[ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now available for testing
Oved Ourfali
oourfali at redhat.com
Fri Nov 3 13:47:54 UTC 2017
On Nov 3, 2017 13:48, "FERNANDO FREDIANI" <fernando.frediani at upx.com> wrote:
+1 for complete diskless hosts
-1 for mobile usability over desktop :-)
That was mentioned as one motivation, but as I've explained earlier it is
definitely not the main one.
Regards,
Oved
Regards
Fernando
On 02/11/2017 20:46, Arman Khalatyan wrote:
> I just tested the new 4.2, looks new shiny UI, thanks.
>
> I would like to join to Jiris statement, ovirt should become more
> stable, clean and useful.
> The right or left clicks or UI designs, mobile friendly or not,those
> futures are the secondary tasks for me.
> For those who would like to manage the vms from the mobile devices
> they can use mOvirt app.
> I wish that the development team will concentrate on the main
> advertised futures to make them stable.
> as a user I wish that the following points can make it stronger:
> - please make a ovirt as a FULL HA solution
> - one of the weak points of the ovirt is a spm, this should go away in
> the first point, not the right click one:).
> - hosts management like a foreman, but without foreman.
> - strong solution with a multirail HA storage
> - move hosts complete to disk-less infrastructure, easy to scale-up
> - scheduled backup solution integrated in the gui/api
> - reasonable reports,( similar like dwd in 3.6)
> Most of the points are almost done, but we have always hire or there
> half-solved problems.
>
>
> Greetings from Potsdam,
> Arman.
>
> PS
> an Ovirt user since 3.x
> 8hosts >50Vms
> 4hosts > 6VMS
> 10G,IB,RDMA.
> looking to deploy ovirt on a cluster environment on user demand.
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Jiří Sléžka <jiri.slezka at slu.cz> wrote:
>
>> On 10/31/2017 06:57 PM, Oved Ourfali wrote:
>>
>>> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You
>>> see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
>>> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline
>>> (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application).
>>>
>>> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand.
>>>
>> I'm using right click time to time, but for me is much more important
>> clean, simple and compatible UI. Especially if this means it will be
>> possible to simple select and copy any text or log messages from UI.
>> This is my biggest pain when interacting with manager.
>>
>> Cheers, Jiri
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>> Oved
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic at onholyground.com
>>> <mailto:budic at onholyground.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
>>> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but
>>> I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease
>>> of use on Desktop over Mobile!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -------------
>>>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani at upx.com
>>>> <mailto:fernando.frediani at upx.com>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release
>>>> is now available for testing
>>>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
>>>> *To:* users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
>>>>>> Because,
>>>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
>>>>>> interact with
>>>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
>>>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while
>>>>> its not 100%
>>>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
>>>>> Mobile devices
>>>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would
>>>>> make no
>>>>> sense.
>>>>>
>>>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
>>>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day
>>>> operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and
>>>> manage their large environments. If having both options where you
>>>> can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail
>>>> should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock Trading
>>>> interface or something you need that level or flexibility and
>>>> mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
>>>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
>>>> of a new trend or buzz stuff.
>>>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
>>>> be for quite a while.
>>>>
>>>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
>>>>> ours and you
>>>>> can do things like copy from the menu.
>>>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
>>>>> buttons/kebab menu
>>>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
>>>>> used actions as
>>>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
>>>>> the interface.
>>>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
>>>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu
>>>>> because its
>>>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
>>>>> was only
>>>>> available in the right click menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move
>>>>> or not. For
>>>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
>>>>> back, it is
>>>>> certainly possible we will put it back.
>>>>>
>>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
>>>>>>> and better
>>>>>>> than before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of
>>>>>>>>> the First
>>>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to
>>>>>>>>> be used
>>>>>>>>> in production.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to
>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
>>>>>>>>> or bugs
>>>>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
>>>>>>>>> thousand
>>>>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
>>>>>>>>> fixes, on
>>>>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> The Administration Portalhas been completely
>>>>>>>>> redesigned using
>>>>>>>>> Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application
>>>>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>>>> It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an
>>>>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>>>> user experience.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
>>>>>>>>> added to the
>>>>>>>>> New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
>>>>>>>>> vSwitch software
>>>>>>>>> defined networking (SDN).
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
>>>>>>>>> administration tasks.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check
>>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
>>>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
>>>>>>>>> architectures for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
>>>>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Additional Resources:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ovirt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oV
>>>>>>>>> irt <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oV
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>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=o
>>>>>>>>> Virt
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=o
>>>>>>>>> Virt>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
>>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>>>>>
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