<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Thank you Roy!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">BTW - I went to the IRC channel - it was just me, a bot and one other person who did not respond.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I&#39;ll keep an eye on the chat in the future.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">***</font></div><div><b style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="2">Mark Steele</font></b><br></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation</span></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:x-small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">TelVue - We Share Your Vision</span></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:x-small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">800.885.8886 x128 | <a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a> | </span><a href="http://www.telvue.com/" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">http://www.telvue.com</a></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:x-small">twitter: </span><a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/telvue</a><span style="font-size:x-small"> | facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/telvue" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/telvue</a></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Roy Golan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>On 07/13/2015 01:36 AM, Mark Steele
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          - Success!</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
          was able to restart vdsmd</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&#39;service
          vdsmd restart&#39;</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">From
          there - I was able to issue the stop destroy command:</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&#39;<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">vdsClient
            -s 0 destroy 41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b&#39;</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Once
            that was done, I was able to REMOVE the VM from the GUI.</span></div>
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            you for all your help AND your patience with a noob!</span></div>
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    You&#39;re welcome. And btw,next time try also the #ovirt irc channel at
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Mark
          Steele <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;</span>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">No
                joy - the shutdown appears to start - but eventually the
                VM shows as running again. There is NO process running
                that shows up with ps command.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I&#39;m
                not sure what to do next</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:13
                    AM, Artyom Lukianov <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Also
                      provide to us vdsm log from
                      host(/var/log/vdsm/vdsm.log) for future
                      investigation.<br>
                      <span>Thanks<br>
                        <br>
                        ----- Original Message -----<br>
                        From: &quot;Mark Steele&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      </span><span>To: &quot;Roy Golan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        Cc: &quot;Artyom Lukianov&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;, <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
                        Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 4:21:34 PM<br>
                        Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] This VM is not
                        managed by the engine<br>
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                      </span><span>[root@hv-02 etc]# vdsClient -s 0
                        destroy<br>
                        41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b<br>
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                        Unexpected exception<br>
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                        Not sure I&#39;m getting any closer :-)<br>
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                        <div>On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Mark
                          Steele &lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
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                          &gt; OK - I think I&#39;m getting closer - now
                          that I&#39;m on the correct box.<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; here is the output of the vdsClient
                          command - which is the device id - the<br>
                          &gt; first line?<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; [root@hv-02 etc]# vdsClient -s 0 list<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; 41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b<br>
                          &gt; Status = Up<br>
                          &gt; acpiEnable = true<br>
                          &gt; emulatedMachine = rhel6.5.0<br>
                          &gt; afterMigrationStatus =<br>
                          &gt; pid = 27304<br>
                          &gt; memGuaranteedSize = 2048<br>
                          &gt; transparentHugePages = true<br>
                          &gt; displaySecurePort = 5902<br>
                          &gt; spiceSslCipherSuite = DEFAULT<br>
                          &gt; cpuType = SandyBridge<br>
                          &gt; smp = 2<br>
                          &gt; numaTune = {&#39;nodeset&#39;: &#39;0,1&#39;, &#39;mode&#39;:
                          &#39;interleave&#39;}<br>
                          &gt; custom =<br>
                          &gt;
{&#39;device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;VmDevice
                          {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,<br>
                          &gt;
                          deviceId=ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72,
                          device=unix, type=CHANNEL,<br>
                          &gt; bootOrder=0, specParams={},
                          address={bus=0, controller=0,<br>
                          &gt; type=virtio-serial, port=2},
                          managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,<br>
                          &gt; deviceAlias=channel1,
                          customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}&#39;,<br>
                          &gt;
&#39;device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;VmDevice
