<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Any updates about the issue? Because just now, the alarm went off again :-)<br></div>Kind regards,<br><br></div>Koen<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-13 16:55 GMT+01:00 Martin Sivak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com" target="_blank">msivak@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank you.<br>
<br>
I wonder why mem_total is smaller than balloon_cur (and max). I will have to dig a bit more to see what happened.<br>
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--<br>
Martin Sivák<br>
<a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a><br>
Red Hat Czech<br>
RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: "david van zeebroeck" < <a href="mailto:david@analytics.brusselsairport.be">david@analytics.brusselsairport.be</a> ><br>
> Date: Feb 13, 2014 4:31 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage<br>
> To: "Martin Sivak" < <a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a> ><br>
> Cc: "Doron Fediuck" < <a href="mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com">dfediuck@redhat.com</a> >, "Koen Vanoppen" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> >, < <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a> ><br>
><br>
> in attachement is the output of vdsclient<br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Martin Sivak < <a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a> > wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi everybody,<br>
><br>
> would it be possible to add the output of vdsClient getVmStats <affected vm<br>
> id> from the affected host here and to the bug?<br>
><br>
> Also can we please get the bug number that tracks this issue? I could not<br>
> find it in BZ.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Martin Sivák<br>
> <a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a><br>
> Red Hat Czech<br>
> RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > > From: "Koen Vanoppen" < <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> ><br>
> > > To: <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:18:24 PM<br>
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > We can't turn off the memory balloon option because we are running the<br>
> > > 3.3.2<br>
> > > with the bug of the memory balloon. Thx for the help!<br>
> ><br>
> > Which balloon bug?<br>
> ><br>
> > > On Feb 13, 2014 10:51 AM, "Doron Fediuck" < <a href="mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com">dfediuck@redhat.com</a> > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > > > From: "René Koch" < <a href="mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at">rkoch@linuxland.at</a> ><br>
> > > > To: "Doron Fediuck" < <a href="mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com">dfediuck@redhat.com</a> ><br>
> > > > Cc: "Koen Vanoppen" < <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> >, <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a> ,<br>
> > > > "Martin<br>
> > > > Sivak" < <a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a> ><br>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:16:27 AM<br>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 03:49 -0500, Doron Fediuck wrote:<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > > > > > From: "René Koch" < <a href="mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at">rkoch@linuxland.at</a> ><br>
> > > > > > To: "Doron Fediuck" < <a href="mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com">dfediuck@redhat.com</a> ><br>
> > > > > > Cc: "Koen Vanoppen" < <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> >, <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a> ,<br>
> > > > > > "Martin<br>
> > > > > > Sivak" < <a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com">msivak@redhat.com</a> ><br>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 7:31:47 PM<br>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:22 -0500, Doron Fediuck wrote:<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > > > > > > > From: "René Koch" < <a href="mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at">rkoch@linuxland.at</a> ><br>
> > > > > > > > To: "Koen Vanoppen" < <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> ><br>
> > > > > > > > Cc: <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:18:37 PM<br>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage<br>
> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:14 +0100, Koen Vanoppen wrote:<br>
> > > > > > > > > In The GUI, it says it's using 25% of the memory.<br>
> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > I guess it's the real value, right?<br>
> > > > > > > > The same happened for the memcached vm, someone reported to me<br>
> > > > > > > > -<br>
> > > > > > > > negative value in REST-API, but correct graph in oVirt webadmin<br>
> > > > > > > > GUI.<br>
> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > I fear I have no idea how this can happen - so maybe someone<br>
> > > > > > > > else<br>
> > > > > > > > can<br>
> > > > > > > > help you troubleshoot this issue.<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > 2014-02-12 15:10 GMT+01:00 Koen Vanoppen <<br>
> > > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:vanoppen.koen@gmail.com">vanoppen.koen@gmail.com</a> >:<br>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick respons, but there is no memcached<br>
