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This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to design our
new hosting.
Presuming the following:
* 2 servers at AlterWay
* 2 servers at RackSpace
* Both bare metal
* Each machine with 4 to 8 cores, 8 to 16 GB
How do we want to layout services, interactions, backup, etc.?
Ideas/points:
* Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full Linode
* On top of the base OS, how many VMs do we want?
** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we want
that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire box? Figuring
no ...
*** Gerrit gets 50% of resources in one VM
*** Remaining resources go to host OS and 1 to 4 VMs(?)
**** Mailman goes on one of those remaining VMs
* Do we need a separate database?
** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use a db?
** We could have a VM running a db on a private network ...
We talked in IRC about having one or more hacking sprints to do Infra
work over the coming holiday breaks:
* 26th
* 29th
* 30th
Any of those work for people? Other suggestions?
Cheers - Karsten
--=20
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth
http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
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12:37 p.m.
Hi,
On 12/19/2012 08:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to design
our
new hosting.
Presuming the following:
* 2 servers at AlterWay
For Alterway, we have one hardware server, and can request VMs. So I'm
assuming that "2 servers" here means 1 hardware server, and 1 VM?
Ideas/points:
* Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full Linode
what services are running on linode now?
I only know of Mailman, an apache for downloads. Are there other
services we need to host elsewhere? Database server, perhaps?
** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
That was what we requested, and that's the current plan.
** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we want
that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire box? Figuring
no ...
I'm not sure if we have a second dedicated host - would need to confirm
that with Kévin.
My understanding is that Mailman would be running in a VM, Gerrit could
run in a VM, and we would potentially have a number of Jenkins slave VMs.
* Do we need a separate database?
** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use a db?
Gerrit definitely does. Where is the MediaWiki database running right
now - on OpenShift? On the main www host, or on a separate gear?
Thanks!
Dave.
--
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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
1:22 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade"
<kwade(a)redhat.com>
To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:49:29 PM
Subject: New hosting design
This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to design
our
new hosting.
Presuming the following:
* 2 servers at AlterWay
* 2 servers at RackSpace
* Both bare metal
* Each machine with 4 to 8 cores, 8 to 16 GB
How do we want to layout services, interactions, backup, etc.?
Ideas/points:
* Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full
Linode
* On top of the base OS, how many VMs do we want?
** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
we're forgetting jenkins slaves, we'll want to create a few vms with various
OS (f17,f18,rhel63,rhel64...)
best practise is not to run any jobs on the master node, but i assume we can run some
maven jobs
on it until we'll set up more slaves.
btw, are we going to use the existing amazon vms as slaves for the new jenkins master?
at least for starts?
** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we want
that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire box?
Figuring
no ...
*** Gerrit gets 50% of resources in one VM
*** Remaining resources go to host OS and 1 to 4 VMs(?)
**** Mailman goes on one of those remaining VMs
* Do we need a separate database?
** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use a db?
jenkins no - uses only local xml files
gerrit - yes (git + db)
** We could have a VM running a db on a private network ...
We talked in IRC about having one or more hacking sprints to do Infra
work over the coming holiday breaks:
* 26th
* 29th
* 30th
Any of those work for people? Other suggestions?
Cheers - Karsten
--
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth
http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
@quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
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1:35 p.m.
Hi
I provide 2 bare metal servers, and add some VMs.
Kevin
2012/12/20 Eyal Edri <eedri(a)redhat.com>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com>
> To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:49:29 PM
> Subject: New hosting design
>
> This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to design
> our
> new hosting.
>
> Presuming the following:
>
> * 2 servers at AlterWay
> * 2 servers at RackSpace
> * Both bare metal
> * Each machine with 4 to 8 cores, 8 to 16 GB
>
> How do we want to layout services, interactions, backup, etc.?
>
> Ideas/points:
>
> * Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full
> Linode
> * On top of the base OS, how many VMs do we want?
> ** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
we're forgetting jenkins slaves, we'll want to create a few vms with
various
OS (f17,f18,rhel63,rhel64...)
best practise is not to run any jobs on the master node, but i assume we
can run some maven jobs
on it until we'll set up more slaves.
btw, are we going to use the existing amazon vms as slaves for the new
jenkins master?
at least for starts?
> ** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we want
> that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire box?
> Figuring
> no ...
> *** Gerrit gets 50% of resources in one VM
> *** Remaining resources go to host OS and 1 to 4 VMs(?)
> **** Mailman goes on one of those remaining VMs
> * Do we need a separate database?
> ** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use a db?
jenkins no - uses only local xml files
gerrit - yes (git + db)
> ** We could have a VM running a db on a private network ...
>
> We talked in IRC about having one or more hacking sprints to do Infra
> work over the coming holiday breaks:
>
> * 26th
> * 29th
> * 30th
>
> Any of those work for people? Other suggestions?
>
> Cheers - Karsten
> --
> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth
> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Infra mailing list
> Infra(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra
>
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Responsable Infrastructure
Alter Way – Hosting
1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline
92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex
Tél : +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41
Mob : +33 (0)7 62 55 57 05
http://www.alterway.fr
9:37 p.m.
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On 12/20/2012 03:37 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
=20
On 12/19/2012 08:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to
> design our new hosting.
>=20
> Presuming the following:
>=20
> * 2 servers at AlterWay
=20
For Alterway, we have one hardware server, and can request VMs. So
I'm assuming that "2 servers" here means 1 hardware server, and 1
VM?
OK, no worries about the final configuration, but I'm fairly sure that
it was two physical hosts (and that you keep remembering it as 1 host
and 1 VM.) Ultimately, we only need one bare metal server AIUI for
Jenkins, and we can use several VMs.
