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On 05/21/2012 12:15 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
Thanks for your reply.
I surely would like to help here. I can provide a linux server
(VM) that we can use to test the mailman / mybb combo.
Sounds great. (The caveat being, I don't see a specific situation of
Mailman plus MyBB being proposed. The Mailman work is all part of the
Mailman 3.0 release. Or are you using mybb as a reference for the
concept of a forum rather than a specific tool?)
Only thing needed (or not needed, but would be nice) is to have an
A record (fa
dev.ovirt.org) pointing to the ip address of the dev
server.
Agreed.
Let me know if this is acceptable and I'll setup the vm.
I don't see any problem in general with that idea so +1. Any other
thoughts from anyone else?
One thing we can chat about is to help with standards and security for
a few reasons. One is, many minds helps prevent cracked websites. :)
Another is, you can share the setup and maintenance burden with others.
Let us know what you think, and what IP address you've got so I can
start the DNS change request (Red Hat IT handles DNS for us right now.)
- - Karsten
On 05/15/2012 12:46 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>>> Does anyone maybe have a link to the option in mailman that
>>> is being talked about?
Here is the Google Summer of Code project page:
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/syst3mw0rm/31001
After reading up on the mockups behind that work, I wrote this
summary post:
http://iquaid.org/2012/05/14/mailing-list-web-interface-magic/
Thanks again for not only caring about this problem, but for being
willing to help fix it.
Do you want to work with me (and anyone else interested) on trying
out the Mailman changes as they come live? We could put up a
development environment that pulls in the nightly Mailman so we
could try out features as they are developed, maybe even help make
it all better. :)
- Karsten
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> Op 15 mei 2012, om 09:44 heeft Itamar Heim het volgende
>>> geschreven:
>>>
>>>> On 05/15/2012 09:45 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> I thought karsten summarized this nicely.
>>>>
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2012-May/000362.html
>>>>
>>>> i think the consensus was forum would be great, but would
>>>> either need a two-way bridge to mailing list, or a pilot
>>>> with someone acting as a liaison forwarding information
>>>> between the forum and the mailing list. also, there is the
>>>> possibility mailman will have this option built it later
>>>> which is worth promoting / waiting for if will be
>>>> available soon.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I still really do feel like it would be a great addition
>>>>> for the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 11 mei 2012, om 14:43 heeft Barry Kostjens het
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any more opinions on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 10 mei 2012, om 09:06 heeft Barry Kostjens het
>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been searching for a gateway mod, but such
>>>>>>> thing does not exits (at least, not for mybb).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be
>>>>>>> really usefull. One big downside of the mail system
>>>>>>> is that every mail contains all quotes. So every post
>>>>>>> and reply on the forum would contain the whole email
>>>>>>> message including the quotes over and over again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would suggest getting the forum up& running and
>>>>>>> use it as a pilot. I really think that you will get
>>>>>>> a bigger community, as visibility on the net ig
>>>>>>> greatly expanded this way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 23:06 heeft Itamar Heim het
>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05/09/2012 05:49 PM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I was thinking about MyBB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has a 'mysupport' mod that adds the
'thread
>>>>>>>>> answered / solved' function, and it also lets
>>>>>>>>> you set a 'best answer'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can have a look at it here:
>>>>>>>>>
http://mods.mybb.com/view/mysupport
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the only issue raised around this is "does
>>>>>>>> it work two-way with emails"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 16:44 heeft Oved Ourfalli het
>>>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>
Kostjens"<bkostjens(a)internetlimburg.nl> To:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Eli
Mesika"<emesika(a)redhat.com> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012
>>>>>>>>>>> 8:39:19 AM Subject: Re: oVirt Forum Pilot
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any more opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno how many people there are on this
>>>>>>>>>>> list?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I love the idea of a forum, with E-mail
>>>>>>>>>> gateways. The problem with a forum is that we
>>>>>>>>>> should make sure we poll it frequently, and
>>>>>>>>>> provide fast answers, as people tend to be more
>>>>>>>>>> patient on mailing lists as they are on forums.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, some forums give you score and titles on
>>>>>>>>>> participation and help you give other users, so
>>>>>>>>>> this could also be a motivation for users to
>>>>>>>>>> help one another. Some forums also give the
>>>>>>>>>> ability to set threads as "answered",
and what
>>>>>>>>>> the answer is, and that's also important as
you
>>>>>>>>>> can sometimes get lost in the information on
>>>>>>>>>> long E-mail threads.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Didn't get a chance to take a look at the
>>>>>>>>>> implementation suggestions below, but IMO an
>>>>>>>>>> option that gives the abilities mentioned
>>>>>>>>>> above will be the winner :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oved
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012 om 17:20 heeft Eli
>>>>>>>>>>> Mesika<emesika(a)redhat.com> het
volgende
>>>>>>>>>>> geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Kostjens"<bkostjens(a)ilimburg.nl> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Heiko
W.Rupp"<hrupp(a)redhat.com> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, May
8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 5:57:10 PM Subject: Re: oVirt
Forum
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pilot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what Doron said about it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is, it creates duplication.
So
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people wither use both the list and
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forum, or randomly selects one. Then
you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get people trying to cross-reference
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists and the forums... Now once we
get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into this state, it'll be
impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor the various channels as I try
to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that forum for this purpose is
much
>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly. +1 for a forum instead of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> users list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012, om 16:54 heeft Heiko
>>>>>>>>>>>>> W.Rupp het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.05.2012 um 16:32 schrieb
Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kostjens:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a suggestion to Doron
Fediuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for setting up a ovirt forum
pilot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which might deprecate the
users list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not have both? A mailing list
is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect for offline usage and
for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (some) forums there exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bi-directional email gateways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Infra mailing list Infra(a)ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS)
http://TheOpenSourceWay.org
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