                          {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,<br>
                          &gt;
                          deviceId=ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e,
                          device=unix, type=CHANNEL,<br>
                          &gt; bootOrder=0, specParams={},
                          address={bus=0, controller=0,<br>
                          &gt; type=virtio-serial, port=1},
                          managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,<br>
                          &gt; deviceAlias=channel0,
                          customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}&#39;,<br>
                          &gt;
                          &#39;device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6&#39;:
                          &#39;VmDevice<br>
                          &gt;
                          {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,<br>
                          &gt;
                          deviceId=86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6,
                          device=ide, type=CONTROLLER,<br>
                          &gt; bootOrder=0, specParams={},
                          address={slot=0x01, bus=0x00, domain=0x0000,<br>
                          &gt; type=pci, function=0x1}, managed=false,
                          plugged=true, readOnly=false,<br>
                          &gt; deviceAlias=ide0, customProperties={},
                          snapshotId=null}&#39;,<br>
                          &gt;
&#39;device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0edevice_6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;VmDevice
                          {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,<br>
                          &gt;
                          deviceId=6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b,
                          device=spicevmc,<br>
                          &gt; type=CHANNEL, bootOrder=0, specParams={},
                          address={bus=0, controller=0,<br>
                          &gt; type=virtio-serial, port=3},
                          managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,<br>
                          &gt; deviceAlias=channel2,
                          customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}&#39;}<br>
                          &gt; vmType = kvm<br>
                          &gt; memSize = 2048<br>
                          &gt; smpCoresPerSocket = 1<br>
                          &gt; vmName = connect-turbo-stage-03<br>
                          &gt; nice = 0<br>
                          &gt; bootMenuEnable = false<br>
                          &gt; copyPasteEnable = true<br>
                          &gt; displayIp = 10.1.90.161<br>
                          &gt; displayPort = -1<br>
                          &gt; smartcardEnable = false<br>
                          &gt; clientIp =<br>
                          &gt; fileTransferEnable = true<br>
                          &gt; nicModel = rtl8139,pv<br>
                          &gt; keyboardLayout = en-us<br>
                          &gt; kvmEnable = true<br>
                          &gt; pitReinjection = false<br>
                          &gt; displayNetwork = ovirtmgmt<br>
                          &gt; devices = [{&#39;target&#39;: 2097152,
                          &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;model&#39;: &#39;none&#39;}, &#39;alias&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;balloon0&#39;, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;balloon&#39;,
                          &#39;device&#39;: &#39;memballoon&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;balloon&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;: &#39;unix&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;:
                          &#39;channel0&#39;, &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;: &#39;0&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;controller&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:
                          &#39;virtio-serial&#39;, &#39;port&#39;: &#39;1&#39;}, &#39;deviceType&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;channel&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;channel&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;:
                          &#39;unix&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;channel1&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;controller&#39;:
                          &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;virtio-serial&#39;, &#39;port&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;2&#39;}, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;channel&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:
                          &#39;channel&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;: &#39;spicevmc&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;channel2&#39;, &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;:
                          &#39;0&#39;, &#39;controller&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;virtio-serial&#39;, &#39;port&#39;: &#39;3&#39;},
                          &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;channel&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;channel&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; {&#39;index&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;scsi0&#39;,
                          &#39;specParams&#39;: {}, &#39;deviceType&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;controller&#39;, &#39;deviceId&#39;:
                          &#39;88db8cb9-0960-4797-bd41-1694bf14b8a9&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;: &#39;0x04&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;:
                          &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;: &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;: &#39;0x0&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;:
                          &#39;scsi&#39;, &#39;model&#39;: &#39;virtio-scsi&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;type&#39;: &#39;controller&#39;}, {&#39;alias&#39;:
                          &#39;virtio-serial0&#39;, &#39;specParams&#39;: {},<br>
                          &gt; &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;controller&#39;, &#39;deviceId&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;4bb9c112-e027-4e7d-8b1c-32f99c7040ee&#39;,
                          &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;: &#39;0x05&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;: &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:
                          &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;: &#39;0x0&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;virtio-serial&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;controller&#39;},
