From adrian.gibanel at btactic.com Fri Jan 25 13:00:48 2013 From: adrian.gibanel at btactic.com (Adrian Gibanel ) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:00:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Wiki] Where to put my wiki pages? In-Reply-To: <26410397.533.1359118352691.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Message-ID: <23835641.678.1359118841543.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Hi, As I was an oVirt wiki newbie I decided to put all my new pages into my own pages and subpages which you can find here: http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15 . Now I would like to move some howtos that I consider being stable or maybe all because most people on the mailing list thinks that it's better to write directly an standard oVirt wiki page. 1) So... For the howtos I'm lacking a Howtos page where howtos could be categorised somehow that would link my howto here: http://www.ovirt.org/Documentation . I would put myself in User Documentation but I don't do it because: * I don't have rw permissions on this page * Even if I had rw permissions it's a very generic page and I'm a bit relunctant to edit without the community advice. 2) And for the Network page: http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Network_Index which tries to redirect people based on what Network category they are interested I don't know where it would fit into http://www.ovirt.org/Documentation current design. Maybe inside Guide to oVirt features? Maybe a new link to Network. Or creating a new page named Concepts where one of the concepts would be network? 3) If you have any piece of advice of how to improve my current wiki page styles or contents go ahead. Well, thank you all, hope that this is right mailing list to use because last archive is from October 2012. -- Adri?n Gibanel I.T. Manager +34 675 683 301 www.btactic.com Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: i Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. AVIS: El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge . AVISO: El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adrian.gibanel at btactic.com Sat Jan 26 15:27:22 2013 From: adrian.gibanel at btactic.com (Adrian Gibanel ) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:27:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <2646137.480.1359213911323.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Message-ID: <11441763.509.1359214040181.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> I've noticed that searching for: "vnc" in the wiki does not offer this page: http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Setting_VNC_locale which it's a user's page. Search is not working on purpose because of spammers or whatever? Or maybe search is not working ok? Thank you. -- Adri?n Gibanel I.T. Manager +34 675 683 301 www.btactic.com Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: i Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. AVIS: El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge . AVISO: El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dneary at redhat.com Sat Jan 26 17:30:03 2013 From: dneary at redhat.com (Dave Neary) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:30:03 +0100 Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <11441763.509.1359214040181.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> References: <11441763.509.1359214040181.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Message-ID: <5104129B.8080904@redhat.com> Hi Adrian, It's possible we're running into a well known but rather annoying "3 letter search terms are ignored" bug in MediaWiki. There is a fix, but it involves reindexing the database, and changing MySQL and Mediawiki settings. Can you create a Trac ticket for this, please? https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report Thanks! Dave. On 01/26/2013 04:27 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote: > I've noticed that searching for: "vnc" in the wiki does not offer > this page: > > http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Setting_VNC_locale > > which it's a user's page. > > Search is not working on purpose because of spammers or whatever? > Or maybe search is not working ok? > > Thank you. > > -- > *Adri?n Gibanel* > I.T. Manager > > +34 675 683 301 > www.btactic.com > > > * > Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: > > > i * > > Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi > ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el > medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. > > AVIS: > El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no > en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, > divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si > heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber > immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge. > > AVISO: > El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es > el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, > divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si > han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan > saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki mailing list > Wiki at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki > -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jan 28 03:55:13 2013 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:55:13 +0100 Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <5104129B.8080904@redhat.com> References: <11441763.509.1359214040181.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> <5104129B.8080904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <5105F6A1.30200@redhat.com> On 01/26/2013 06:30 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > It's possible we're running into a well known but rather annoying "3 > letter search terms are ignored" bug in MediaWiki. There is a fix, but > it involves reindexing the database, and changing MySQL and Mediawiki > settings. Can you create a Trac ticket for this, please? > https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report I think that [User:] pages are not in the default search path. This is likely set that way to allow users to create content as non-findable drafts. When users have pages they want found, I think the usual thing is to move the page from [User:] space. In this case, move the page to [Setting VNC locale]. I think there are some fairly good reasons for having the [User:] space out of the default search. If we were to consider changing that, I think we'd want to talk about it on arch@ to get other people's thoughts. Cheers - Karsten > Thanks! > Dave. > > On 01/26/2013 04:27 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote: >> I've noticed that searching for: "vnc" in the wiki does not offer >> this page: >> >> http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Setting_VNC_locale >> >> which it's a user's page. >> >> Search is not working on purpose because of spammers or whatever? >> Or maybe search is not working ok? >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> *Adri?n Gibanel* >> I.T. Manager >> >> +34 675 683 301 >> www.btactic.com >> >> >> * >> Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: >> >> >> i * >> >> Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi >> ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el >> medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. >> >> AVIS: >> El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no >> en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, >> divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si >> heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber >> immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge. >> >> AVISO: >> El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es >> el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, >> divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si >> han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan >> saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki mailing list >> Wiki at ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki >> > -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 255 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dneary at redhat.com Mon Jan 28 10:51:28 2013 From: dneary at redhat.com (Dave Neary) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:51:28 +0100 Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <5105F6A1.30200@redhat.com> References: <11441763.509.1359214040181.