Re: [ovirt-devel] New design for the Gerrit UI
It looks great to me, except for one issue. The contrast between the box around the active item on the second row and the header background color is too low to make the active item easily identifiable. The same goes for the box on the first row, but the underline makes it a non-issue. I recommend either adding an underline to the second row active item or selecting a better background color for it. -Phillip Bailey On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Eldan Hildesheim <info@eldanet.com> wrote:
Hi, Can we insert a new css package easily? Perhaps I can merge Patternfly inside which will be very suitable for this case. E.
On May 7, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
The footer links are useful but the footer itself has no presence. Most dashboards will fill a page and with such a thin footer nobody is going to look at what is has to offer. So we can make the footer in a different color and noticeable etc or move the links to the header.
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:35 AM Barak Korren <bkorren@redhat.com> wrote:
The current scheme seems a little buggy on FF. See how the top green bar is not stretched to cover the top of the oVirt logo.
On 6 May 2017 at 12:49, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com> wrote:
Here's my take.
The line on the top is a little thicker than I like, but we have the same thickness in oVirt (I checked). I'm ok with shrinking it in both places.
I put in the logo from the oVirt login page. I added patternfly and bootstrap. Changed the font to OpenSans. Positioned things and fixed paddings. Changed the button and form field to patternfly type (blue button)
Looks very good now. I wonder how far are we from being ADA compliant (also a general question to our UI - I know Patternfly should help us there as well). Y.
Best wishes, Greg
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
Adding UX people +Eldan Hildesheim <info@eldanet.com> +Alexander Wels <awels@redhat.com> +Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com>
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:32 AM Martin Perina <mperina@redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wr ote:
> > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:26 PM Evgheni Dereveanchin < > ederevea@redhat.com> wrote: > >> Thanks everyone for the great feedback! >> >> So there's two options I see now: >> 1) keep the default header scheme with white background, just add >> the project logo into the corner >> 2) try to adapt to the Patternfly scheme as used in oVirt's Admin >> UI currently. >> >> I've swapped the header background color to #393f45 as used in >> oVirt for a quick test: >> https://gerrit-staging.phx.ovirt.org/ >> > > Looks good! >
Much better for my eyes now, thanks a lot!
> > The oVirt logo needs little more space around it, and it also should > be centered vertically. > Modifying the logo margin to 8px and width to 108px works for me > using chrome, > see attached screenshot. > > <Screenshot from 2017-05-04 20-11-39.png> > > Nir > > Is this more readable? If yes - I can continue working in this >> direction to add gradients >> and other patternfly style elements. >> > Otherwise I'll just go with option 1 and stick to the default style >> we have now. >> >> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> >> wrote: >> >>> > It will help if someone can suggest an alternate CSS which we >>> can use or specific color codes, >>> >>> Well.. keep it as it is or make it really dark (like the >>> patternfly menu). I do not care about logos but big area filled with >>> non-neutral color is always going to be an issue. >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Eyal Edri <eedri@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Martin Perina <mperina@redhat.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with Milan and Martin, even after few minutes looking at >>>>> it, the green >>>>> with combination of white background just made my eyes burning >>>>> :-( >>>>> >>>>> Would it be possible to use more darker colors (at least for top >>>>> banner/menu)? >>>>> For example darker colors we use in oVirt engine welcome page ... >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the feedback, >>>> It will help if someone can suggest an alternate CSS which we can >>>> use or specific color codes, >>>> otherwise it will be long trial and error process until we'll >>>> find something that will suite everyone. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Milan here. The light green background makes the >>>>>> menu >>>>>> items to be almost unreadable, the search button (slightly >>>>>> different >>>>>> green color) blends with the background and generally the color >>>>>> pulls >>>>>> my eyes away from the content. I wouldn't feel comfortable >>>>>> looking at >>>>>> the screen for a whole day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Milan Zamazal < >>>>>> mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>>> > Evgheni Dereveanchin <ederevea@redhat.com> writes: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> The Infra team is working on customizing the look of Gerrit >>>>>> to make it fit >>>>>> >> better with other oVirt services. I want to share the result >>>>>> of this >>>>>> >> effort. Hopefully we can gather some feedback before >>>>>> applying the design to >>>>>> >> oVirt's instance of Gerrit. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Please visit the Staging instance to check it out: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> https://gerrit-staging.phx.ovirt.org/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thank you for the preview. While it fits better with oVirt >>>>>> services, >>>>>> > there is one thing that makes me uncomfortable with it: low >>>>>> contrast. >>>>>> > The top green bar is probably directly violating Web >>>>>> Accessibility >>>>>> > Guidelines (AA level; see >>>>>> > https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast), >>>>>> but I >>>>>> > find all the green parts harder to read than in the current >>>>>> version. >>>>>> > So it would be nice if the contrast could be improved. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>> > Milan >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Devel mailing list >>>>>> > Devel@ovirt.org >>>>>> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Devel mailing list >>>>>> Devel@ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>> Infra@ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> EYAL EDRI >>>> >>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER >>>> >>>> RHV DEVOPS >>>> >>>> EMEA VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>>> >>>> >>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>> <https://red.ht/sig> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. >>>> <https://redhat.com/trusted> >>>> phone: +972-9-7692018 <+972%209-769-2018> >>>> irc: eedri (on #tlv #rhev-dev #rhev-integ) >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Evgheni Dereveanchin >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> > > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ Infra mailing list Infra@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra
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Hi, it looks nice. Is there any plan * to actually deploy this skin on gerrit.ovirt.org? * skin new gerrit UI (PolyGerrit) as well? * use blue theme as webadmin recently adopted and VM Portal is going to adopt? Thanks Jakub On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Phillip Bailey <phbailey@redhat.com> wrote:
It looks great to me, except for one issue. The contrast between the box around the active item on the second row and the header background color is too low to make the active item easily identifiable. The same goes for the box on the first row, but the underline makes it a non-issue. I recommend either adding an underline to the second row active item or selecting a better background color for it.