                          {&#39;device&#39;: &#39;usb&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;usb0&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;: &#39;0x01&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;:
                          &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;: &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;: &#39;0x2&#39;}, &#39;deviceType&#39;:
                          &#39;controller&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;controller&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;: &#39;ide&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;:
                          &#39;ide0&#39;, &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x01&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;: &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;:
                          &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x1&#39;}, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;controller&#39;,
                          &#39;type&#39;: &#39;controller&#39;}, {&#39;alias&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;video0&#39;, &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;vram&#39;: &#39;32768&#39;,
                          &#39;ram&#39;: &#39;65536&#39;, &#39;heads&#39;: &#39;1&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;video&#39;, &#39;deviceId&#39;:
                          &#39;23634541-3b7e-460d-9580-39504392ba36&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;: &#39;0x02&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;:
                          &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;: &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;: &#39;0x0&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;:
                          &#39;qxl&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;video&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;spice&#39;, &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;displayNetwork&#39;:
                          &#39;ovirtmgmt&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;spiceSecureChannels&#39;:<br>
                          &gt;
                          &#39;smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;keyMap&#39;: &#39;en-us&#39;, &#39;displayIp&#39;:
                          &#39;10.1.90.161&#39;, &#39;copyPasteEnable&#39;: &#39;true&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;graphics&#39;, &#39;tlsPort&#39;:
                          &#39;5902&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;graphics&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; {&#39;nicModel&#39;: &#39;pv&#39;, &#39;macAddr&#39;:
                          &#39;00:01:a4:a2:b4:30&#39;, &#39;linkActive&#39;: True,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;network&#39;: &#39;ovirtmgmt&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;net0&#39;,
                          &#39;filter&#39;: &#39;vdsm-no-mac-spoofing&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;inbound&#39;: {}, &#39;outbound&#39;:
                          {}}, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;interface&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;deviceId&#39;:
                          &#39;63651662-2ddf-4611-b988-1a58d05982f6&#39;,
                          &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x03&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;: &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;:
                          &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x0&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;: &#39;bridge&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:
                          &#39;interface&#39;, &#39;name&#39;: &#39;vnet5&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; {&#39;nicModel&#39;: &#39;pv&#39;, &#39;macAddr&#39;:
                          &#39;00:01:a4:a2:b4:31&#39;, &#39;linkActive&#39;: True,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;network&#39;: &#39;storage&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;net1&#39;,
                          &#39;filter&#39;: &#39;vdsm-no-mac-spoofing&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;inbound&#39;: {}, &#39;outbound&#39;:
                          {}}, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;interface&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;deviceId&#39;:
                          &#39;b112d9c6-5144-4b67-912b-dcc27aabdae9&#39;,
                          &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;slot&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x07&#39;, &#39;bus&#39;: &#39;0x00&#39;, &#39;domain&#39;:
                          &#39;0x0000&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;pci&#39;, &#39;function&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;0x0&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;: &#39;bridge&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:
                          &#39;interface&#39;, &#39;name&#39;: &#39;vnet6&#39;},<br>
                          &gt; {&#39;index&#39;: &#39;3&#39;, &#39;iface&#39;: &#39;ide&#39;, &#39;name&#39;:
                          &#39;hdd&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;ide0-1-1&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;vmPayload&#39;: {&#39;volId&#39;:
                          &#39;config-2&#39;, &#39;file&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; {&#39;openstack/latest/meta_data.json&#39;:<br>
                          &gt;
&#39;ewogICJsYXVuY2hfaW5kZXgiIDogIjAiLAogICJhdmFpbGFiaWxpdHlfem9uZSIgOiAibm92YSIs\nCiAgIm5hbWUiIDogImNvbm5lY3QtdHVyYm8tc3RhZ2UtMDMiLAogICJob3N0bmFtZSIgOiAiY29u\nbmVjdC10dXJiby1zdGFnZS0wMyIsCiAgInV1aWQiIDogImJiNmIwMzdhLTZkY2ItNGZmZS04MjUw\nLTMwYjlkOWE0ZTlmZCIsCiAgIm1ldGEiIDogewogICAgImVzc2VudGlhbCIgOiAiZmFsc2UiLAog\nICAgInJvbGUiIDogInNlcnZlciIsCiAgICAiZHNtb2RlIiA6ICJsb2NhbCIKICB9Cn0=\n&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;openstack/latest/user_data&#39;:<br>
                          &gt;
&#39;I2Nsb3VkLWNvbmZpZwpzc2hfcHdhdXRoOiB0cnVlCmRpc2FibGVfcm9vdDogMApvdXRwdXQ6CiAg\nYWxsOiAnPj4gL3Zhci9sb2cvY2xvdWQtaW5pdC1vdXRwdXQubG9nJwpjaHBhc3N3ZDoKICBleHBp\ncmU6IGZhbHNlCnJ1bmNtZDoKLSAnc2VkIC1pICcnL15kYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6IC9kJycgL2V0\nYy9jbG91ZC9jbG91ZC5jZmc7IGVjaG8gJydkYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6CiAgWyJOb0Nsb3VkIiwg\nIkNvbmZpZ0RyaXZlIl0nJyA+PiAvZXRjL2Nsb3VkL2Nsb3VkLmNmZycK\n&#39;}}},<br>
                          &gt; &#39;readonly&#39;: &#39;True&#39;, &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;disk&#39;,
                          &#39;deviceId&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;6de890b2-6454-4377-9a71-bea2e46d50a8&#39;,
