1:53 p.m.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:52 PM Evgheni Dereveanchin <ederevea(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
The primary function of lists.ovirt.org is to provide mailing lists
and
display their archives.
Hyperkitty is a UI to display archives and it was not intended to act as a
forum.
It does have issues displaying archives yet there are outstanding issues
upstream.
Until they are fixed the preferred use case is subscribing and
communicating via email.
As for integrating with Reddit - we can set up one-way forwarding
(reddit->ML) using one of the existing bots
to ensure new threads are visible to subscribers yet discussion would
still happen on Reddit.
From my point of view, mailing lists are a good solution for people with
lots of incoming correspondence
as everyone can set up their own filters and processing rules. The best
use of Reddit is probably as an
alternative to the users list where people can exchange experience and fix
issues.
As I understand, this is the subreddit in question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ovirt/
~500 subscribers, 5 threads this month.
~1500 subscribers, ~100 threads this month
From the first glance it looks like the list is doing fine with many
active users.
Will it be enough to just notify list subscribers of a new reddit thread?
What do you think?
I agree that the mailing list is doing fine, almost too active for me to
follow :-)
Mailing list is easier to search since everything is indexed by Google (or
whatever search
engine you prefer).
Mailing list allow also integration with other mailing lists like
qemu-block, qemu-discuss,
libvirt, lvm, gluster, sanlock, and people on these lists. It is important
that we can get public
input from from the projects we depend on.
Reddit is nice (I use it a lot) but not a replacement for mailing list. If
someone want to
maintain the sub redit, why not. But I don't see us spending time on both
the mailing
list and reddit.
What are the real issues we have in the mailing list?
Nir
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:51 PM Sandro Bonazzola
<sbonazzo(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 16:00 Greg Sheremeta <
> gshereme(a)redhat.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> After a user on the users list asked about a forum, I pointed them to
>> our hyperkitty instance [lists.ovirt.org], which people did not know
>> about. Maybe that was a bad idea, because a few who started looking at it
>> commented that it was broken. This is not a good community experience.
>> [Thank you, Marc, for opening
>> https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/206 - but no reply for 2
>> months on a *major* bug like that?]
>>
>> While investigating the threading issue today, I found a new issue
>> (attached screenshot).
>>
>> Also, one person sent the same message to the list 7 times today because
>> he never saw his message show up in the list / UI.
>>
>> Perhaps hyperkitty is not well-tested nor really used by others, in
>> which case we should not use it. There are many alternative forums,
>> including popular (although admittedly walled off) ones like reddit [
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/ovirt]
>>
>> Please share your thoughts.
>>
>
> Is there a way to integrate reddit wit existing mailing list?
> I agree hyperkitty proven itself not being enterprise/production ready
> and we need a better platform.
>
>
>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Greg
>>
>> --
>>
>> GREG SHEREMETA
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>
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>
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