-Phillip Bailey
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Eldan Hildesheim <info@eldanet.com> wrote:
Hi, Can we insert a new css package easily? Perhaps I can merge Patternfly inside which will be very suitable for this case. E.
On May 7, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
The footer links are useful but the footer itself has no presence. Most dashboards will fill a page and with such a thin footer nobody is going to look at what is has to offer. So we can make the footer in a different color and noticeable etc or move the links to the header.
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:35 AM Barak Korren <bkorren@redhat.com> wrote:
The current scheme seems a little buggy on FF. See how the top green bar is not stretched to cover the top of the oVirt logo.
On 6 May 2017 at 12:49, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com> wrote:
Here's my take.
The line on the top is a little thicker than I like, but we have the same thickness in oVirt (I checked). I'm ok with shrinking it in both places.
I put in the logo from the oVirt login page. I added patternfly and bootstrap. Changed the font to OpenSans. Positioned things and fixed paddings. Changed the button and form field to patternfly type (blue button)
Looks very good now. I wonder how far are we from being ADA compliant (also a general question to our UI - I know Patternfly should help us there as well). Y.
Best wishes, Greg
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
Adding UX people +Eldan Hildesheim <info@eldanet.com> +Alexander Wels <awels@redhat.com> +Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com>
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:32 AM Martin Perina <mperina@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wr > ote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:26 PM Evgheni Dereveanchin < >> ederevea@redhat.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks everyone for the great feedback! >>> >>> So there's two options I see now: >>> 1) keep the default header scheme with white background, just add >>> the project logo into the corner >>> 2) try to adapt to the Patternfly scheme as used in oVirt's Admin >>> UI currently. >>> >>> I've swapped the header background color to #393f45 as used in >>> oVirt for a quick test: >>> https://gerrit-staging.phx.ovirt.org/ >>> >> >> Looks good! >> > > Much better for my eyes now, thanks a lot! > > > >> >> The oVirt logo needs little more space around it, and it also >> should be centered vertically. >> Modifying the logo margin to 8px and width to 108px works for me >> using chrome, >> see attached screenshot. >> >> <Screenshot from 2017-05-04 20-11-39.png> >> >> Nir >> >> Is this more readable? If yes - I can continue working in this >>> direction to add gradients >>> and other patternfly style elements. >>> >> Otherwise I'll just go with option 1 and stick to the default style >>> we have now. >>> >>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> > It will help if someone can suggest an alternate CSS which we >>>> can use or specific color codes, >>>> >>>> Well.. keep it as it is or make it really dark (like the >>>> patternfly menu). I do not care about logos but big area filled with >>>> non-neutral color is always going to be an issue. >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Eyal Edri <eedri@redhat.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Martin Perina < >>>>> mperina@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Milan and Martin, even after few minutes looking >>>>>> at it, the green >>>>>> with combination of white background just made my eyes burning >>>>>> :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> Would it be possible to use more darker colors (at least for >>>>>> top banner/menu)? >>>>>> For example darker colors we use in oVirt engine welcome page >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the feedback, >>>>> It will help if someone can suggest an alternate CSS which we >>>>> can use or specific color codes, >>>>> otherwise it will be long trial and error process until we'll >>>>> find something that will suite everyone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Milan here. The light green background makes the >>>>>>> menu >>>>>>> items to be almost unreadable, the search button (slightly >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> green color) blends with the background and generally the >>>>>>> color pulls >>>>>>> my eyes away from the content. I wouldn't feel comfortable >>>>>>> looking at >>>>>>> the screen for a whole day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Milan Zamazal < >>>>>>> mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > Evgheni Dereveanchin <ederevea@redhat.com> writes: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> The Infra team is working on customizing the look of Gerrit >>>>>>> to make it fit >>>>>>> >> better with other oVirt services. I want to share the >>>>>>> result of this >>>>>>> >> effort. Hopefully we can gather some feedback before >>>>>>> applying the design to >>>>>>> >> oVirt's instance of Gerrit. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Please visit the Staging instance to check it out: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> https://gerrit-staging.phx.ovirt.org/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Thank you for the preview. While it fits better with oVirt >>>>>>> services, >>>>>>> > there is one thing that makes me uncomfortable with it: low >>>>>>> contrast. >>>>>>> > The top green bar is probably directly violating Web >>>>>>> Accessibility >>>>>>> > Guidelines (AA level; see >>>>>>> > https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast), >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> > find all the green parts harder to read than in the current >>>>>>> version. >>>>>>> > So it would be nice if the contrast could be improved. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>> > Milan >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > Devel mailing list >>>>>>> > Devel@ovirt.org >>>>>>> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Devel mailing list >>>>>>> Devel@ovirt.org >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>>> Infra@ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> EYAL EDRI >>>>> >>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER >>>>> >>>>> RHV DEVOPS >>>>> >>>>> EMEA VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>>> <https://red.ht/sig> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. >>>>> <https://redhat.com/trusted> >>>>> phone: +972-9-7692018 <+972%209-769-2018> >>>>> irc: eedri (on #tlv #rhev-dev #rhev-integ) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Devel mailing list >>>> Devel@ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Evgheni Dereveanchin >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >
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On 5 September 2017 at 21:37, Jakub Niedermertl <jniederm@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
it looks nice.
