-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project. You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: * Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :) Thanks - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBF0U2ZIOBq0ODEERAtc8AJ92WVcuHPwLfzKdr3rm2BmhSFuO7QCdEbsD 9OxdnzGN5qS8cptPFPBR/Jk= =/I2H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:27:33AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
I would be interested in becoming an Infra maintainer. Specifically my focus would be on getting puppet going. I have a small PoC which I'd like to expand. Then we have to figure out how much we have to hide and can show. With the preference on showing.
On 07/16/2012 09:27 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer.
We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :)
Please don't make it sound like boot-camp ;) , I imagine I can start being involved more on infra work on the front stage as well. no pressure on my side - take the time to decide.
Thanks - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
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From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade@redhat.com> To: "infra" <infra@ovirt.org> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:33 PM Subject: Maintainers list
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I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability.
Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an infra maintainer?
But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer.
We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :)
Thanks - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
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On 07/16/2012 03:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote:
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From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade@redhat.com> To: "infra" <infra@ovirt.org> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:33 PM Subject: Maintainers list
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I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an infra maintainer?
That is a good question something I bet no one has sat down and though about. My personal view is you should make a commitment to attending the weekly meeting outside of that I haven't seen any hard requirements other then helping out and make sure everything runs well. At some point we are going to need to define the role more clearly but as of right now it is pretty vague. Thanks Robert
But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer.
We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :)
Thanks - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2012 12:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote:
Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an infra maintainer?
About meaning: * http://www.ovirt.org/governance/becoming-a-maintainer/ * The Infra team has a growing pool of resources that maintainers get to use to learn new skills and hone existing skills. * If you want to learn professional-level sysadmin practices, and possibly mentor others in the practices you are familiar or expert in, you can do this on the Infra team in casual through mission-critical rolls that don't have the stress associated with $dayjob. * If you care about how oVirt infrastructure is built and maintained, being a maintainer gives you full voting rights and the keys to do things that matter to you. * Finally, you might want to influence the overall direction of oVirt from a seat on the Board. That requires being active in contributing to more than one area of the project, and Infra could be one of them. About time commitment, ultimately, time will tell. Also, if we're good at our jobs, we invest time up front to save time in the future. Based on my experience and guesses, I'd say: * 1 hour a week for the regular meeting * 30+ to 90+ minutes a week to read and respond to email * 0+ hours per week to tend to whatever maintenance you have volunteered for. * 0+ hours per week to work on new Infra projects/efforts ** Actual projects may take from 2 to 16 hours for an individual effort; if it's more than that, we should be looking at splitting up the work or simplifying the project. * 1+ hour per month to mentor new and existing Infra members I wouldn't expect every person to have a fixed schedule of activities beyond the meetings - some of you will want that, some won't. Still, being a maintainer means doing things. Helping with planned and unplanned service outages, upgrades, new services, mentoring, etc. We don't want to burn people out, but we do expect people to be doing things over the course of time. - - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBMaC2ZIOBq0ODEERAsuQAKCYZdNkDO/tLf6aBq5fYOqqV0X2oACfaIUo EYwxT9DHAZWdFSDLZ1jG8Mc= =PMPC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade@redhat.com> To: "infra" <infra@ovirt.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:57:22 AM Subject: Re: Maintainers list
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On 07/16/2012 12:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote:
Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an infra maintainer?
About meaning:
* http://www.ovirt.org/governance/becoming-a-maintainer/
* The Infra team has a growing pool of resources that maintainers get to use to learn new skills and hone existing skills.
* If you want to learn professional-level sysadmin practices, and possibly mentor others in the practices you are familiar or expert in, you can do this on the Infra team in casual through mission-critical rolls that don't have the stress associated with $dayjob.
* If you care about how oVirt infrastructure is built and maintained, being a maintainer gives you full voting rights and the keys to do things that matter to you.
* Finally, you might want to influence the overall direction of oVirt from a seat on the Board. That requires being active in contributing to more than one area of the project, and Infra could be one of them.
About time commitment, ultimately, time will tell. Also, if we're good at our jobs, we invest time up front to save time in the future. Based on my experience and guesses, I'd say:
* 1 hour a week for the regular meeting * 30+ to 90+ minutes a week to read and respond to email * 0+ hours per week to tend to whatever maintenance you have volunteered for. * 0+ hours per week to work on new Infra projects/efforts ** Actual projects may take from 2 to 16 hours for an individual effort; if it's more than that, we should be looking at splitting up the work or simplifying the project. * 1+ hour per month to mentor new and existing Infra members
I wouldn't expect every person to have a fixed schedule of activities beyond the meetings - some of you will want that, some won't.
Still, being a maintainer means doing things. Helping with planned and unplanned service outages, upgrades, new services, mentoring, etc. We don't want to burn people out, but we do expect people to be doing things over the course of time.
I can continue to maintain the jenkins.ovirt.org instance and its slaves: - update master version + plugins from time to time - handle new job requests - fix infra errors that arise from time to time - offer new ideas and upgrades to the Jenkins infra. though, I'd love to see more people involved with Jenkins maintenance, as there is a lot of infra and support work to be done there. Eyal Edri.
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On 07/16/2012 09:27 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer.
We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :)
I can continue taking care of current EC2 instances till we get rid of them and upstream gerrit, but i don't expect i will have the time for ongoing maint
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 11:27 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project.
You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not:
* Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade
In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer.
We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :)
I'll take on a limited role here. I'll attend the meetings and give feedback, as well as help if/when problems come up. I've also functioned (at times) as a backup for Ofer in the Release Manager role, and will continue with that. I'm unlikely to have time to be very involved in creating new infrastructure or deploying anything new though. Mike
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