[Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
Alona Kaplan
alkaplan at redhat.com
Tue Oct 9 09:34:56 UTC 2012
The wiki was updated with the final design.
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Feature/NetworkMainTab
Thanks for the comments,
Alona.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon at redhat.com>
> To: "Alona Kaplan" <alkaplan at redhat.com>
> Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:36:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
>
> Trying to sum up some of the suggestions ('coincidently' dropping
> those which I think a bit too much for first implementation :)) and
> add some suggestions of my own
>
> 1. On the hosts subtab:
> 1.1 Have a radio button that will show either
> 1.1.1 All the hosts that this network is attached to
> 1.1.2 All the hosts where this network attached to the cluster
> but not to the host (Very important for non-required where
> the host status does not indicate something is missing)
> 1.2 Have a remove button for 1.1.1, ManageNetworks button for
> 1.1.2. Simple add will not do since you don't know where to add.
>
> 2. On the vms subtab
> 2.1 Have a radio button that will show either
> 2.1.1 All the vms that this network is attached to
> 2.1.2 All the vms where this network is not attached to
> 2.2 Have a 'remove' button for 2.1.1, Have 'add' button for 2.1.2
> 2.3 Allow multiple selection for both actions of 2.2
> 2.4 Add remove from all button.
> 2.5 I would not bother to show all the nics attached to the VM
> from the same network, it's too rare. Just make sure there is no
> exception if this does exist. So the columns should have 'nic' as
> the first and there should be only one VM per line. If there are
> more then one nic per VM then just indicate 'multiple'
>
> 3. Templates subtab - same as VM, drop the expansion of the NICs
> list.
>
> 4. Clusters subtab
> Allow assign to multiple clusters - same as the edit in the data
> center tab (Just use the same dialogue)
>
> 5. Main: You have enough space then why not add the MTU column?
>
> 6. Queries for the sub tabs: For each needs the reverse query as well
> (Probably more important when adding new network)
>
>
> Oops, I think I mostly added and dropped (almost) nothing :)
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Avi Tal" <atal at redhat.com>
> > To: "Yaniv Kaul" <ykaul at redhat.com>
> > Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:13:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Yaniv Kaul" <ykaul at redhat.com>
> > > To: "Moti Asayag" <masayag at redhat.com>
> > > Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:16:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> > >
> > > On 09/23/2012 06:12 PM, Moti Asayag wrote:
> > > > On 09/23/2012 05:01 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
> > > >> On 09/23/2012 04:55 PM, Alona Kaplan wrote:
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Avi Tal" <atal at redhat.com>
> > > >>>> To: "Alona Kaplan" <alkaplan at redhat.com>
> > > >>>> Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:17:26 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>> From: "Alona Kaplan" <alkaplan at redhat.com>
> > > >>>>> To: "Avi Tal" <atal at redhat.com>
> > > >>>>> Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:31:32 PM
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1. What actions do you suggest to add?
> > > >>>> Add, Edit and remove actions of each component.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> Host:
> > > >>> Add- What will add action on Networks->Hosts sub tab do?
> > > >>> Choose
> > > >>> an
> > > >>> existing host and attach the network to one of its nics?
> > > >>> How will it work? after choosing the host you will open
> > > >>> setupNetworks
> > > >>> window and just enable dragging of the selected network (in
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> main
> > > >>> tab) to a nic? I think it is too much.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Edit- same as add.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Remove- What is the meaning of Remove host in network's
> > > >>> context?
> > > >>> The
> > > >>> network will be detached from the host? I think it is
> > > >>> confusing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Vm/Template:
> > > >>> Add: What will it do? You will choose a vm and then add a
> > > >>> vnic
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> vm? Where will you see the vnic details?
> > > >>> Edit: Same as add.
> > > >>> Remove: You will remove all the vnics that use the selected
> > > >>> network
> > > >>> from the vm? Or do you mean to add a remove per vnic?
> > > >> For all the above: yes.