Is there any plan * to actually deploy this skin on gerrit.ovirt.org?
Given the huge amount of time that was already invested in this, and the endless list of issues raised on this thread, we froze further progress. It would be great if someone with better UX skills could step up and continue this work. (Which includes actually writing the needed CSS and HTML and not just sending mockups...)
* skin new gerrit UI (PolyGerrit) as well?
It a completely new code base, we will need to redo everything from scratch. But we probably aught to do that, because it seems like the way forward for Gerrit.
* use blue theme as webadmin recently adopted and VM Portal is going to adopt?
IMO it would look out of place with the other oVirt web assets. Personally I don't like WebAdmin going that way either. oVirt had always been green, its part of its brand. To change this, everything else needs to also change: ovirt.org, Jenkins, Jira, etc. -- Barak Korren RHV DevOps team , RHCE, RHCi Red Hat EMEA redhat.com | TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. | redhat.com/trusted
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Barak Korren <bkorren@redhat.com> wrote:
On 5 September 2017 at 21:37, Jakub Niedermertl <jniederm@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
it looks nice.
Is there any plan * to actually deploy this skin on gerrit.ovirt.org?
Given the huge amount of time that was already invested in this, and the endless list of issues raised on this thread, we froze further progress.
It would be great if someone with better UX skills could step up and continue this work. (Which includes actually writing the needed CSS and HTML and not just sending mockups...)
I can do it. But ...
* skin new gerrit UI (PolyGerrit) as well?
It a completely new code base, we will need to redo everything from scratch. But we probably aught to do that, because it seems like the way forward for Gerrit.
Shouldn't we just cut over and do the work once?
* use blue theme as webadmin recently adopted and VM Portal is going to adopt?
IMO it would look out of place with the other oVirt web assets. Personally I don't like WebAdmin going that way either. oVirt had always been green, its part of its brand. To change this, everything else needs to also change: ovirt.org, Jenkins, Jira, etc.
-- Barak Korren RHV DevOps team , RHCE, RHCi Red Hat EMEA redhat.com | TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. | redhat.com/trusted _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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On 6 September 2017 at 17:17, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com> wrote:
I can do it. But ...
It a completely new code base, we will need to redo everything from scratch. But we probably aught to do that, because it seems like the way forward for Gerrit.
Shouldn't we just cut over and do the work once?
The new UI does not cover 100% of functionality yet, but yeah, I suppose we can focus all efforts on the new UI since this is what I expect most developers will be using given that it does cover pretty much everything developers use on a day-to-day basis. -- Barak Korren RHV DevOps team , RHCE, RHCi Red Hat EMEA redhat.com | TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. | redhat.com/trusted
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Barak Korren <bkorren@redhat.com> wrote:
On 5 September 2017 at 21:37, Jakub Niedermertl <jniederm@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
it looks nice.
Is there any plan * to actually deploy this skin on gerrit.ovirt.org?
Given the huge amount of time that was already invested in this, and the endless list of issues raised on this thread, we froze further progress.
It would be great if someone with better UX skills could step up and continue this work. (Which includes actually writing the needed CSS and HTML and not just sending mockups...)
I can do it. But ...
* skin new gerrit UI (PolyGerrit) as well?
It a completely new code base, we will need to redo everything from scratch. But we probably aught to do that, because it seems like the way forward for Gerrit.
Shouldn't we just cut over and do the work once?
+1
* use blue theme as webadmin recently adopted and VM Portal is going to adopt?
IMO it would look out of place with the other oVirt web assets. Personally I don't like WebAdmin going that way either. oVirt had always been green, its part of its brand. To change this, everything else needs to also change: ovirt.org, Jenkins, Jira, etc.
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