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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2015 02:07 PM, Mark Steele
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          you Roy,</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
          installed the client but am getting a permissions error when I
          run it</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01 ~]# vdsClient -s 0
            list</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">Traceback (most recent call last):</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">  File
            "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py", line 2678, in &lt;module&gt;</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">    serv.do_connect(hostPort)</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">  File
            "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py", line 136, in do_connect</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">    self.s =
            vdscli.connect(hostPort, self.useSSL, self.truststore)</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">  File
            "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/vdscli.py", line 110,
            in connect</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">    raise Exception("No permission
            to read file: %s" % f)</div>
          <div class="gmail_default">Exception: No permission to read
            file: /etc/pki/vdsm/keys/vdsmkey.pem</div>
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    This should work. something isn't right with your setup<br>
    is your host an ovirt-node? could be that you hit [1] . let me know
    what version are you running. <br>
    <br>
    please try the same with user vdsm. it should have permissions to
    /etc/pki/vdsm<br>
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    [1]  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/</a><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default">If I restart vdsm, will that cause
            any issues with running VM's on this ovirt installation?
            This is our production environment.</div>
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    Generatlly the answer is no but lets avoid it if  we can for this is
    a minor cosmetic issue I guess. <br>
    <br>
    just as FYI - vdsm only reconnects to the socket exposed by libvirt
    to control the vm lifecycle. VDSM doesn't manadate the lifecycle of
    a VM unless the engine tells is so. Storage wise there could be some
    operations but i'm almost sure they must not have effect on running
    VMs. <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Roy
          Golan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div>On 07/09/2015 06:34 PM, Mark Steele wrote:<br>
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                      style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It

                      is displayed in the engine:</div>
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              </span> the vdsm on that host reports it back to the
              engine . since this vm isn't in the engine DB it is
              concidered as EXTERNAL (thus the error 400 from the API)<br>
              <br>
              do yo know if the qemu-kvm proccess isn't running anymore?
              <br>
              <br>
              if the process isn't running then vdsm must clean its
              cache<br>
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              try to:<br>
              <br>
              yum install vdsm-cli<br>
              vdsClient -s 0 list<br>
              vdsClient -s 0 destroy {vmId}<br>
              <br>
              alternativly a vdsm restart will work (if the qemu
              proccess isn't running)
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                        style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The

                        VM is not really running - the IP addresses that
                        are being reported are from another VM that was
                        recently removed. All attempts to control the VM
                        have failed. It does not have any NICS or disk
                        associated with it - so this seems to be a ghost
                        in the machine. I attempted to unlock it using
                        the unlock_entity.sh script - it reports
                        successful, however I still cannot do anything
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at
                        11:11 AM, Artyom Lukianov <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                        wrote:<br>
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                          0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                          engine, on what host run VM?<br>
                          Anyway if you have really run VM on host you
                          can try to figure it with 'ps aux | grep
                          qemu', if it will return you some process, you
                          can just kill process via 'kill pid'.<br>
                          I hope it will help you.<br>
                          <span><br>
                            ----- Original Message -----<br>
                            From: "Mark Steele" &lt;<a
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                          </span><span>To: "Artyom Lukianov" &lt;<a
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                            Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:42:20 PM<br>
                            Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] This VM is not
                            managed by the engine<br>
                            <br>
                            Artyom,<br>
                            <br>
                            Thank you - I don't have vdsClient installed
                            - can you point me to the<br>
                            download?<br>
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                              &gt; Please check host where VM
                              run(vdsClient -s 0 list table), and you
                              can<br>
                              &gt; destroy it via vdsClient(vdsClient -s
                              0 destroy vm_id).<br>
                              &gt; Thanks<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
                              &gt; From: "Mark Steele" &lt;<a
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                              &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                              &gt; Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:38:32
                              PM<br>
                              &gt; Subject: [ovirt-users] This VM is not
                              managed by the engine<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; I have a VM that was not started and
                              is now showing as running. When I<br>
                              &gt; attempt to suspend or stop it in the
                              ovirt-shell, I get the message:<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; status: 400<br>
                              &gt; reason: bad request<br>
                              &gt; detail: Cannot hibernate VM. This VM
                              is not managed by the engine.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Not sure how the VM was initially
                              created on the ovirt manager. This VM is<br>
                              &gt; not needed - how can I 'shutdown' and
                              remove this VM?<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Thanks<br>
                              &gt;<br>
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                                target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>
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Users mailing list
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a>
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