                          &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;: &#39;1&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;controller&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;drive&#39;,
                          &#39;target&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;unit&#39;: &#39;1&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;cdrom&#39;, &#39;shared&#39;: &#39;false&#39;, &#39;path&#39;: &#39;&#39;,
                          &#39;type&#39;: &#39;disk&#39;}, {&#39;index&#39;: &#39;2&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;iface&#39;: &#39;ide&#39;, &#39;name&#39;: &#39;hdd&#39;, &#39;alias&#39;:
                          &#39;ide0-1-1&#39;, &#39;specParams&#39;: {&#39;path&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;&#39;}, &#39;readonly&#39;: &#39;True&#39;, &#39;deviceType&#39;:
                          &#39;disk&#39;, &#39;deviceId&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;2763a41b-6576-4135-b349-4fe402c31246&#39;,
                          &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;: &#39;1&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;controller&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;drive&#39;,
                          &#39;target&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;unit&#39;: &#39;1&#39;}, &#39;device&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;cdrom&#39;, &#39;shared&#39;: &#39;false&#39;, &#39;path&#39;: &#39;&#39;,
                          &#39;type&#39;: &#39;disk&#39;}, {&#39;device&#39;: &#39;file&#39;,<br>
                          &gt; &#39;alias&#39;: &#39;ide0-1-0&#39;, &#39;address&#39;: {&#39;bus&#39;:
                          &#39;1&#39;, &#39;controller&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;type&#39;:<br>
                          &gt; &#39;drive&#39;, &#39;target&#39;: &#39;0&#39;, &#39;unit&#39;: &#39;0&#39;},
                          &#39;deviceType&#39;: &#39;disk&#39;, &#39;type&#39;: &#39;disk&#39;}]<br>
                          &gt; timeOffset = -891891<br>
                          &gt; maxVCpus = 16<br>
                          &gt; spiceSecureChannels =<br>
                          &gt;
                          smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard<br>
                          &gt; display = qxl<br>
                          &gt; [root@hv-02 etc]#<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; ***<br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <span>&gt; *Mark Steele*<br>
                        &gt; CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue
                        Corporation<br>
                        &gt; TelVue - We Share Your Vision<br>
                        &gt; <a href="tel:800.885.8886%20x128" value="+18008858886" target="_blank">800.885.8886
                          x128</a> | <a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a> | <a href="http://www.telvue.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.telvue.com" target="_blank">http://www.telvue.com</a><br>
                        &gt; twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/telvue</a>
                        | facebook:<br>
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                        &gt;<br>
                      </span><span>&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM,
                        Mark Steele &lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt; I think I may have not given you all
                        the information.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt; I am not logging into the host - I am
                        logging into the ovirt management.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt; Let me try logging into the host and
                        checking<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt; ***<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt; *Mark Steele*<br>
                        &gt;&gt; CIO / VP Technical Operations | TelVue
                        Corporation<br>
                        &gt;&gt; TelVue - We Share Your Vision<br>
                        &gt;&gt; <a href="tel:800.885.8886%20x128" value="+18008858886" target="_blank">800.885.8886
                          x128</a> | <a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a> | <a href="http://www.telvue.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.telvue.com" target="_blank">http://www.telvue.com</a><br>
                        &gt;&gt; twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/telvue</a>
                        | facebook:<br>
                        &gt;&gt; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/telvue</a><br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:03
                        AM, Roy Golan &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  On 07/12/2015 03:52 PM, Mark
                        Steele wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  That command returns nothing - I
                        don&#39;t think qemu is running?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  Not sure how to start it on CentOS<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  [root@ovirt-01 ~]# ps -ef | grep
                        qemu<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; root     23279 23130  0 08:51
                        pts/0    00:00:00 grep qemu<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;   that mean you don&#39;t have vm
                        running on that host. so you can restart<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; vdsm<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  ***<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt; *Mark Steele*<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;  CIO / VP Technical Operations |
                        TelVue Corporation<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; TelVue - We Share Your Vision<br>
                      </span>&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="tel:800.885.8886%20x128" value="+18008858886" target="_blank">800.885.8886
                        x128</a> | <a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>
                      |  &lt;<a href="http://www.telvue.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.telvue.com/</a>&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.telvue.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.telvue.com</a><br>
                      &gt;&gt;&gt; twitter:  &lt;<a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/telvue</a>&gt;<a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://twitter.com/telvue" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/telvue</a>
                      |<br>