> > > > > > > > > running on that VM.<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > Kind regards<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > 2014-02-12 15:06 GMT+01:00 René Koch < <a href="mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at">rkoch@linuxland.at</a> >:<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 14:55 +0100, Koen Vanoppen<br>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > > > > > > Dear all,<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > When we monitor one of our machines, we noticed<br>
> > > > > > > > > > that<br>
> > > > > > > > > there was one vm<br>
> > > > > > > > > > that was constantly giving a error of memory<br>
> > > > > > > > > > usage.<br>
> > > > > > > > > But when we took a<br>
> > > > > > > > > > look at it, there is actually nothing wrong with<br>
> > > > > > > > > > it.<br>
> > > > > > > > > Now we looked<br>
> > > > > > > > > > furhter then that. We looked at the API of the<br>
> > > > > > > > > machine and noticed<br>
> > > > > > > > > > something very strange:<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > <statistic<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > href="/api/vms/3b9aa245-75ff-42e8-b921-1c9ce61826bf/statistics/b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08"<br>
> > > > > > > > > id="b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08"><name>memory.used</name><description>Memory<br>
> > > > > > > > > used (agent)</description><values<br>
> > > > > > > > > type="INTEGER"><value><datum>-944892806</datum></value></values><type>GAUGE</type><unit>BYTES</unit><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > It's a negative...<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > Do you have memcached running in this vm?<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > I heard about this issue with memcached, but never<br>
> > > > > > > > > tested memcached in<br>
> > > > > > > > > my oVirt environment. You get the real usage value<br>
> > > > > > > > > with<br>
> > > > > > > > > memory.used = memory.installed + memory.used<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > Regards,<br>
> > > > > > > > > René<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > What could be the problem?<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > Kind regards,<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > > > koen<br>
> > > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > Guys,<br>
> > > > > > > these values are usually a result of overcommitment mechanism<br>
> > > > > > > usage.<br>
> > > > > > > For example, if KSM is effective, it will free a lot of memory<br>
> > > > > > > pages,<br>
> > > > > > > and total-free-committed becomes negative.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Thanks a lot for the information.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > This was reported in<br>
> > > > > > > <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977758" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977758</a><br>
> > > > > > > and the engine is using memFree reported by vdsm, which is more<br>
> > > > > > > accurate.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > The API reports the old version due to backwards compatibility.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > I just had a look at the bugzilla report and the RHEV documentation<br>
> > > > > > which says "Current memory in bytes used by the virtual machine.".<br>
> > > > > > So this means, the reported values are totally useless for<br>
> > > > > > monitoring<br>
> > > > > > memory usage of a virtual machine if KSM is active. I would expect<br>
> > > > > > to<br>
> > > > > > get the memory usage of a virtual machine and not how much memory<br>
> > > > > > is<br>
> > > > > > consumed on the hypervisor (this is pretty useless information for<br>
> > > > > > me).<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Is it planned to report the memory usage in a virtual machine in<br>
> > > > > > the<br>
> > > > > > API<br>
> > > > > > as well?<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Regards,<br>
> > > > > > René<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > René,<br>
> > > > > started digging into this, but it may take some time.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Note that there are 2 memory usage reports; one for the host,<br>
> > > > > and another for each VM.<br>
> > > > > My response is related to the host, while the original question was<br>
> > > > > for the VM. I still think the root cause is the same (ie- related to<br>
> > > > > overcommitment; for example the VM may have a balloon inflated), but<br>
> > > > > would like to properly check and fix if needed.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Yes, I know. So my question was if we can add another value for the<br>
> > > > usage in the vm in addition to the usage of the vm on the host.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > We'll know once we understand the cause- ie is it a bug needs fixing or<br>
> > > should we indeed add another value<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If you have a setup with this issue, try removing the balloon device<br>
> > > and see if it helps / changes.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > In order to make sure we keep track of it, please open a bug with all<br>
> > > > > the<br>
> > > > > relevant info.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I'll open a bug for this.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > Thanks<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > > Thanks and keep reporting!<br>
> > > > > Doron<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
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