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    <p>Is it just me just finds strange the way oVirt/RHEV does backup ?</p>
    <p>At the present you have to snapshot the VM (fine by that), but
      them you have to clone AND export it to an Export Domain, then
      delete the cloned VM. That means three copies of the same VM
      somewhere.</p>
    <p>Wouldn't it be more logical to take a snapshot, get the then
      read-only disk and export it directly from any host that can read
      it, and finally remove the snapshot ?</p>
    <p>Why the need to clone AND export ? What is the limitation to pull
      this VM directlly from host decreasing the time it takes the
      overall process and mainly the amount of storage necessary to do
      this job.<br>
      Ohh and before I forget by this workflow the disks are hammered a
      lot more decreasing their lifetime and may causing performance
      issues mainly during the clone process.</p>
    <p>Fernando<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/09/2017 14:59, Nathanaël Blanchet
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      <p>Yes seems to be good, the UI is very nice, but I didn't manage
        to make one backup though the connection to the API is okay. I
        followed the README but Nothing happens when lauching the backup
        processus...<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 21/09/2017 à 19:34, Niyazi Elvan a
        écrit :<br>
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          <div>Hi,
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            <div dir="auto">You may check my project Bacchus at <a
                href="https://github.com/openbacchus/bacchus"
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 21, 2017 19:54, "Bernardo
                Juanicó" &lt;<a href="mailto:bjuanico@gmail.com"
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                  <div dir="ltr">I didnt know that, we may adapt it in
                    the future, but at first we will probably just write
                    a basic set of scripts for minimal backup
                    functionally since our dev time is limited.
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                    <div>Ill keep you in mind when looking into it.</div>
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                    <div>Regards,</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>Bernardo</div>
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                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">PGP
                            Key</a><br>
                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true">Skype:
                              mattraken</a><br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-21 13:08
                        GMT-03:00 Nathanaël Blanchet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            href="mailto:blanchet@abes.fr"
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                            <p>Hi Bernardo,</p>
                            <p>Thanks, I knew this tool, but it is based
                              on sdk3 which will be removed in the next
                              version 4.2, so I'm looking at sdk4
                              project. <br>
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                            <p>You may want to adapt it?<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Nathanael, 
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                                    <div>You may want to take a look at
                                      this too:<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a
                                        href="https://github.com/bjuanico/oVirtBackup"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/bjuanico/oV<wbr>irtBackup</a><br>
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                                    <div>Regards,</div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-21
                                        11:00 GMT-03:00 Nathanaël
                                        Blanchet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                            <p>Hello Victor,</p>
                                            <p>I have some questions
                                              about your script<br>
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                                              07/07/2017 à 23:40, Victor
                                              José Acosta Domínguez a
                                              écrit :<br>
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                                                <div>Hello everyone, i
                                                  created a python tool
                                                  to backup and restore
                                                  oVirt's VMs.</div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                <div>Also i created a
                                                  little "how to" on my
                                                  blog:</div>
                                                <div><a
                                                    href="http://blog.infratic.com/2017/07/create-ovirtrhevs-vm-backup/"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://blog.infratic.com/2017/<wbr>07/create-ovirtrhevs-vm-backup<wbr>/</a></div>
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                                            <ul>
                                              <li>Backup step is okay,
                                                and I get a usable qcow2
                                                image of the snapshot vm
                                                in the backup vm. It
                                                seems to be compliant
                                                with the official backup
                                                API, except on the step
                                                2.</li>
                                            </ul>
                                            <ol>
                                              <li><i>Take a snapshot of
                                                  the virtual machine to
                                                  be backed up -
                                                  (existing oVirt REST
                                                  API operation)</i></li>
                                              <li><i>Back up the virtual
                                                  machine configuration
                                                  at the time of the
                                                  snapshot (the disk
                                                  configuration can be
                                                  backed up as well if
                                                  needed) - (added
                                                  capability to oVirt as
                                                  part of the Backup
                                                  API)</i></li>
                                            </ol>
                                            <p><font color="#ff0000">I
                                                can't see any vm
                                                configuration anywhere
                                                but only the qcow2 disk
                                                itself</font></p>
                                            <ol>
                                              <li><i>Attach the disk
                                                  snapshots that were
                                                  created in (1) to the
                                                  virtual appliance for
                                                  data backup - (added
                                                  capability to oVirt as
                                                  part of the Backup
                                                  API)</i></li>
                                              <li> <i><br>
                                                </i></li>
                                              <li><i>Detach the disk
                                                  snapshots that were
                                                  attached in (4) from
                                                  the virtual appliance
                                                  - (added capability to
                                                  oVirt as part of the
                                                  Backup API)</i></li>
                                            </ol>
                                            <p>An other case is when the
                                              vm to backup has more than
                                              one disk. After I tested
                                              it, I found that only one
                                              qcow2 disk is saved on the
                                              backup vm. This is really
                                              a matter when the original
                                              vm has many disks part of
                                              lvm, it makes the vm
                                              restoration unusable.<br>
                                            </p>
                                            <ul>
                                              <li>About vm restoration,
                                                it seems that you are
                                                using the upload_disk
                                                api, so the disk is
                                                uploaded to the
                                                pre-defined storage
                                                domain, so it is not a
                                                real vm restoration.   
                                                <br>
                                              </li>
                                            </ul>
                                            <p>Do you plan to backup and
                                              restore a full VM (disks +
                                              vm definition) in a next
                                              release?<br>
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                                                <div>I hope it help
                                                  someone else</div>
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                                                <div>Regards</div>
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