I tried soft reboot and soft shutdown to no
avail.  I tried sending Ctl-Alt-Del, to no avail...  Power Off is, of
course, a last resort, but I couldn't find the option (until you pointed
me to the right-click context menu, so again, thank you).  I'll note that
even a google for "ovirt power off guest" does not provide the hint about
the right-click context menu.

> Here's a hint, this isn't about Windows 10, but might hit close the mark
> nonetheless:
> https://serverfault.com/questions/844188/shut-down-windows-server-2012r2-kvm-vm/845521#845521

I can look into this, but I don't think it would help this situation; like
I said, the machine was completely wedged.  Also, the machine auto-logs-in
so there is always a "user", so again, probably not applicable to my
situation.

Thanks Again!!

-derek

>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
>> > Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
>> >
>> > On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
>> >>
>> >> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
>> >> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
>> >> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task.  If I
>> login
>> >> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
>> >> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
>> >> <vm-name> failed.":
>> >>
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO  [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
>> >> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
>> >> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
>> >> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated
>> by
>> >> admin at internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
>> >> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
>> >> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
>> >> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN  [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
>> >> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID:
>> -1,
>> >> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
>> >>
>> >> So, how can I get out of this situation?  How can I force-powerdown
>> this
>> >> VM so I can reboot it?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> -derek
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>        Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
>> >>        derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
>> >>        Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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>>
>> --
>>        Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
>>        derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
>>        Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>>
>>
>


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       Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
       derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
       Computer and Internet Security Consultant