<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Feb 2017, at 14:34, Nelson Lameiras <<a href="mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" class="">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">Yaniv,<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">I've done some extensive investigation, and my conclusions so far bring some new light to this issue :<br class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">As you have hinted, this is not a problem related to windows 10, as I was able to reproduce it with any laptop/system with windows 7 or 10. In fact, I do not find any evidence that VNC console works OK with any windows (maybe is our hardware?? => we use DELL). I'm not sure anymore it did work in the past...<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">This is a problem related only with VNC consoles on virtual machines using windows client. SPICE works great under windows. VNC console works OK with remote viewer under centos.<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">I found out something interesting : as I said, console is so slow that it bearebly useable (1 refresh every 10 seconds) but if I alt+tab twice (change focus off and on) it will refresh immediatly. This seems to me as a client issue... not a oVirt issue. So maybe I should take this issue with remote viewer team ?<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>sounds like a good idea, SPICE people will be likely able to help</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">To answer your last question : "What oVirt installation needs VNC? " Indeed, oVirt hosted-engine installation needs a console and it proposes VNC and SPICE (vnc is default). SPICE console asks for a certificate configuration that I did not spent the necessary time to make it work as VNC works right out of the box (even if there is the refresh rate problem).<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>ok, we’re finally adding headless VM option, but indeed for now you do not have any better choice for HE. But at least you do not really have to use it, right? You should be able to work with it over ssh.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">any information or hint to find a solution would be appreciated. thanks<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__" class=""><div class="">cordialement, regards,</div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><table style="margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" width="460" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; 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font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">Hello,<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 to windows 10, launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are configured with VNC graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 seconds). This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works perfectly.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class="">So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you verify with a Windows 7 laptop that the performance is good?</div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""><div class="">This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class="">What oVirt installation needs VNC? </div><div class=""> Y.</div><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""><div class="">So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or windows 10.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Does anybody else have this problem? any advice?<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">cordialement, regards,</div><br class=""><table style="margin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px" width="460" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td 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