----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo(a)redhat.com>, "David Caro"
<dcaroest(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:48:19 PM
> Subject: Re: About merging patches without tests
>
> On 05/16/2014 05:38 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>> Il 16/05/2014 10:37, David Caro ha scritto:
>>> On Fri 16 May 2014 09:33:44 AM CEST, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>> Il 15/05/2014 18:46, David Caro ha scritto:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> From time to time we have some patches that are merged to master
>>>>> branches
>>>>> without having been tested mostly because the developer merges
before
>>>>> having any
>>>>> response from the jenkins system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merging one of those patches makes any following test run on that
branch
>>>>> to
>>>>> fail, and creating a lot of noise and trouble around all patches and
>>>>> jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I wanted to stat a little discussion to bring up ideas on how to
>>>>> prevent
>>>>> that. Some random thoughts:
>>>>>
>>>>> * -1 the patch at jenkins job start, and reset to 0 on success or
infra
>>>>> failure,
>>>>> and keep -1 if jenkins failure
>>>>> * Only send a message to the patch with 'jenkins jobs
started'
>>>>
>>>> I think that something like "jenkins jobs started, please don't
merge
>>>> until they finish" should be enough.
>>>>
>>>>> * Setup zuul as gateway, and make it block the patches if they do
not
>>>>> pass the tests
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Usually the flow is reabase -> submit, that is done pretty easily from
>>> the ui, and it does not give too much time to check any comments (the
>>> rebase and submit buttons are on the top, and the comments show at the
>>> end).
>>> So doing that will not help on that case, as the developer would not
>>> see the comment before submitting. I think we should block, at least
>>> for a couple minutes, so he has to read the comments to be able to
>>> submit.
>>>
>>> We had that before also, adding a comment when the jobs start, but we
>>> removed it by developers request iirc
>>
>> Also recently you can just press submit and it automatically rebase before
>> merging.
>> So maybe yes, just a message isn't enough
>
> its not possible to wait for the job on a simple rebase usually - too
> many collisions possible.
we're mostly talking about jobs that fail to compile, i think in those cases,
it worth to wait for jenkins job to finish.
if the previous patch failed to compile - i agree.
if a rebase of a patch that passed previously, waiting for another round
of jobs isn't practical if other merge in the meantime. I'd say:
- wait for it if last patch is several days old.
- make sure to check the email from automation post the merge and
revert/fix if it broke in a short loop.