This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2JXWLCLUJONVRUUEDJOUN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A topic came up in the upstream to our MediaWiki theme. I'm wondering if anyone is interested in implementing this in our OpenShift instance, particularly any of the apprentice-Infra folk looking to do more work? (This could even be implemented in a complete clone of our wiki using your own OpenShift account, so if you are a new person looking to get involved, you can do this task without having to get special permissions; we'll just check and pull in your work.) https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/33 The reporter was requesting we remove the step in the documentation that specifies turning off anonymous editing, or at least make it optional (which it now is.) https://github.com/OSAS/strapping-mediawiki/issues/1 We explained that we had two design goals for the website that caused us to turn off anonymous editing: 1. Not having it look like "yet another wiki" with annoying [edit] links everywhere. 2. Raise an effective barrier against creation of spam pages when we don't have a hugely active wiki-watching crew. This of course conflicted with a primary design goal for any free/open source project, "lower the barriers to entry"[0]. For goal 1, one suggestion was to change the link to something more subtle, such as a partially-gray "suggest changes". (I might like to see just one of those per page, rather than one per section.) For goal 2, we discussed implementing an extension that puts anonymous changes in a queue for moderators to review and approve, called FlaggedRevs (flagged revisions.) This lets us put even new author accounts in FlaggedRevs, and any Bureaucrat can change the person to not have flagged revisions, if we wish. (If we want to keep things the way they are, we can have any approved user account granted autoreview privileges.) Adding this extension, we could allow for anonymous edits with the revision flagged for review, while still taking new user accounts via the existing account approval extension. Those new users (and any created by an existing user as per the usual steps[1]) could have the autoreview flag so they can write without being queued for moderation. [1] http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_create_a_user_account What do you think of this idea? Any objections? Anyone interested in working on the implementation? - Karsten [0] https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Stuff_everyone_knows_and_forgets_an= yway#Strive_to_drive_barriers_as_low_as_possible --=20 Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 ------enig2JXWLCLUJONVRUUEDJOUN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iD8DBQFRHXZP2ZIOBq0ODEERAqTQAKDZBC4TLBao/Tg3ldGbJxy2WPpVlgCgsjza vI1LRabUV4ToXIrcmAa9HII= =eFyo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2JXWLCLUJONVRUUEDJOUN--
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 03:42:07PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
[proposal to allow anonymous editing]
What do you think of this idea? Any objections?
I'm very much in favor of opening up our wiki. I wouldn't know what the best way is, but currently we have a very closed wiki which doesn't invite people to contribute. The login / create account is at the bottom which makes it a bigger effort than needed to fix simple typos or improve our documentation.
Hi, On 02/15/2013 12:42 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
A topic came up in the upstream to our MediaWiki theme. I'm wondering if anyone is interested in implementing this in our OpenShift instance, particularly any of the apprentice-Infra folk looking to do more work?
(This could even be implemented in a complete clone of our wiki using your own OpenShift account, so if you are a new person looking to get involved, you can do this task without having to get special permissions; we'll just check and pull in your work.)
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For goal 2, we discussed implementing an extension that puts anonymous changes in a queue for moderators to review and approve, called FlaggedRevs (flagged revisions.) This lets us put even new author accounts in FlaggedRevs, and any Bureaucrat can change the person to not have flagged revisions, if we wish. (If we want to keep things the way they are, we can have any approved user account granted autoreview privileges.)
Adding this extension, we could allow for anonymous edits with the revision flagged for review, while still taking new user accounts via the existing account approval extension. Those new users (and any created by an existing user as per the usual steps[1]) could have the autoreview flag so they can write without being queued for moderation.
I definitely approve of this getting done - unfortunately I have no time to work on it personally in the near future (at least 3-4 weeks). Also, I'm not sure why, but email notifications are not working for account requests for the wiki right now - I've been checking every day since discovering a queue with 12 people in it after the test day but I'd prefer this to be more interrupt-driven. Do you know if we have all the necessary PHP modules and configuration in place for email notifications on OpenShift? Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2OIALFDBBIQPHWOIERRUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/15/2013 02:16 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
Also, I'm not sure why, but email notifications are not working for account requests for the wiki right now - I've been checking every day since discovering a queue with 12 people in it after the test day but I'd prefer this to be more interrupt-driven. Do you know if we have all=
the necessary PHP modules and configuration in place for email notifications on OpenShift?
I thought we did but don't know; I'd have to research from scratch for it= =2E --=20 Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 ------enig2OIALFDBBIQPHWOIERRUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iD8DBQFRIk0Z2ZIOBq0ODEERAlVTAKDk/OeC40VBMdzbUvin84s3SMB3hQCfTJmL chjZxJLrcnENq4gqnu/Xqqk= =Hpst -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2OIALFDBBIQPHWOIERRUI--
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