                      &gt;&gt;&gt; facebook:  &lt;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/telvue" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/telvue" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/telvue</a>&gt;<br>
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                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:45 AM,
                        Roy Golan &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  On 07/12/2015 03:42 PM, Mark
                        Steele wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  I run into the same issue - I
                        am unable to completely go into<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; maintenance mode because this
                        VM is still on it - it cannot be migrated<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; because it is not managed.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  find you qemu process:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   pgrep -an qemu-kvm | grep
                        external<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and kill the process<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  [image: Inline image 1]<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  ***<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Mark Steele*<br>
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                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:25
                          AM, Roy Golan &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  On 07/12/2015 03:12 PM,
                          Mark Steele wrote:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  I think I may have found
                          the problem:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  [root@ovirt-01 pki]# ls
                          -lah<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; total 48K<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.  10 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 .<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x. 118 root 
                          root   12K Jul 12 03:35 ..<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   6 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 CA<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   4 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 ca-trust<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   2 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 java<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   2 root 
                          root  4.0K Jul 12 07:03 nssdb<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   6 ovirt
                          ovirt 4.0K Nov 19  2014 ovirt-engine<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   2 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 rpm-gpg<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwx------.   2 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 22  2013 rsyslog<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; drwxr-xr-x.   5 root 
                          root  4.0K Nov 14  2014 tls<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [root@ovirt-01 pki]#<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  There is no vsdm
                          directory under /etc/pki<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  This is an ovirt node.
                          Version of software is 3.5.0.1-1.el6 from the<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ovirt management console.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  I&#39;d like to add that I
                          am not the person who originally installed<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this instance - and am
                          not entirely familiar with how it is setup and<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installed - so I may ask
                          ignorant questions from time to time.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  not urgent but at this
                          point it looks like it would be good to<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reinstall this host from
                          the webadmin. if you have the capacity,<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you can put the host to
                          maintenance, that will migrate vms to other<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hosts, and then choose
                          &quot;reinstall&quot; once its in &quot;maintenance&#39;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  ***<br>
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                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at
                          8:02 AM, Roy Golan &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
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                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  On 07/12/2015 02:07
                          PM, Mark Steele wrote:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Thank you Roy,<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  I installed the
                          client but am getting a permissions error when
                          I<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; run it<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  [root@ovirt-01 ~]#
                          vdsClient -s 0 list<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Traceback (most
                          recent call last):<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   File
                          &quot;/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py&quot;, line 2678, in
                          &lt;module&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   
                           serv.do_connect(hostPort)<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   File
                          &quot;/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py&quot;, line 136, in
                          do_connect<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     self.s =
                          vdscli.connect(hostPort, self.useSSL,
                          self.truststore)<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   File
                          &quot;/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/vdscli.py&quot;,
                          line 110,<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in connect<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     raise
                          Exception(&quot;No permission to read file: %s&quot; %
                          f)<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Exception: No
                          permission to read file:
                          /etc/pki/vdsm/keys/vdsmkey.pem<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  This should work.
