4:46 p.m.
How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
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5 p.m.
On 11/16/2011 08:46 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
Only problem with that is spam. If you allow non-registered to post to
lists in general w/o moderation, you inevitably end up with spam being
sent to the list. Otherwise, I agree with you and it _would_ be much
nicer to allow unregistered users to post
Perry
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5:12 p.m.
On 11/16/2011 04:00 PM, Perry Myers wrote:
On 11/16/2011 08:46 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
> How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
Only problem with that is spam. If you allow non-registered to post to
lists in general w/o moderation, you inevitably end up with spam being
sent to the list. Otherwise, I agree with you and it _would_ be much
nicer to allow unregistered users to post
Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span.
We can try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if
we'll get too many Viagra offers.
I'm just glad to help some poor soles in Africa from time to time :)
Perry
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5:14 p.m.
On 11/16/2011 09:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
On 11/16/2011 04:00 PM, Perry Myers wrote:
> On 11/16/2011 08:46 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
>> How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
>
> Only problem with that is spam. If you allow non-registered to post to
> lists in general w/o moderation, you inevitably end up with spam being
> sent to the list. Otherwise, I agree with you and it _would_ be much
> nicer to allow unregistered users to post
Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span.
We can try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if
we'll get too many Viagra offers.
LOL. Is there such a thing as 'too many Viagra offers' ?
I'm just glad to help some poor soles in Africa from time to time
:)
I'm fine with opening up and then closing only if we get inundated. So
+1 on your suggestion then.
6:03 p.m.
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On 11/16/2011 06:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span. We can
try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if we'll
get too many Viagra offers.
Based on what I've seen so far to e.g. rsvp(a)ovirt.org (an
open-to-any-poster list) and in the moderation queues, it will be
nearly zero time until the spam starts. It's several pieces a day,
each list, some days several multiples of that, and it seems to be
growing in intensity.
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On 11/16/2011 06:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
> Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span. We can
> try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if we'll
> get too many Viagra offers.
Based on what I've seen so far to e.g. rsvp(a)ovirt.org (an
open-to-any-poster list) and in the moderation queues, it will be
nearly zero time until the spam starts. It's several pieces a day,
each list, some days several multiples of that, and it seems to be
growing in intensity.
indeed, on vdsm-devel it's several every day, it's really annoying.
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6:17 p.m.
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On 11/16/2011 09:11 AM, Ayal Baron wrote:
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> On 11/16/2011 06:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
>
>> Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span. We can
>> try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if we'll
>> get too many Viagra offers.
>
> Based on what I've seen so far to e.g. rsvp(a)ovirt.org (an
> open-to-any-poster list) and in the moderation queues, it will be
> nearly zero time until the spam starts. It's several pieces a day,
> each list, some days several multiples of that, and it seems to be
> growing in intensity.
indeed, on vdsm-devel it's several every day, it's really annoying.
That suggests that ovirt.org needs better spam filtering.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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7:34 p.m.
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On 11/16/2011 07:17 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> That suggests that ovirt.org needs better spam filtering.
The consensus from the meeting today was to make a call for moderators
and get the queues under control and flowing inbound non-spam to the
lists.
- From the setup-new-services perspective, we need a bit more time in
Infrastructure to add new services to manage. We've grown really
quickly, and we need to bring in more help, get everyone familiar with
working together, and organize the processes before we add an entirely
new service.
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On 11/16/2011 05:11 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
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> On 11/16/2011 06:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
>
>> Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span. We can
>> try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if we'll
>> get too many Viagra offers.
>
> Based on what I've seen so far to e.g. rsvp(a)ovirt.org (an
> open-to-any-poster list) and in the moderation queues, it will be
> nearly zero time until the spam starts. It's several pieces a day,
> each list, some days several multiples of that, and it seems to be
> growing in intensity.
indeed, on vdsm-devel it's several every day, it's really annoying.
It's also annoying to register or wait for the moderator to authorize
your request. Ignore me but think of someone random from
qemu/libvirt/whatever that wants to report something or participate in a
discussion.
Filtering 3-5 spam emails a day is not much.
>
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New subject: Your message to Arch awaits moderator approval
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On 11/16/2011 05:11 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
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>> On 11/16/2011 06:12 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
>>
>>> Spam is annoying but qemu is open and isn't full w/ span. We can
>>> try opening up ovrit* and close it back to registered only if
>>> we'll
>>> get too many Viagra offers.
