Re: oVirt Forum Pilot

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/2012 12:46 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote: > Does anyone maybe have a link to the option in mailman that is > being talked about? Here is the Google Summer of Code project page: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/syst3mw0rm/31001 After reading up on the mockups behind that work, I wrote this summary post: http://iquaid.org/2012/05/14/mailing-list-web-interface-magic/ Thanks again for not only caring about this problem, but for being willing to help fix it. Do you want to work with me (and anyone else interested) on trying out the Mailman changes as they come live? We could put up a development environment that pulls in the nightly Mailman so we could try out features as they are developed, maybe even help make it all better. :) - - Karsten > Thanks :) > > Op 15 mei 2012, om 09:44 heeft Itamar Heim het volgende > geschreven: > >> On 05/15/2012 09:45 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote: >>> Anyone? >> >> I thought karsten summarized this nicely. >> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2012-May/000362.html >> >> i think the consensus was forum would be great, but would either >> need a two-way bridge to mailing list, or a pilot with someone >> acting as a liaison forwarding information between the forum and >> the mailing list. also, there is the possibility mailman will >> have this option built it later which is worth promoting / >> waiting for if will be available soon. >> >>> >>> I still really do feel like it would be a great addition for >>> the community. >>> >>> Op 11 mei 2012, om 14:43 heeft Barry Kostjens het volgende >>> geschreven: >>> >>>> Any more opinions on this? >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 10 mei 2012, om 09:06 heeft Barry Kostjens het volgende >>>> geschreven: >>>> >>>>> I have been searching for a gateway mod, but such thing >>>>> does not exits (at least, not for mybb). >>>>> >>>>> Also my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be really >>>>> usefull. One big downside of the mail system is that every >>>>> mail contains all quotes. So every post and reply on the >>>>> forum would contain the whole email message including the >>>>> quotes over and over again. >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest getting the forum up& running and use it >>>>> as a pilot. I really think that you will get a bigger >>>>> community, as visibility on the net ig greatly expanded >>>>> this way. >>>>> >>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 23:06 heeft Itamar Heim het volgende >>>>> geschreven: >>>>> >>>>>> On 05/09/2012 05:49 PM, Barry Kostjens wrote: >>>>>>> I was thinking about MyBB. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has a 'mysupport' mod that adds the 'thread answered >>>>>>> / solved' function, and it also lets you set a 'best >>>>>>> answer'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can have a look at it here: >>>>>>> http://mods.mybb.com/view/mysupport >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the only issue raised around this is "does it >>>>>> work two-way with emails"? >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 16:44 heeft Oved Ourfalli het >>>>>>> volgende geschreven: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Barry >>>>>>>>> Kostjens"<bkostjens(a)internetlimburg.nl> To: "Eli >>>>>>>>> Mesika"<emesika(a)redhat.com> Cc: infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:39:19 AM Subject: >>>>>>>>> Re: oVirt Forum Pilot >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any more opinions? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dunno how many people there are on this list? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the idea of a forum, with E-mail gateways. The >>>>>>>> problem with a forum is that we should make sure we >>>>>>>> poll it frequently, and provide fast answers, as >>>>>>>> people tend to be more patient on mailing lists as >>>>>>>> they are on forums. Also, some forums give you score >>>>>>>> and titles on participation and help you give other >>>>>>>> users, so this could also be a motivation for users >>>>>>>> to help one another. Some forums also give the >>>>>>>> ability to set threads as "answered", and what the >>>>>>>> answer is, and that's also important as you can >>>>>>>> sometimes get lost in the information on long E-mail >>>>>>>> threads. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Didn't get a chance to take a look at the >>>>>>>> implementation suggestions below, but IMO an option >>>>>>>> that gives the abilities mentioned above will be the >>>>>>>> winner :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oved >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012 om 17:20 heeft Eli >>>>>>>>> Mesika<emesika(a)redhat.com> het volgende >>>>>>>>> geschreven: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barry Kostjens"<bkostjens(a)ilimburg.nl> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Heiko W.Rupp"<hrupp(a)redhat.com> Cc: >>>>>>>>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 >>>>>>>>>>> 5:57:10 PM Subject: Re: oVirt Forum Pilot >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is what Doron said about it: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The thing is, it creates duplication. So people >>>>>>>>>>> wither use both the list and the forum, or >>>>>>>>>>> randomly selects one. Then you get people >>>>>>>>>>> trying to cross-reference the lists and the >>>>>>>>>>> forums... Now once we get into this state, >>>>>>>>>>> it'll be impossible to monitor the various >>>>>>>>>>> channels as I try to do today. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think that forum for this purpose is much >>>>>>>>>> friendly. +1 for a forum instead of the users >>>>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012, om 16:54 heeft Heiko W.Rupp het >>>>>>>>>>> volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.05.2012 um 16:32 schrieb Barry >>>>>>>>>>>> Kostjens: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a suggestion to Doron Fediuck for >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting up a ovirt forum pilot which might >>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecate the users list in the future. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not have both? A mailing list is perfect >>>>>>>>>>>> for offline usage and for (some) forums there >>>>>>>>>>>> exist bi-directional email gateways. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Infra mailing list Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Infra >>>>>>> mailing list Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > - -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41