                          something isn&#39;t right with your setup<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is your host an
                          ovirt-node? could be that you hit [1] . let me
                          know<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; what version are you
                          running.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; please try the same
                          with user vdsm. it should have permissions to<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; /etc/pki/vdsm<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [1]  &lt;<a href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/" target="_blank">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/</a>&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/" target="_blank">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/</a><br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   If I restart vdsm,
                          will that cause any issues with running VM&#39;s
                          on<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this ovirt
                          installation? This is our production
                          environment.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Generatlly the
                          answer is no but lets avoid it if  we can for
                          this is<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a minor cosmetic
                          issue I guess.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just as FYI - vdsm
                          only reconnects to the socket exposed by
                          libvirt<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to control the vm
                          lifecycle. VDSM doesn&#39;t manadate the lifecycle
                          of a VM<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; unless the engine
                          tells is so. Storage wise there could be some
                          operations<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; but i&#39;m almost sure
                          they must not have effect on running VMs.<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Thank you<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  ***<br>
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                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at
                        4:09 AM, Roy Golan &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  On 07/09/2015
                        06:34 PM, Mark Steele wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Yes,<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  It is displayed in
                        the engine:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  [image: Inline
                        image 1]<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  the vdsm on that
                        host reports it back to the engine . since this
                        vm<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; isn&#39;t in the engine
                        DB it is concidered as EXTERNAL (thus the error
                        400<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; from the API)<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; do yo know if the
                        qemu-kvm proccess isn&#39;t running anymore?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; if the process
                        isn&#39;t running then vdsm must clean its cache<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; try to:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; yum install
                        vdsm-cli<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; vdsClient -s 0 list<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; vdsClient -s 0
                        destroy {vmId}<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; alternativly a vdsm
                        restart will work (if the qemu proccess isn&#39;t<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; running)<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  The VM is not
                        really running - the IP addresses that are being<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reported are from
                        another VM that was recently removed. All
                        attempts to<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; control the VM have
                        failed. It does not have any NICS or disk
                        associated<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with it - so this
                        seems to be a ghost in the machine. I attempted
                        to unlock<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it using the
                        unlock_entity.sh script - it reports successful,
                        however I<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; still cannot do
                        anything with the VM.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  ***<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Mark
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                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jul 9, 2015
                        at 11:11 AM, Artyom Lukianov &lt;<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Can you sea via
                        engine, on what host run VM?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyway if you
                        have really run VM on host you can try to figure
                        it<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with &#39;ps aux |
                        grep qemu&#39;, if it will return you some process,
                        you can just<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kill process
                        via &#39;kill pid&#39;.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I hope it will
                        help you.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ----- Original
                        Message -----<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
                        From: &quot;Mark Steele&quot; &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: &quot;Artyom
                        Lukianov&quot; &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cc: &lt;<a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday,
                        July 9, 2015 5:42:20 PM<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re:
                        [ovirt-users] This VM is not managed by the
                        engine<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Artyom,<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thank you - I
                        don&#39;t have vdsClient installed - can you point
                        me to<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; download?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ***<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Mark Steele*<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  CIO / VP
                        Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation<br>
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                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jul 9,
                        2015 at 10:11 AM, Artyom Lukianov &lt;<br>
                      </span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank">alukiano@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      <span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Please
                        check host where VM run(vdsClient -s 0 list
                        table), and<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you can<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; destroy it
                        via vdsClient(vdsClient -s 0 destroy vm_id).<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; -----
                        Original Message -----<br>
                      </span><span>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
                        From: &quot;Mark Steele&quot; &lt; &lt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank">msteele@telvue.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; To: &lt;<a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>&gt;<a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Sent:
                        Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:38:32 PM<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Subject:
                        [ovirt-users] This VM is not managed by the
                        engine<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I have a
                        VM that was not started and is now showing as
                        running.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When I<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; attempt to
                        suspend or stop it in the ovirt-shell, I get the<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; message:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; status:
                        400<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; reason:
                        bad request<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; detail:
                        Cannot hibernate VM. This VM is not managed by
                        the engine.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Not sure
                        how the VM was initially created on the ovirt
                        manager.<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This VM is<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; not needed
                        - how can I &#39;shutdown&#39; and remove this VM?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; ***<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Mark
                        Steele<br>
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                        Technical Operations | TelVue Corporation<br>
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