<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Michael,<br><br></div>I'm glad that I could help.<br><br>Yes, while USB3 has an impressive interface (and thus potential) speed of up to 5 gbps (or over 600 MB/sec) the actual hardware normally provides speeds which for basic DOKs are even under USB 2.0 spec. in most cases (under 60 MB/sec.).<br></div></div><div><br></div>However, as I also mentioned, it will only affect the time it takes to load, and from my experience with any decent DOK it's quite OK, you don't even have to invest into ultra-expensive and ultra-fast one, especially if you don't plan to "re-burn" the DOK very often.<br><br></div>Thanks in advance,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Michael McConachie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael.mcconachie@hotmail.com" target="_blank">michael.mcconachie@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">That's exactly what I thought; you hit all the points (including slow DOM SATA
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oVirt-Live's basically functions as any other LiveCD, so no special differences here.<br>
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<div>Generally it means that necessary kernel/kernel modules/programs are loaded into RAM, and access to the image is needed if e.g. one wants to run some more programs.<br>
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<div>Note however that since the whole CD isn't copied into RAM, so you still need it to be accessible, e.g. have the USB DOK be inserted into the computer.<br>
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<div>As you already mentioned the oVirt-Live is designed to work in a sandboxed environment as far as the network is concerned.<br>
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<div>Regarding performance: we haven't tested it, but probably the oVirt-Live may take a bit more time to load when compared to normal installation.<br>
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<div>This is because USB DOKs are generally slower than SAS/SATA HDDs/SSDs.<br>
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<div>The price of this is of course that once the system is rebooted for whatever reason all data is lost.<br>
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<p>Potentially stupid question here. Sorry in advance if so. I have always built out full blown multi rack instances of oVirt, and RHEV for clients, but the following question has me wondering before I go digging and trying it out...</p>
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<p>I realize that the oVirtLive ISO is for demo purposes, sandboxing, and not production: I have a client, who is in need of a bootable AIO-based USB install with the caveat of being able to connect to the computer's HD and other external storage at that point
(for the Storage and ISO domains that I'll create afterwards). This is because they have one BM to work with and they don't want the extra overhead using an SSD HD slot. They don't want to use a Sata DOM either if possible.<br>
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<p>- Are there a terrible performance costs if we stay with USB3 (which has a ridiculous theoretical speed in certain hardware matching situations)?</p>
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<p>Thanks in advance for anyone who might have already crossed this bridge and can provide insight.<br>
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