Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works.
I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing? Thanks Robert
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki
Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing?
I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way instead of "everything in www/". The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue. I think there are two responses to that argument: * oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of geeky and be safe. * The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the website, which we will fix. Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. - - Karsten [1] I'm one of those who often shorthands e.g. 'wiki.ovirt.org' to 'wiki.o.o' in IRC, email, etc. - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQAEiO2ZIOBq0ODEERApoxAJ43rIZ18mwY4EVRSeYORod1hHar/ACeMCFj RXB8zao5CZkFBAfAs0c9cjw= =iwKh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/13/2012 12:10 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki
Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing? I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way instead of "everything in www/".
The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue.
I think there are two responses to that argument:
* oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of geeky and be safe.
* The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the website, which we will fix.
Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. Change is complete. The www.ovirt.org/wiki now redirects to wiki.ovirt.org/ . Enjoy the change.
Thanks Robert
- - Karsten
[1] I'm one of those who often shorthands e.g. 'wiki.ovirt.org' to 'wiki.o.o' in IRC, email, etc.
- -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:43:03PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/13/2012 12:10 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki
Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing? I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way instead of "everything in www/".
The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue.
I think there are two responses to that argument:
* oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of geeky and be safe.
* The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the website, which we will fix.
Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. Change is complete. The www.ovirt.org/wiki now redirects to wiki.ovirt.org/ . Enjoy the change. I fully agree with this and actually typed wiki.ovirt.org many times.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki
Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing?
It occurs to me that we should drop a note to arch@ with this information and reasoning. Would you like to do that? - - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQAxz22ZIOBq0ODEERAg4QAJ9TDqYyzwixC1OQMAgXq6u9Dcn+4ACfS/xq faeOLr4EVSH5oSV5KwywOHg= =fpEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden -
Karsten 'quaid' Wade -
Robert Middleswarth