>>
>> Based on what I've seen so far to e.g. rsvp(a)ovirt.org (an
>> open-to-any-poster list) and in the moderation queues, it will be
>> nearly zero time until the spam starts. It's several pieces a day,
>> each list, some days several multiples of that, and it seems to be
>> growing in intensity.
>
> indeed, on vdsm-devel it's several every day, it's really annoying.
It's also annoying to register or wait for the moderator to authorize
your request. Ignore me
we're trying, it's hard ;)
but think of someone random from
qemu/libvirt/whatever that wants to report something or participate
in a
discussion.
Filtering 3-5 spam emails a day is not much.
per list
>
>>
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6 p.m.
I would prefer people to have to subscribe to avoid spam.
Carl.
On 11/16/2011 08:46 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:45:21 -0500
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Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent
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6:36 p.m.
On 11/16/2011 05:31 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/16/2011 05:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
>
> I would prefer people to have to subscribe to avoid spam.
same here.
IMHO a new project should be friendlier to the community than for its
maintainers. The kernel, qemu, kvm, xen and more manage to handle the
spam alright.
6:47 p.m.
* Dor Laor (dlaor(a)redhat.com) wrote:
On 11/16/2011 05:31 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>On 11/16/2011 05:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>
>>
>>I would prefer people to have to subscribe to avoid spam.
>
>same here.
IMHO a new project should be friendlier to the community than for its
maintainers. The kernel, qemu, kvm, xen and more manage to handle the spam
alright.
I have same issue w/ mailman lists @linuxfoundation. I have them closed
and moderate unsubscribed posters. The sender is not informed that they
are being moderated, and I always add the sender to the whitelist as
part of accepting the email. I don't ever get complaints for this setup.
thanks,
-chris
7:05 p.m.
New subject: Call for list moderators.
Hi all,
The issue of list moderation, particularly moderation of posts from unsubscribed users
(usually their first post) vs spam, was raised at today's meeting. For now we have
agreed that we should continue with the status quo whereby posts from unsubscribed users
require moderation, as always there is a 'but' though. We need more moderators!
The task is not too onerous at this time but ideally we'd like a few moderators for
each list to ensure that any posts awaiting moderation are always processed in a timely
manner. If you'd like to nominate yourself as a volunteer please just respond to this
message, include the @ovirt.org list(s) you'd be happy to moderate in your message.
Thanks,
Steve
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How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved emails?
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New subject: Call for list moderators.
Hi,
i don't mind volunteer to help with engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
(maybe even more later on if needed)
Omer.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:05:48 PM
Subject: Call for list moderators.
Hi all,
The issue of list moderation, particularly moderation of posts from
unsubscribed users (usually their first post) vs spam, was raised at
today's meeting. For now we have agreed that we should continue with
the status quo whereby posts from unsubscribed users require
moderation, as always there is a 'but' though. We need more
moderators!
The task is not too onerous at this time but ideally we'd like a few
moderators for each list to ensure that any posts awaiting
moderation are always processed in a timely manner. If you'd like to
nominate yourself as a volunteer please just respond to this
message, include the @ovirt.org list(s) you'd be happy to moderate
in your message.
Thanks,
Steve
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> How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved
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> Your mail to 'Arch' with the subject
>
> Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent
>
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3:34 p.m.
New subject: Call for list moderators.
On 11/17/2011 05:43 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:
Hi,
i don't mind volunteer to help with engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
(maybe even more later on if needed)
Omer.
+1 for Omer helping with pending moderator requests.
Livnat
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:05:48 PM
> Subject: Call for list moderators.
>
> Hi all,
>
> The issue of list moderation, particularly moderation of posts from
> unsubscribed users (usually their first post) vs spam, was raised at
> today's meeting. For now we have agreed that we should continue with
> the status quo whereby posts from unsubscribed users require
> moderation, as always there is a 'but' though. We need more
> moderators!
>
> The task is not too onerous at this time but ideally we'd like a few
> moderators for each list to ensure that any posts awaiting
> moderation are always processed in a timely manner. If you'd like to
> nominate yourself as a volunteer please just respond to this
> message, include the @ovirt.org list(s) you'd be happy to moderate
> in your message.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
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>> How about allowing non registered members to send unapproved
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>>
>> Your mail to 'Arch' with the subject
>>
>> Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent
>>
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