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> <5104129B.8080904@redhat.com> <5105F6A1.30200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <51065830.5010807@redhat.com> Hi, On 01/28/2013 04:55 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > I think that [User:] pages are not in the default search path. Ah yes, good call. > I think there are some fairly good reasons for having the [User:] space > out of the default search. If we were to consider changing that, I think > we'd want to talk about it on arch@ to get other people's thoughts. Agreed. For information: * You can work around this as an individual user by adding domains to the default search (Preferences->Search options->check User namespace) * We can add User to the default namespaces covered in search by setting $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault[NS_USER] to true in LocalSettings.php Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 From adrian.gibanel at btactic.com Mon Jan 28 14:20:06 2013 From: adrian.gibanel at btactic.com (Adrian Gibanel ) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:20:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <5105F6A1.30200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <31230221.100.1359382801369.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Ok. So it's what I thought then. Disabled by defaut. I'd prefer you not to enable it so that other users convince themselves to rename their pages into normal pages. Now, I just need some advice ('Where to put my wiki pages' email) in order to do so myself. Thank you. ----- Mensaje original ----- > De: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > Para: wiki at ovirt.org > Enviados: Lunes, 28 de Enero 2013 4:55:13 > Asunto: Re: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages > On 01/26/2013 06:30 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > > > It's possible we're running into a well known but rather annoying > > "3 > > letter search terms are ignored" bug in MediaWiki. There is a fix, > > but > > it involves reindexing the database, and changing MySQL and > > Mediawiki > > settings. Can you create a Trac ticket for this, please? > > https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report > I think that [User:] pages are not in the default search path. > This is likely set that way to allow users to create content as > non-findable drafts. When users have pages they want found, I think > the > usual thing is to move the page from [User:] space. In this case, > move > the page to [Setting VNC locale]. > I think there are some fairly good reasons for having the [User:] > space > out of the default search. If we were to consider changing that, I > think > we'd want to talk about it on arch@ to get other people's thoughts. > Cheers - Karsten > > Thanks! > > Dave. > > > > On 01/26/2013 04:27 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote: > >> I've noticed that searching for: "vnc" in the wiki does not offer > >> this page: > >> > >> http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Setting_VNC_locale > >> > >> which it's a user's page. > >> > >> Search is not working on purpose because of spammers or whatever? > >> Or maybe search is not working ok? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- > >> *Adri?n Gibanel* -- Adri?n Gibanel I.T. Manager +34 675 683 301 www.btactic.com Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: i Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. AVIS: El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge . AVISO: El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dneary at redhat.com Mon Jan 28 14:37:51 2013 From: dneary at redhat.com (Dave Neary) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:51 +0100 Subject: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages In-Reply-To: <31230221.100.1359382801369.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> References: <31230221.100.1359382801369.JavaMail.adrian@adrianworktop> Message-ID: <51068D3F.5050503@redhat.com> Hi Adrian, I'm playing catch-up this week, but your email is one I plan to reply to. The short answer is, please create the page in the Main namespace, and I will link to it from the User documentation page. You can add it to Category:Documentation to begin, and perhaps it's appropriate to link to it from other pages besides Documentation (which is kind of intended to be a "most frequently used" page). Thanks! Dave. On 01/28/2013 03:20 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote: > Ok. So it's what I thought then. Disabled by defaut. > I'd prefer you not to enable it so that other users convince themselves > to rename their pages into normal pages. > > Now, I just need some advice ('Where to put my wiki pages' email) in > order to do so myself. > > Thank you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *De: *"Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > *Para: *wiki at ovirt.org > *Enviados: *Lunes, 28 de Enero 2013 4:55:13 > *Asunto: *Re: [Wiki] Search not working on user pages > > On 01/26/2013 06:30 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > > > It's possible we're running into a well known but rather annoying "3 > > letter search terms are ignored" bug in MediaWiki. There is a > fix, but > > it involves reindexing the database, and changing MySQL and Mediawiki > > settings. Can you create a Trac ticket for this, please? > > https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report > > I think that [User:] pages are not in the default search path. > > This is likely set that way to allow users to create content as > non-findable drafts. When users have pages they want found, I think the > usual thing is to move the page from [User:] space. In this case, move > the page to [Setting VNC locale]. > > I think there are some fairly good reasons for having the [User:] space > out of the default search. If we were to consider changing that, I think > we'd want to talk about it on arch@ to get other people's thoughts. > > Cheers - Karsten > > > Thanks! > > Dave. > > > > On 01/26/2013 04:27 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote: > >> I've noticed that searching for: "vnc" in the wiki does not offer > >> this page: > >> > >> http://www.ovirt.org/User:Adrian15/Setting_VNC_locale > >> > >> which it's a user's page. > >> > >> Search is not working on purpose because of spammers or whatever? > >> Or maybe search is not working ok? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- > >> *Adri?n Gibanel* > > > > > -- > *Adri?n Gibanel* > I.T. Manager > > +34 675 683 301 > www.btactic.com > > > * > Ens podeu seguir a/Nos podeis seguir en: > > > i * > > Abans d?imprimir aquest missatge, pensa en el medi ambient. El medi > ambient ?s cosa de tothom. / Antes de imprimir el mensaje piensa en el > medio ambiente. El medio ambiente es cosa de todos. > > AVIS: > El contingut d'aquest missatge i els seus annexos ?s confidencial. Si no > en sou el destinatari, us fem saber que est? prohibit utilitzar-lo, > divulgar-lo i/o copiar-lo sense tenir l'autoritzaci? corresponent. Si > heu rebut aquest missatge per error, us agrairem que ho feu saber > immediatament al remitent i que procediu a destruir el missatge. > > AVISO: > El contenido de este mensaje y de sus anexos es confidencial. Si no es > el destinatario, les hacemos saber que est? prohibido utilizarlo, > divulgarlo y/o copiarlo sin tener la autorizaci?n correspondiente. Si > han recibido este mensaje por error, les agradecer?amos que lo hagan > saber inmediatamente al remitente y que procedan a destruir el mensaje. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki mailing list > Wiki at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki > -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13