> > > >> We can certainly work on the small details, but having a main
> > > >> tab
> > > >> with
> > > >> little to no action whatsoever is kinda disappointing.
> > > > IMO adding 'assign' action in the main tab might be handy in
> > > > order
> > > > to
> > > > assign a single network in a single dialog to several clusters.
> > > >
> > > > However It is not clear to me how Add/Edit for a VM in a
> > > > sub-tab
> > > > should
> > > > look like. The VM should have a list of interfaces (represented
> > > > as
> > > > sub
> > > > collection/tree).
> > >
> > > I was thinking more of right-click on the network, selecting 'Add
> > > to
> > > VM'
> > > and then selecting single/mutliple VMs from a dialog with all the
> > > VMs
> > > (yes, filtered via search).
> > > Y.
> > >
> >
> > +1
> >
> > > > What will be the meaning of 'Add' in that context? Since the VM
> > > > already
> > > > have a vNIC attached to that network. If adding another once,
> > > > it
> > > > should
> > > > be enabled on the record representing the VM itself which will
> > > > confuse
> > > > the user.
> > > > Same goes for 'Edit' of a VM interface under a context of a
> > > > specific
> > > > network: in the current 'Edit VM Interface' you can change the
> > > > network.
> > > > Should the same dialog be used here as well?
> > > >
> > > > The 'Remove' option is the clearer action on this context.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> (example of 'small details' - yes, when clicking remove for a
> > > >> VM/template - it will remove all vNICs that use that network
> > > >> from
> > > >> the
> > > >> VM. A VM with more than one vNIC on the same network is not
> > > >> the
> > > >> common
> > > >> case anyway, and if you want to remove just a single vNIC, go
> > > >> to
> > > >> the
> > > >> VM). I think we can also live with Add/Remove only, and
> > > >> 'defer'
> > > >> the edit
> > > >> actions to the respectable objects (host/vm/template) edit
> > > >> dialog
> > > >> boxes
> > > >> that originates from their own main tab.
> > > >>
> > > >> Y.
> > > >>
> > > >>>>> 2. I don't understand your suggestion. You mean add
> > > >>>>> SetupNetworks
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> the Networks main tab?
> > > >>>> No.
> > > >>>> Just Thinking of a nice display which will present logical
> > > >>>> network
> > > >>>> and his connected host/vm configuration instead of passing
> > > >>>> through
> > > >>>> dub-tabs
> > > >>>> I should give it a deeper thought.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>>> From: "Avi Tal" <atal at redhat.com>
> > > >>>>>> To: "Alona Kaplan" <alkaplan at redhat.com>
> > > >>>>>> Cc: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:58:05 PM
> > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1. Why not having Actions for Hosts, Vms and Templates ?
> > > >>>>>> I believe we should have those actions instead of making
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>> user
> > > >>>>>> browse between 'network -> vms -> network (sub tab)' just
> > > >>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>> order
> > > >>>>>> to update VM's network.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2. Why having such a big window which most of the time
> > > >>>>>> will
> > > >>>>>> be
> > > >>>>>> empty?
> > > >>>>>> How many logical network would be existed in the
> > > >>>>>> system?
> > > >>>>>> My suggestion is to go for more graphical window
> > > >>>>>> which
> > > >>>>>> will
> > > >>>>>> present:
> > > >>>>>> A. logical networks
> > > >>>>>> B. Multiple networks with the host configurations at
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>> same
> > > >>>>>> window: very important because most of the System
> > > >>>>>> admins
> > > >>>>>> would
> > > >>>>>> like to have a bigger picture of the entire network
> > > >>>>>> configuration
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>>> From: "Alona Kaplan" <alkaplan at redhat.com>
> > > >>>>>> To: engine-devel at ovirt.org
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:50:15 PM
> > > >>>>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] RFE: Netwrok Main Tab
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Please review the wiki and add your comments.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Feature/NetworkMainTab
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> RFE:
> > > >>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/858742
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>> Alona.
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