[ovirt] #33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing -------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: -------------------------------+----------------------------- Suggestion from the below comment is to allow anonymous editing on www.ovirt.org, but use the FlaggedRevs extension to keep changes from going live before running through an editorial review. The suggestion was part of an overall idea to make the [edit] links differently visible to anonymous/not-logged-in users, something that would suggest or invite editing in a subtle way. Questions: * Can you easily allow a user to not be flagged? * Is it only used for Anonymous editing? * Is there a way to reach back to the Anonymous author if the editor has questions? (Cf. bug reporting that requires an email address so follow up is possible.) -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing ------------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------------------+------------------------------ Comment (by quaid): Forgot to link in the comment that contained the idea: https://github.com/OSAS/strapping-mediawiki/issues/1#issuecomment-12447722 -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33#comment:1> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing ------------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------------------+------------------------------ Comment (by waldir): Some preliminary notes: - here's the link to the FlaggedRevs extension: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs - an extra question from the thread linked above: is the revisions-to-be- checked queue is web-based by default, or does it issue an email to the editors group? If it doesn't, can it do so? -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33#comment:2> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing ------------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------------------+------------------------------ Comment (by waldir): Some preliminary answers: - Can you easily allow a user to not be flagged? - Yes, using the "autoreview" user group. Users from the "bureaucrats" user group can easily change user groups through the page Special:UserRights. - Is it only used for Anonymous editing? - No, any user without the "editor" or the "autoreview" rights will have their edits kept for moderation. However, it is fairly easy to configure the wiki so that any registered account gets the "autoreview" right by default, if that is desired. - Is there a way to reach back to the Anonymous author if the editor has questions? (Cf. bug reporting that requires an email address so follow up is possible.) - No, only users with registered accounts can have an email associated to it. Anonymous editors can be reached to their talk page but it is unlikely that they'll check it (though that's not unheard of), plus they won't get any email notification (but they can subscribe to the RSS feed of their user talk page history). As I see it, if an editor wants to be reachable, they will create an account. However, for small edits like fixing typos, it is quite understandable that they won't want to go through that hassle. In any case, the interface for moderating an edit allows a comment to be added which will be in the publicly available Special:Log/review page (granted, not the most easy-to-find location; ideally the comments should appear in the history log of the page itself, but it seems that doesn't happen currently) - Is the revisions-to-be-checked queue is web-based by default, or does it issue an email to the editors group? If it doesn't, can it do so? - The queue is web-based (Special:UnreviewedPages and Special:OldReviewedPages). I don't think there's email support, but both have RSS feeds that allow easy tracking. I can clarify any further details if desired. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33#comment:3> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing ------------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------------------+------------------------------ Comment (by quaid): OK, that sounds like useful features that we can deal with the shortcomings. Perhaps we can work on email notifications the way @dneary did for the account requests extension. Just so I'm clear, is your motivation to have this extension as a feature on the ovirt.org wiki or just in general available for Strapping-based installs? For oVirt, I think I'm +1 at this point - anything to lower the barrier to editing without creating a spam problem is good. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33#comment:4> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
#33: Use FlaggedRevs to open the wiki to anonymous editing ------------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: quaid | Owner: infra@… Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Handwavy Future Component: wiki (MediaWiki) | Version: Test Severity: Trivial | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------------------+------------------------------ Comment (by waldir): I commend any organization's progress towards opening up venues for broader participation and collaboration; I don't have otherwise personal interest in having ovirt.org adopt this setup (besides perhaps the fact that it will serve as an example for other organizations with wikis that aren't publicly editable), but nevertheless I'm happy to help make it happen. I do believe that the Strapping skin can benefit from a development approach that takes into account mediawiki's editing tools and interface elements (so that both open and restricted wikis can benefit from the skin without any shortcomings that may advent from details that are overlooked by the skin's developers). This is my main motivation to push this change forward. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help out. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33#comment:5> ovirt <http://www.ovirt.org/> oVirt - virtualization made easy.
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