> Ideas/points:
>=20
> * Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full
> Linode
=20
what services are running on linode now?
=20
I only know of Mailman, an apache for downloads. Are there other=20
services we need to host elsewhere? Database server, perhaps?
It sounds like we will need a database, and should consolidate. We ran
MySQL on the Linode, but we're using OpenShift for that now.
* IRC Bot
* Apache redirects
* Apache for resources.ovirt.org
* Mailman
* Backups
=20
> ** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes
> ...
=20
That was what we requested, and that's the current plan.
=20
> ** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we
> want that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire
> box? Figuring no ...
=20
I'm not sure if we have a second dedicated host - would need to
confirm that with K=E9vin.
=20
My understanding is that Mailman would be running in a VM, Gerrit
could run in a VM, and we would potentially have a number of Jenkins
slave VMs.
Yes, that's fine; and the VMs could be part of their oVirt cloud or
whatever.
> * Do we need a separate database? ** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use
a
> db?
=20
Gerrit definitely does. Where is the MediaWiki database running
right now - on OpenShift? On the main www host, or on a separate
gear?
I think a separate gear, that's how OpenShift works AIUI.
I'm not sure we want to move the MediaWiki database to a different data
center than where MW runs, but it sounds as if it would be a good idea
to put a database on a private VLAN address for Gerrit to use.
- Karsten
--=20
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http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
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9:39 p.m.
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On 12/20/2012 04:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote:
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com> To:
"infra"
> <infra(a)ovirt.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:49:29 PM=20
> Subject: New hosting design
>=20
> This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to
> design our new hosting.
>=20
> Presuming the following:
>=20
> * 2 servers at AlterWay * 2 servers at RackSpace * Both bare metal=20
> * Each machine with 4 to 8 cores, 8 to 16 GB
>=20
> How do we want to layout services, interactions, backup, etc.?
>=20
> Ideas/points:
>=20
> * Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full=20
> Linode * On top of the base OS, how many VMs do we want? ** Does
> Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
=20
we're forgetting jenkins slaves, we'll want to create a few vms with
various OS (f17,f18,rhel63,rhel64...)
=20
best practise is not to run any jobs on the master node, but i assume
we can run some maven jobs on it until we'll set up more slaves.
=20
btw, are we going to use the existing amazon vms as slaves for the
new jenkins master? at least for starts?
I think we'll have to, but we'll be following up with two servers at
RackSpace we can slice up in to multiple VMs & Jenkins are first in line
for using those VMs.
- Karsten
--=20
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http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
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10:29 p.m.
On 12/20/2012 02:22 PM, Eyal Edri wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com>
> To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:49:29 PM
> Subject: New hosting design
>
> This email is to kick-off the discussion about how we want to design
> our
> new hosting.
>
> Presuming the following:
>
> * 2 servers at AlterWay
> * 2 servers at RackSpace
> * Both bare metal
> * Each machine with 4 to 8 cores, 8 to 16 GB
>
> How do we want to layout services, interactions, backup, etc.?
>
> Ideas/points:
>
> * Migrate Mailman first - easy, crucial, gets jammed up on full
> Linode
> * On top of the base OS, how many VMs do we want?
> ** Does Jenkins master want to own the entire box? Figuring yes ...
we're forgetting jenkins slaves, we'll want to create a few vms with various
OS (f17,f18,rhel63,rhel64...)
best practise is not to run any jobs on the master node, but i assume we can run some
maven jobs
on it until we'll set up more slaves.
btw, are we going to use the existing amazon vms as slaves for the new jenkins master?
at least for starts?
you can continue using them for now, but i'd like to shut them down.
the priority should be to move jenkins of EC2.
gerrit is 2nd priority - it is behaving nicely lately performance wise.
> ** Second host, which could be running Gerrit eventually, do we want
> that partitioned in to VMs? Or does Gerrit want the entire box?
> Figuring
> no ...
> *** Gerrit gets 50% of resources in one VM
> *** Remaining resources go to host OS and 1 to 4 VMs(?)
> **** Mailman goes on one of those remaining VMs
> * Do we need a separate database?
> ** Does Jenkins or Gerrit use a db?
jenkins no - uses only local xml files
gerrit - yes (git + db)
> ** We could have a VM running a db on a private network ...
>
> We talked in IRC about having one or more hacking sprints to do Infra
> work over the coming holiday breaks:
>
> * 26th
> * 29th
> * 30th
>
> Any of those work for people? Other suggestions?
>
> Cheers - Karsten
> --
> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth
> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com
> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Infra mailing list
> Infra(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra
>
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4:55 p.m.
Hi,
On 12/20/2012 09:37 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
On 12/20/2012 03:37 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
>> * 2 servers at AlterWay
>
> For Alterway, we have one hardware server, and can request VMs. So
> I'm assuming that "2 servers" here means 1 hardware server, and 1
> VM?
OK, no worries about the final configuration, but I'm fairly sure that
it was two physical hosts (and that you keep remembering it as 1 host
and 1 VM.) Ultimately, we only need one bare metal server AIUI for
Jenkins, and we can use several VMs.
I remembered it as 1 bare metal and N VMs (Kevin's just confirmed that
you're correct, and my memory continues to play tricks on me). Thanks
for the correction.
I'm not sure we want to move the MediaWiki database to a
different data
center than where MW runs, but it sounds as if it would be a good idea
to put a database on a private VLAN address for Gerrit to use.
Makes sense to add a separate database rather than trying to shoe-horn
everything into one database.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
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