-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Speak up if you disagree, but we could sure use a task tracker for the Infra team. One idea Mike suggested is, this Trac instance is gathering dust and available to take over (and re-customize): https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt We could start using this immediately, and switch in the future. It is Trac, I've had varied experience with it; I know how to admin it fairly well, and we can customize it to this team with minimal effort. (Nice to not have to invest too much in making a workflow.) My biggest concern right now would be running at a larger scale - what happens over time? What happens if other project teams want an integrated task tracker? (The latter would make project management and getting an organized release out the door easier.) I looked around at the current state of FOSS tools that are offered as a service, and didn't get too excited. http://www.hostedredmine.com/ https://ovirt-infra.teamlab.com I've also looked at teambox.com in the past, but their no-cost services are limited. (They also haven't released any timeline or roadmap about open sourcing the latest version, the older versions are FOSS; I haven't looked at what it would take to run the service ourselves.) There are several services that are FOSS and we could run ourselves, such as the above Trac and Redmine. I strongly urge us to avoid using services that are not FOSS. There are many competitive ones in the proprietary markets, and a few offer no-cost usage for open source projects. I get concerned about locking our data and workflows in to a particular vendor. I would rather pick the best-of FOSS and be a strong user to support more development on our choice. Unfortunately, this does limit our choices in what is offered as a service. - - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade ..... http://iquaid.org ..... gpg key: AD0E0C41 http://Fairy-TaleFarm.com .......................... Urban homestead http://MicahForCouncil.org ................ Your advocate on council http://SantaCruzPedicab.com .......... Sensible local transportation