-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically: * WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, when/if they become possible/available. The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts of the infrastructure. What are some other reasons this is a good idea? What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on this mailing list. - - Karsten [1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP+2AQ2ZIOBq0ODEERAso9AKDV+NrEJjWFNd7WEuGDBLnUHR9mGQCeIVwY oJfX35xtJZdb9nTgnusZfAY= =eCES -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically:
* WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these will run.
In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, when/if they become possible/available.
The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts of the infrastructure. I manage many of my internal system using git. It works well as long as you aren't updating the system from other sources at the same time.
What are some other reasons this is a good idea? The git part is very powerful. It makes management task much easier.
What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? One possible issue is cost. The other question is what limits are there to using the wordpress or mediawiki this way. Since I have never used
On 07/09/2012 06:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: the platform not sure what these limits are.
We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on this mailing list.
- - Karsten
[1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41
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On 07/09/2012 09:10 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/09/2012 06:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically:
* WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these will run. One concern is the fact that we will need a plan to move www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org
Thanks Robert
In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, when/if they become possible/available.
The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts of the infrastructure.
I manage many of my internal system using git. It works well as long as you aren't updating the system from other sources at the same time.
What are some other reasons this is a good idea?
The git part is very powerful. It makes management task much easier.
What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea?
One possible issue is cost. The other question is what limits are there to using the wordpress or mediawiki this way. Since I have never used the platform not sure what these limits are.
We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on this mailing list.
- - Karsten
[1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2012 09:04 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/09/2012 09:10 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these will run.
It has a model similar to other platform services (PaaS): 1. Creating an app starts a local git repo 2. Drop code (e.g. MediaWiki + configurations) in to the git repo directory 3. Commit and push changes 4. Live app is updated We can then take the git repo, host it for ourselves at gerrit.ovirt.org, and call that the canonical. Then other people can assist Infra through patches or pull requests directly in Gerrit. One of the Infra folks makes changes by pulling the latest from Gerrit and pushing it up to the app. Where the configuration includes passwords, we may have to get clever. One idea is to use variables that are replaced with a bash(?) script. Anyone on Infra would have access to the variables file (in private git on the various servers), and would run the script to replace the variables before pushing to OpenShift. (I have no idea if this design would work, but something would.)
One concern is the fact that we will need a plan to move www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org
I'm presuming we can protect the existing inbound links from going to 404 by using clever mod_rewrite/mod_redirect? - - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/aVF2ZIOBq0ODEERAurVAJ0VWoQqZzS7a6vdG6Cd8Cwcg92TSgCgkNAn KZgoVRbQF8NaJR0Oa5ZrOKM= =I+lZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/10/2012 01:49 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically:
* WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2]
In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, when/if they become possible/available.
I tried using openshift for jenkins before we started with EC2. not sure where it is now, but suggest giving it some time before re-trying, as we use jenkins extensively, while openshift jenkins is more tailored for the code you bring into openshift wrt scale. (we are suffering from EC2 performance as well becasue of this, and didn't even enable the amount of CI we are used to). btw, if you try to create an openshift account for ovirt and fail, ping me to look up if that was the account i created to pass to you.
The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts of the infrastructure.
What are some other reasons this is a good idea?
What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea?
We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on this mailing list.
- - Karsten
[1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41
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